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Mckenna Cup 2022

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Replying To evano11:  "What are the Ulster Council thinking charging €24.50 a ticket for the Armagh match!!!"
Was it not €12? Same as it's €12 for the game tomorrow night...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2398 - 10/01/2022 07:55:44    2394319

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Replying To fredflint:  "That's the problem. Fellas like you excuse this. You think in mayo, dublin, kerry this would accepted. No in cavan we know better, blame the manager or the clubs or lack of amalgamations but never blame the rotten attitude of some players around the county. My opinion, they probably not good enough or not brave enough to try and step up to the level in case they'd be shown up. Better to be the big fish in the small pond. So no point wasting breath on them."
A truly disgraceful comment about hard working players.

It's a shame we have such negativity on this forum, all some lads want to do is moan and give out.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 10/01/2022 10:53:46    2394348

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The response to my criticism of someone excusing 6/7 of the players from our county champions is the following..

- Ask me why i didnt play county football (why is this relevant and who said i did or didnt)
- Ask me why i begrudge Ramor players celebrating their win (I didnt)
- And the most negative person on these forums calls me negative.

The problem in Cavan is that many of our players dont want to put in the work to get the rewards. That is their right and it is my right to call it out for what it is. The fellas that do commit and do so year after year are the lads I want to talk about, not all the supposed great players that we have sitting at home laughing at the lads that bust their *****.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 10/01/2022 14:33:26    2394406

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Replying To fredflint:  "The response to my criticism of someone excusing 6/7 of the players from our county champions is the following..

- Ask me why i didnt play county football (why is this relevant and who said i did or didnt)
- Ask me why i begrudge Ramor players celebrating their win (I didnt)
- And the most negative person on these forums calls me negative.

The problem in Cavan is that many of our players dont want to put in the work to get the rewards. That is their right and it is my right to call it out for what it is. The fellas that do commit and do so year after year are the lads I want to talk about, not all the supposed great players that we have sitting at home laughing at the lads that bust their *****."
Think you're being incredibly harsh. Inter county football is not a small investment, and players need to put in an unreal amount of time to it. It just doesn't suit some players, be it for work, study, or personal/family reasons. It is a pro sport in all but name in the time it takes up, and it just doesn't suit all. Every county has players asked in who can't commit, and it's something we just have to deal with, with the nature of the sport and what is required.

It's not about not wanting to put the work in. County teams work incredibly hard. in fact, I'd rather they were up front about not being able to commit than try and half **** it. You seemingly have no clue the work that goes into a county team, it is extremely tough going. Give your head a wobble

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2398 - 10/01/2022 15:17:36    2394415

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Think you're being incredibly harsh. Inter county football is not a small investment, and players need to put in an unreal amount of time to it. It just doesn't suit some players, be it for work, study, or personal/family reasons. It is a pro sport in all but name in the time it takes up, and it just doesn't suit all. Every county has players asked in who can't commit, and it's something we just have to deal with, with the nature of the sport and what is required.

It's not about not wanting to put the work in. County teams work incredibly hard. in fact, I'd rather they were up front about not being able to commit than try and half **** it. You seemingly have no clue the work that goes into a county team, it is extremely tough going. Give your head a wobble"
I have plenty idea what goes into county football. It is also a great honour to represent your county, especially a county like ours, which you seemingly dont seem to accept? My main point, stop talking about people who don't want to play for Cavan, forget about them.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 10/01/2022 15:54:08    2394422

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Cavan don't seem to have a plan B if Gearoid Mckiernan is bottled up. It's only McKenna cup but that's where forwards have to start showing their worth

Need others to perform tomorrow. The Reilly brothers from Butlersbridge good forwards who might get a chance

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 10/01/2022 16:40:49    2394434

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Replying To fredflint:  "The response to my criticism of someone excusing 6/7 of the players from our county champions is the following..

- Ask me why i didnt play county football (why is this relevant and who said i did or didnt)
- Ask me why i begrudge Ramor players celebrating their win (I didnt)
- And the most negative person on these forums calls me negative.

