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Replying To seanorinn:  "Some nonsense by inaroundthehouse as usual. If you come in the top 2 you deserve and are good enough for Div 1. Thats the whole idea of a league. Even if we went up and came down again, it is better for the players and GAA community in Cavan as a whole to be playing the best teams, inviting the dubs to town getting a win in Castlebar. Only a fool would turn the opportunity down.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 945 - 20/03/2018 13:53:43 2086236

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I agree with you fredflint you can only improve by playing the top division.
Cavan V Tip next Sunday at 3PM in Breifni Park"
Tipperary should play down first, it puts us at a disadvantage if they don't play down before us.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 838 - 20/03/2018 14:32:34    2086250

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Replying To fredflint:  "Some nonsense by inaroundthehouse as usual. If you come in the top 2 you deserve and are good enough for Div 1. Thats the whole idea of a league. Even if we went up and came down again, it is better for the players and GAA community in Cavan as a whole to be playing the best teams, inviting the dubs to town getting a win in Castlebar. Only a fool would turn the opportunity down."
You hit the nail on the head.... IF you come in the top 2.
My opinion is at the moment we are NOT good enough for Div 1.
That was proved last Sunday and will be confirmed against Tipp.
Sad but unfortunately true .

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 20/03/2018 14:48:21    2086258

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Makes sense to play the fixtures as planned. We need to beat Tipp to get promoted. If we cannot beat them there is no point in getting promoted to Div 1.

Breffniman1 (Cavan) - Posts: 25 - 20/03/2018 15:37:58    2086282

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Replying To blueman1903:  "Tipperary should play down first, it puts us at a disadvantage if they don't play down before us."
Tipperary should play down first, it puts us at a disadvantage if they don't play down before us.
blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 506 - 20/03/2018 14:32:34 20862

Well thats the CCCC for you. We have to make sure we win it's that simple.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/03/2018 15:42:07    2086286

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It's not right but I don't think it'll make a huge difference.

If Tipp beat us they go up. If we win we go up.

If it's a draw, Tipp will know that a win against down puts them up.

If we can't win at home with what's at stake then I don't think we can have any complaints about them getting that advantage. We've known exactly what we need to do since the win against down. You could argue that the fixtures have favoured us in that regard.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4702 - 20/03/2018 16:31:00    2086311

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I think It's sensible to go ahead with the round 7 fixtures this weekend. If ourselves and Roscommon win then the league final can go ahead as planned. Of course if we both lose then the Tipp v Down resheduled match may have significence for most of the teams in the division.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5496 - 20/03/2018 17:56:58    2086342

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Am sure Tipperary are absolutely delighted to be arriving to Breifne next Sunday nice and rested and not having to make another trip North after a tough game against Down in Newry.

Joebe (Cavan) - Posts: 76 - 20/03/2018 19:59:26    2086390

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Replying To Joebe:  "Am sure Tipperary are absolutely delighted to be arriving to Breifne next Sunday nice and rested and not having to make another trip North after a tough game against Down in Newry."
They also might be slightly rusty.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 20/03/2018 20:19:55    2086403

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Ild be shocked if ye did not beat them to be honest.
There good in semple, not so good outside it.
If ye stop them scoring goals I cant see Cavan losing."
Out of curiosity whats tipp are good in semple and not so good out of there based on? since 2016 we lost to longford away in the league (2016), kerry away munster final (2016), cork away championship (2017). Thats not the worst away record league and championship youll see, weve lost more games in semple in that time.

Anyway that really has nothing to do with it, should be a great game sunday and a real 50/50 played as a championship match

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 20/03/2018 21:43:04    2086449

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Replying To cavanman47:  "It's not right but I don't think it'll make a huge difference.

If Tipp beat us they go up. If we win we go up.

If it's a draw, Tipp will know that a win against down puts them up.

If we can't win at home with what's at stake then I don't think we can have any complaints about them getting that advantage. We've known exactly what we need to do since the win against down. You could argue that the fixtures have favoured us in that regard."
t's not right but I don't think it'll make a huge difference.

If Tipp beat us they go up. If we win we go up.

If it's a draw, Tipp will know that a win against down puts them up.

If we can't win at home with what's at stake then I don't think we can have any complaints about them getting that advantage. We've known exactly what we need to do since the win against down. You could argue that the fixtures have favoured us in that regard.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 2896 - 20/03/2018 16:31:00 2086311

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Information not correct if Tipp beat Cavan they will have 9 points if Cork beat Roscommon they will have 9 points as well, so if Tip beat Down they are promoted and Roscommon as well on the head to head with Cavan it's that simple so Cavan have to get minimum of one point in the hope that Cork beat Roscommon and Down can do us a favor but if Cavan lose I feel head to head not come into play but score difference and Cavan have a superior score difference than Roscommon and as it stands an inferior score difference to Tip. So to solve all problem beat Tip and let the rest worry about them self's.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/03/2018 22:59:28    2086476

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Replying To tipp11:  "Out of curiosity whats tipp are good in semple and not so good out of there based on? since 2016 we lost to longford away in the league (2016), kerry away munster final (2016), cork away championship (2017). Thats not the worst away record league and championship youll see, weve lost more games in semple in that time.

Anyway that really has nothing to do with it, should be a great game sunday and a real 50/50 played as a championship match"
Yes . us Cavan folk know how good you are on the road, sure disn't yis knock us out of the championship last year. As you say a 50/50 game. The goals seem to have dried up for us recently. We need to start scoring goals again. A few players need to get the head. up

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5496 - 20/03/2018 23:00:19    2086477

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Replying To seanorinn:  "t's not right but I don't think it'll make a huge difference.

