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I'm hearing Meath are Drawn to play the winner of Dublin Vs Wicklow on Thursday the 15th July unless the 2020 Minors beat Derry this Saturday

ABD09 (Meath) - Posts: 68 - 07/07/2021 11:24:35    2357300

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Replying To ABD09:  "I'm hearing Meath are Drawn to play the winner of Dublin Vs Wicklow on Thursday the 15th July unless the 2020 Minors beat Derry this Saturday"
Think they play the winners of it anyway on the 15th of May. I think if we play the Dubs it's at home. Let's be honest it's an enormous uphill battle. No Cathal Hickey or Matt Costello is huge, they'd be the best two players. No Cian McBride either is a huge void from minor. And probably none of the 2020 minors will be playing. I was hoping we could maybe get an easier semi-final draw and then for a final Hickey and Costello would be done with the seniors. I still think this team has some good players who could easily be senior like Sean Brennan, James O'Hare, Harry O'Higgins, Luke Kelly, Oisin McCloskey, Luke Mitchell. But the disjointed build-up and the players away with the minors and 20's would make it a huge upset to beat Dublin, and I would expect a repeat of last years result probably

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1470 - 07/07/2021 13:45:58    2357367

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Think they play the winners of it anyway on the 15th of May. I think if we play the Dubs it's at home. Let's be honest it's an enormous uphill battle. No Cathal Hickey or Matt Costello is huge, they'd be the best two players. No Cian McBride either is a huge void from minor. And probably none of the 2020 minors will be playing. I was hoping we could maybe get an easier semi-final draw and then for a final Hickey and Costello would be done with the seniors. I still think this team has some good players who could easily be senior like Sean Brennan, James O'Hare, Harry O'Higgins, Luke Kelly, Oisin McCloskey, Luke Mitchell. But the disjointed build-up and the players away with the minors and 20's would make it a huge upset to beat Dublin, and I would expect a repeat of last years result probably"
We haven't won at this grade under 20/21 since 2001. And only one final appearance since in 2014. Dublin have us hammered at this grade level the last few years. We need to start turning these minor leinster wins into under 20s leinster minor wins.

Actually Kelly and Callaghan have better CVs than Flynn. Callaghan wasn't sucessful with three underage teams but he did manage Meath minors, under 20s and under 21s beforehand. Kelly was coach with Meath seniors in 2009 2010 when they won leinster and reached All Ireland semi final and in 2014 when they reached leinster final. He also managed leinster in Railway Cup. And Managed Navan to senior County title and coached Dunboyne to senior club title recently. Duos work at underage, not at senior. Both Tyrone and Clare hurlers had successful underage teams with Duos as managers recently. I think keeping kelly/Callaghan next year wouldn't be the worst thing, until Mccarthy takes over I think in 2023. I think that was the plan.

Kingkeegan (UK) - Posts: 55 - 07/07/2021 17:37:35    2357468

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Luke Mitchell and Oisin McCluskey are two players I could see called up to the seniors next year.

Kingkeegan (UK) - Posts: 55 - 07/07/2021 20:03:37    2357514

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What players are involved with the panel? Any idea of a likely starting 15? Will any of the minors from today join up with the 20s?

Dublin only narrowly overcame Wicklow in the last round so looking forward to this.

I'm sure it has been very difficult for all involved over the last couple of months with all the uncertainty so hopefully all the hard work behind the scenes will pay off.

DMman (Meath) - Posts: 17 - 10/07/2021 22:55:13    2358443

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Replying To DMman:  "What players are involved with the panel? Any idea of a likely starting 15? Will any of the minors from today join up with the 20s?

Dublin only narrowly overcame Wicklow in the last round so looking forward to this.

I'm sure it has been very difficult for all involved over the last couple of months with all the uncertainty so hopefully all the hard work behind the scenes will pay off."
Panel was cut by 13/14 when new boys came in from 40 down to 26/27

royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 11/07/2021 10:53:48    2358500

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Was at this fixture last year in Parnell park when we were well beat, didn't trouble the Dubs at all that evening. What was most disappointing was the absence of any sort of strategy. There is a serious problem bringing minors up to U20 and beyond. Last years team was composed of players that had beaten the Dubs on several occasions at underage. The same management are back in place after the Flynn fiasco so while I wish them the best, we're goin to need all the luck that's going and more to get a result.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 13/07/2021 13:35:02    2359386

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Replying To moylagh:  "Was at this fixture last year in Parnell park when we were well beat, didn't trouble the Dubs at all that evening. What was most disappointing was the absence of any sort of strategy. There is a serious problem bringing minors up to U20 and beyond. Last years team was composed of players that had beaten the Dubs on several occasions at underage. The same management are back in place after the Flynn fiasco so while I wish them the best, we're goin to need all the luck that's going and more to get a result."
It's not the same management team as last year

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1470 - 13/07/2021 21:35:53    2359569

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "It's not the same management team as last year"
Who was the management last year

Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 13/07/2021 21:53:14    2359579

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Replying To Borderroyal:  "Who was the management last year"
Was it your man from Dunboyne Ger Robinson?

Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 359 - 14/07/2021 15:20:47    2359831

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Replying To Selwyn:  "Was it your man from Dunboyne Ger Robinson?"
Ger Robinson in 2020. Barry Callaghan in the roll before him for a couple of year and Brian Farrell before that. None had much success although Farrell has done well with Ratoath.