The problem in Cavan is that many of our players dont want to put in the work to get the rewards. That is their right and it is my right to call it out for what it is. The fellas that do commit and do so year after year are the lads I want to talk about, not all the supposed great players that we have sitting at home laughing at the lads that bust their *****."
Another very disappointing comment. You have claimed, without a shred of evidence, that lads sit at home laughing at others who work hard. A shocking comment.

Enough of your negativity. Enough.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 10/01/2022 17:32:18    2394444

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Another very disappointing comment. You have claimed, without a shred of evidence, that lads sit at home laughing at others who work hard. A shocking comment.

Enough of your negativity. Enough."
Sorry if you are disappointed, the man called Cavan Shambles, a real Mr positive.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 10/01/2022 20:52:51    2394465

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he response to my criticism of someone excusing 6/7 of the players from our county champions is the following..

- Ask me why i didnt play county football (why is this relevant and who said i did or didnt)
- Ask me why i begrudge Ramor players celebrating their win (I didnt)
- And the most negative person on these forums calls me negative.

The problem in Cavan is that many of our players dont want to put in the work to get the rewards. That is their right and it is my right to call it out for what it is. The fellas that do commit and do so year after year are the lads I want to talk about, not all the supposed great players that we have sitting at home laughing at the lads that bust their *****.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1401

Tomsmith here from Cavan Gaels... Cavan biggest and best Club in the past 20 years....

Fredfling you probally dont understand what it is like to be involved in abig Club ( like the Gaels). So some players playing for big Clubs agin like the Gaels its virtually like playing County football all year round. If you look at teh Gaels these players were at the top of County football for say 20 years that is some goping.

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3861 - 11/01/2022 09:05:33    2394484

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As we embark on potentially another unforgettable night in the park, it is important to take our own support into account. These boys have a big year ahead of them, looking to right a lot of wrongs from last year. It's important that we come out in our numbers tonight and ALL throughout the Division 4 campaign to drive the boys on. Tyrone only arrived home yesterday from their BIG holiday so there is no excuses tonight for a big performance. I want to wish Mickey and the players the very best of luck and hopefully we'll be back on here after our first win of the year against the ALL IRELAND champions, as the saying Mickey refers to so much goes ' If you do not sow in the spring, you will not reap in the autumn'

TheLordofcavanGaa (Cavan) - Posts: 18 - 11/01/2022 18:14:01    2394560

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Really good first half here. 1-9 to 0-2. Looks like Tyrone are still on holiday, but to be fair, you still need to play who's in front of you and we're doing that. There's a few usuals on there, but that's it for them. They've hit a lot of wides, but we've taken some lovely scores. Hit some wides too, but these are the games for ironing that stuff out. With a more regular looking team, we look quite good so far. Hope we continue this into the 2nd half!

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2398 - 11/01/2022 21:06:18    2394570

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Cavan done very well, but hard to know how good a performance it was, as Tyrone were terrible with no intensity, And still looked to be on holiday.
Patrick Lynch kicked some lovely scores

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 11/01/2022 21:56:55    2394575

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Cavan done very well, but hard to know how good a performance it was, as Tyrone were terrible with no intensity, And still looked to be on holiday.
Patrick Lynch kicked some lovely scores"
Great to get so many scores from play but they won't be as easy to come by the next day out… Tyrone were obviously still on the beach….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1940 - 12/01/2022 07:36:47    2394576

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it is not often that Cavan beat the current all-Ireland champions and certainly never by 15 points so that is something to celebrate but of course there are a few asterisks. Tyrone just back from holiday probably no training done reduced to 14 then 13. Cavan again were not clinical in front of goal and should have scored a couple more goals. really need to work on this aspect of our game. Cavan won most kickouts and these were mostly Tyrone's. James Smith had a great game there . Chris Conway also good in this regard, Gmac didnt need to venture back to help out so could do his stuff in the forwards. lots and lots of positives for Cavan here but make no mistake the teal Tyrone never stood up.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 12/01/2022 08:10:16    2394578