If Tipp beat us they go up. If we win we go up.

If it's a draw, Tipp will know that a win against down puts them up.

If we can't win at home with what's at stake then I don't think we can have any complaints about them getting that advantage. We've known exactly what we need to do since the win against down. You could argue that the fixtures have favoured us in that regard.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 2896 - 20/03/2018 16:31:00 2086311

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Information not correct if Tipp beat Cavan they will have 9 points if Cork beat Roscommon they will have 9 points as well, so if Tip beat Down they are promoted and Roscommon as well on the head to head with Cavan it's that simple so Cavan have to get minimum of one point in the hope that Cork beat Roscommon and Down can do us a favor but if Cavan lose I feel head to head not come into play but score difference and Cavan have a superior score difference than Roscommon and as it stands an inferior score difference to Tip. So to solve all problem beat Tip and let the rest worry about them self's."
What information is not correct!?

If we win we go up.

If Tipp win they go up (unless down hammer them and cork beat roscommon)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4702 - 21/03/2018 05:38:03    2086502

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Replying To s goldrick:  "Yes . us Cavan folk know how good you are on the road, sure disn't yis knock us out of the championship last year. As you say a 50/50 game. The goals seem to have dried up for us recently. We need to start scoring goals again. A few players need to get the head. up"
Yes we did in a game we both saw how good and bad each other could be, 1st half we were really poor and ye were brilliant and kicked some brilliant scores, 2nd half the complete opposite. Goals haven't been a problem for us to come by this year but this will be a real test in that regard, Cavan have only conceded two so it would seem are well drilled and organised in preventing goals. It's great to be looking forward to what's virtually a championship match in March!

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 21/03/2018 07:10:52    2086505

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Sunday was a small blip, I think we will learn a few lessons from this defeat - this Cavan Team is heading up to Division One and I have no doubt with the football we are playing at the moment, we will be competitive. Do not be surprised if Cork beat Roscommon on Sunday.

I'm also quietly confident of causing an upset in the Championship and beating Donegal, however, its very hard to see past Tyrone in a Ulster Final, they are hitting their peak, totally demolished Mayo on Sunday.

All in all, Mattie's 2nd full season in charge and it looks positive, he's putting his own print on this team, remaining in Division 2 wouldnt be a bad thing, but I'm confident of taking Tipperary on Sunday.

Future is blue....the black death is gone forever...

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 489 - 21/03/2018 15:05:58    2086642

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Sunday was a small blip, I think we will learn a few lessons from this defeat - this Cavan Team is heading up to Division One and I have no doubt with the football we are playing at the moment, we will be competitive. Do not be surprised if Cork beat Roscommon on Sunday.

I'm also quietly confident of causing an upset in the Championship and beating Donegal, however, its very hard to see past Tyrone in a Ulster Final, they are hitting their peak, totally demolished Mayo on Sunday.

All in all, Mattie's 2nd full season in charge and it looks positive, he's putting his own print on this team, remaining in Division 2 wouldnt be a bad thing, but I'm confident of taking Tipperary on Sunday.

Future is blue....the black death is gone forever..."
We had the Black Death for 5 long years. Great to see players being allowed to express themselves by a manager who seems to know what he's doing even though he only in his 2nd year.
I'm not convinced we are good enough for Div 1 yet but we are playing better more attractive football.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 21/03/2018 17:40:21    2086713

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The Black Death entered Cavan football the year after Eamon Coleman and didn't leave until Terry took over, dark ,barren years flirting with Division 4 and out of championship by late June, pride is back!!!

ramor101 (Cavan) - Posts: 289 - 21/03/2018 20:33:20    2086770

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "We had the Black Death for 5 long years. Great to see players being allowed to express themselves by a manager who seems to know what he's doing even though he only in his 2nd year.
I'm not convinced we are good enough for Div 1 yet but we are playing better more attractive football."
Give it a rest and stop whinging about TH, as someone said on this forum anyone who was happy with TH is also now happy for Matt and the team, you are showing yourself to be very small minded and petty

breffni47 (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 22/03/2018 10:16:51    2086876

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Replying To breffni47:  "Give it a rest and stop whinging about TH, as someone said on this forum anyone who was happy with TH is also now happy for Matt and the team, you are showing yourself to be very small minded and petty"
C'mon breffni47, it's a serious condition that he has to deal with every day of his life. He needs to get his fix every couple of pages.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 289 - 22/03/2018 10:40:43    2086887

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Replying To ramor101:  "The Black Death entered Cavan football the year after Eamon Coleman and didn't leave until Terry took over, dark ,barren years flirting with Division 4 and out of championship by late June, pride is back!!!"
Wrong...the Black Death was created by Terry...he ruined some good footballers with his tactics, and moreso, the attendances in Breffni Park were at a record low during his tenure.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 489 - 22/03/2018 10:54:58    2086896

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Replying To Skelling:  "C'mon breffni47, it's a serious condition that he has to deal with every day of his life. He needs to get his fix every couple of pages."
Give Mattie 5 years and see what we win and where he leaves us then.
We had posters here calling for his head at the start of the league campaign.
He's got us playing football. It's no big crime if we don't get promotion.
We are well capable of beating Donegal, a team that could end up in Div 2 next year .That would be a bigger boost for Cavan football than winning promotion and coming straight back down next year.
The Black Death days of slow laboured lateral defensive tripe are well and truly over!

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 22/03/2018 11:24:01    2086903

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