AnFearBan1234 (Meath) - Posts: 110 - 14/07/2021 15:47:07    2359841

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Best of luck to joint Managers Barry Callaghan and Sean Kelly this evening, they have done a fantastic job in the last month to prepare these lads, with 14 clubs represented in the starting 15 they have certainly shown no favoritism to any particular club
Meath (U20 FC v Dublin) -
Sean Brennan (Dunderry);
James O'Hare (Rathkenny),
Harry O'Higgins (Drumbaragh),
Conor Farrelly (Walterstown);
Aaron Chinchilla (Simonstown),
Conor Harford (St Vincent's),
Oisin McCloskey (Na Fianna);
Sean Coffey (Ballinabrackey),
Jack Flynn (Ratoath);
Niall Smullen (Clonard),
Niall Finnerty (Skryne),
Luke Kelly (Na Fianna);
Brian O'Hanlon (Navan O'Mahonys),
Pearse Sheridan (Oldcastle),
Diarmuid Moriarty (Curraha).

ABD09 (Meath) - Posts: 68 - 15/07/2021 14:03:15    2360126

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Replying To AnFearBan1234:  "Ger Robinson in 2020. Barry Callaghan in the roll before him for a couple of year and Brian Farrell before that. None had much success although Farrell has done well with Ratoath."
In all fairness Davy Bryne got Ratoath to the pinnacle of Meath football, they were very poor last year and blessed to win it, given the players available and performances last year i don't think the term "done well" is applicable

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 15/07/2021 14:44:42    2360136

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Replying To Analyst:  "In all fairness Davy Bryne got Ratoath to the pinnacle of Meath football, they were very poor last year and blessed to win it, given the players available and performances last year i don't think the term "done well" is applicable"
It must be the first time in the history of the Keegan cup that a "very poor " team won it
What are you saying about the rest of the teams in meath , they must be cat altogether

You need to get over the Davy Byrne thing and move on
It's not healthy for you

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 15/07/2021 17:42:46    2360186

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Better side lost I think, more organised and better trained side won. Meath were on top for long spells and poor shooting and no defensive shape ultimately cost them.

Jack Flynn has huge potential, dominated at times, some consistent coaching to help his decision making and he could be a super player.

Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 15/07/2021 22:13:06    2360261

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While disappointed with result, I saw huge positives tonight. Especially in determination and attentude of this Meath team that outfought and outworked Dublin for long periods. O'Hare at corner back was absolutely outstanding as were most of the backline and Flynn a powerhouse at midfield. Disappointed with return of full forward line and some of the shooting left alot to be desired but after a really unsettled campaign I felt many showed well.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 515 - 15/07/2021 22:14:15    2360263

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "It must be the first time in the history of the Keegan cup that a "very poor " team won it
What are you saying about the rest of the teams in meath , they must be cat altogether

You need to get over the Davy Byrne thing and move on
It's not healthy for you"
You must have your head stick.in sand, a lot of poor sides have won Keegan particularly in last 10 years or so, i don't know or have never even met Davy Byrne by the way. Ratoath team in 2019 were excellent and played great football. It was Byrne and his management team that led them to this, that can never be denied

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 15/07/2021 23:24:35    2360276

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Replying To Thejoeshow:  "Better side lost I think, more organised and better trained side won. Meath were on top for long spells and poor shooting and no defensive shape ultimately cost them.

Jack Flynn has huge potential, dominated at times, some consistent coaching to help his decision making and he could be a super player."
I agree more organised and better coached side won tonight and i don't mean that that in a disparaging way to the meath management rather that this Dublin team obviously have had more continuity and the management more time with the players. If the meath management had got another few weeks with the players i think they'd have beaten Dublin.

Or alternatively if the previous manager had shown some belief in this group of players and not abandoned them over the availability of 2 players they would have had that continuity and would have been better placed to Beat Dublin last night.

Well done to players and current management for a real gutsy performance under different circumstances.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 872 - 16/07/2021 07:53:44    2360296

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Replying To Thejoeshow:  "Better side lost I think, more organised and better trained side won. Meath were on top for long spells and poor shooting and no defensive shape ultimately cost them.

Jack Flynn has huge potential, dominated at times, some consistent coaching to help his decision making and he could be a super player."
Well done to Sean Kelly and Barry Callaghan for getting this team prepared at such short notice. Winning Leinster would have been a big ask with all that went on with management. A few players kicking on to strengthen the senior panel is now the priority.

kingofclubs (Meath) - Posts: 321 - 16/07/2021 09:26:11    2360302

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Replying To winatallcost:  "While disappointed with result, I saw huge positives tonight. Especially in determination and attentude of this Meath team that outfought and outworked Dublin for long periods. O'Hare at corner back was absolutely outstanding as were most of the backline and Flynn a powerhouse at midfield. Disappointed with return of full forward line and some of the shooting left alot to be desired but after a really unsettled campaign I felt many showed well."
Irrespective of Result & no matter at what stage we bowed out of this Competition, without a doubt the Circus that was created around this group was a disgrace. yet again, we are looking at possibly a missed opportunity. How many have we allowed to slip through or fingers over the last 20 years due to us shooting ourselves in the foot. Please, can we stop the bullsh*t around Resources & Funding...once & for all...until we get our house in order. Can we at least promise on this site to each other that we wont talk about the inequalities UNTIL...we are doing most things correctly.
I have great sympathy for ALL involved last night,
Offaly showing how things can change btw....and it will be a real wake up call I hope to us , if their u20 team manage to land this football leinster title

Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 16/07/2021 09:48:55    2360307

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