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Ok so Tyrone were poor but in my lifetime we have never given them a beating like that at any grade. Few things that stood out for me. One was the intent and intensity, James Smith, Gearoid, Gerry Smith and a few others ran at Tyrone and broke tackles, especially in the first half and Tyrone couldnt deal with it. Two was we got some newish players knocking over some scores - Cormac Reilly and Patrick Lynch, it wasnt all Gearoid although he was excellent again. Three great to see some of our experience players getting on the field again like Moynagh and Niall Murray. Hopefully it gives us an extra game which will be a great warm up for the league and we can hit that with some momentum.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 12/01/2022 08:58:34    2394581

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Fantastic performance by Cavan last night. Yea, Tyrone only back from holidays and missing a a lot, but as the old saying goes, you can only beat what's in front of you. I still think Tyrone thought they could come and be competitive, but Cavan were superb from start to finish and the score line could've been higher. Cavan brought intensity to the game, they transitioned the ball from defence to attack very quickly and if they can do this in the National League, I have no doubt that we'll get promoted. There was great movement in the forward line, they were quick, out in front, they looped around and kicked some great scores. A score line of 1-17 to 0-05 against the reigning All-Ireland Champions is very encouraging and it's great to see some of the younger lads getting game time, I was very impressed with the new comers to the squad, onwards and upwards.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 12/01/2022 09:49:02    2394584

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Cavan done very well, but hard to know how good a performance it was, as Tyrone were terrible with no intensity, And still looked to be on holiday.
Patrick Lynch kicked some lovely scores"
Great to get so many scores from play but they won't be as easy to come by the next day out… Tyrone were obviously still on the beach….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1940 - 12/01/2022 10:06:36    2394587

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Have to be happy with that.
I dont think anyone will get carried away as Tyrone have spent most of the week partying in Florida but even so its good to give the all ireland champs a beatdown on their 1st day back

Im enthused by the fact most of cavans big guns seem to be back and ready to take the league seriously, if we show the right commitment and respect to the league we should be getting through it with 100% record and a cup.

The main plus for me was seeing more scorers get in on the act, cant be too dependent on Gearoid.

Some of the guys, Jason, Oisin Kiernan, James smith, gearoid in particular have turned up in terrific shape for the season which is great to see. Fair play to them

HuddHastings (Longford) - Posts: 144 - 12/01/2022 10:17:15    2394588

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A good win last night. Yeah, Tyrone didn't show up but we've met teams in that boat before and struggled to get past them. We beat what was in front of us and beat them well.

I do agree it would be nice to get another game. If Tyrone beat Armagh or Fermanagh beat Derry, it looks like we'll make a semi final. If not, I'm sure there'll be a challenge arranged. The team is coming together quite nicely and hopefully we can hit the ground running against Leitrim. We can't afford an early hiccup in the league.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 12/01/2022 11:27:43    2394606

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Good win last night. Nothing to get carried away with as Tyrones heads were still in Florida. But usually was the type of game we'd find hard, and we did what we needed to. Still lots to work on, we hit a lot of wides, and we tried a few more things. It's what you want at this time of year, a good performance, with enough to bring back to the training field to develop more.

It was also good to see so many 1st team players out there. We usually don't have them at this time of year, and they look raring to go. Looks like they want to give Div 4 a proper rattle, and we can go back to forgetting we were ever there when we get out of it. Which we shouldn't have been. A good league campaign will lead nicely into Antrim and then we can see from there sure.

James Smith is the real deal. We missed him last year, he is so good on the ball and gives us something different, and we look more dynamic with him. Oisin Brady, Kiernan, McLoughlin were all great, don't need to say anything about what GMac brings, Conroy good too, and good to see Cormac O'Reilly and Paddy Lynch scores some nice points from play. Paddy was especially good, and even had an outrageous point chalked off for a wide when it was over all day long. We need strong scoring forwards, and hopefully we're finding them. Nothing is ever won or sorted out in January, but continuing on with a good league run could do wonders for these lads. They look up for it at least which is all we can ask for right now

Ps, also good to see Liam Brady being given some minutes...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2398 - 12/01/2022 15:10:31    2394640

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