whats the story with these people?.......they have access to the playing field and many other no go areas for real gaa fans and other people who might just like to get some nice pictures of their favourite players or team....................as far as i know they dont pay in to a game either but they make money off the photos they take as does the publishers of the newspapers, magazines etc etc they supply their pictures to.......................what does the newspaper publishers put back into the gaa i ask ?....do they sponsor any local or county tems that i dont know about.......do they sponsor any competitions or put any money back into the sport...........do the players they photograph get pics for free if they go looking for them or do they have to pay the going rate ?...........why does the gaa allow photograpers and publishers newspapers in particular make money on gaa games when many of the people benefitting don't give a hoot about the games themselves or the gaa for that matter.....a friend of mine who does a bit of amature photography and who isn't affiliated to any journalist union or anything like that was recently stopped from entering the playing field when he tried to get some snaps of his county team for his face book page.........he was asked for his press pass he hadn't one so he was refused admission to the playing field even after the game was over...............he paid in to the game, is a avid supporter of the sport both at club and county level but was point blankly refused the chance to get some nice keep sake memories of a particular game and the players involved.........SO WHAT THE STORY WITH THESE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS BEING ALLOWED ACCESS ALL AREAS TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES AND OTHERS BUT GIVE NOTHING BACK IN RETURN ?

Gammy_Knee (USA) - Posts: 1482 - 21/01/2013 17:50:39    1321396

Liveline stays open open till 3 o clock

bernardmessi (Dublin) - Posts: 182 - 21/01/2013 17:58:39    1321400

I don't know whether to laugh or cry

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 790 - 21/01/2013 18:09:04    1321405

21/01/2013 17:50:39
Gammy_Knee
whats the story with these people?. they have access to the playing field and many other no go areas for real gaa fans and other people who might just like to get some nice pictures of their favourite players or team. as far as i know they dont pay in to a game either but they make money off the photos they take as does the publishers of the newspapers, magazines etc etc they supply their pictures to.
what does the newspaper publishers put back into the gaa i ask ?. do they sponsor any local or county tems that i dont know about. do they sponsor any competitions or put any money back into the sport.
do the players they photograph get pics for free if they go looking for them or do they have to pay the going rate ?.
why does the gaa allow photograpers and publishers newspapers in particular make money on gaa games when many of the people benefitting don't give a hoot about the games themselves or the gaa for that matter.
a friend of mine who does a bit of amature photography and who isn't affiliated to any journalist union or anything like that was recently stopped from entering the playing field when he tried to get some snaps of his county team for his face book page. he was asked for his press pass he hadn't one so he was refused admission to the playing field even after the game was over.
he paid in to the game, is a avid supporter of the sport both at club and county level but was point blankly refused the chance to get some nice keep sake memories of a particular game and the players involved. SO WHAT THE STORY WITH THESE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS BEING ALLOWED ACCESS ALL AREAS TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES AND OTHERS BUT GIVE NOTHING BACK IN RETURN ?
Ive edited your post so that people can actually read it. Gammy do you understand what paragraphs are as your current posting style makes things harder to read
The photographers take all the photo's that are in the newspapers the following day. they give back through that. They do make money for themselves but they provide a service for people who dont go to games.
generally if working for different newspapers the newspaper will pay in for them or they are let in free by the sporting organisation running the game as photos can be excellant marketing devices.
newspapers put plenty back into the GAA. they allow plenty of advertising of the GAA.
Tough sh*t on your friend but if he didnt have a press pass then he shouldnt be on the pitch taking photos. how can a steward know what somebody unaffiliated to a journalist/photography union is like and if they do anything wrong on the pitch the steward who let the unknown photogrpher onto the pitch would be responsible for anything the unknown person did on the pitch

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/01/2013 18:10:33    1321407

They are just ordinary people doing a day's work to make a living like the rest of us. I don't know of too many newspaper photographers who are well off.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 21/01/2013 18:11:34    1321408

bernard you could say that about a lot of the topics being discussed here

Gammy_Knee (USA) - Posts: 1482 - 21/01/2013 18:15:50    1321410

P.s They promote the game by publishing their photographs, added to this the value of their works from a posterity standpoint makes them and their works an added addition to the GAA family

bernardmessi (Dublin) - Posts: 182 - 21/01/2013 18:16:57    1321411

So anyone with a camera should be allowed onto the pitch after the game??

I can see it now...after the All Ireland...stewards trying to hold everyone back....man walks down to gates...."I want to get onto the pitch please ..."where's your accredation?"...."I don't have one but I have this bubble camera"...."in you go sir".....

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1156 - 21/01/2013 20:45:34    1321515

ormondbannerman these professional photographers are making money selling pictures of sportsmen and women who get no payment for what they do......the gaa is an amature organisation and therefore the professionals should not be allowed enter onto the playing pitch imo...........my friend is a very compitent photographer who takes photo as a hobby..... the gaa should look to get people like this involved as im sure there are many others like him who would snap gaa games for free or charge costs only..........your last 2 lines of your previous post is just laughable to be honest........just because someone belongs to a union it doesn't make them a saint or vise versa..........these profesional photographers are like hungry wolves and can be very intimidating to others with a camera.........they think they own that green grassy space that gaelic games are played on........every club and county team in the country should have someone to take pics for the organisaation, the papers the players and their family or anyone else who isn't making money out of them.

Gammy_Knee (USA) - Posts: 1482 - 21/01/2013 21:16:17    1321536

Gammy,
What problem do you have with people making a living? We all have to put food on the table. As well as that newspapers have to get their pictures from somewhere & enthusiastic and all as your friend is he isn't a pro with the proper gear needed to get the quality shots we all enjoy looking at. Besides which can't he take photos from outside the fence? If his gear is good enough he will still get great shots.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 21/01/2013 21:32:12    1321550

I agree with Gammy.. Ah no seriously lads this is the worst yet.

square_ball_69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 826 - 21/01/2013 21:34:06    1321551

21/01/2013 21:16:17
Gammy_Knee
ormondbannerman these professional photographers are making money selling pictures of sportsmen and women who get no payment for what they do.
the gaa is an amature organisation and therefore the professionals should not be allowed enter onto the playing pitch imo. my friend is a very compitent photographer who takes photo as a hobby. the gaa should look to get people like this involved as im sure there are many others like him who would snap gaa games for free or charge costs only. your last 2 lines of your previous post is just laughable to be honest. just because someone belongs to a union it doesn't make them a saint or vise versa. these profesional photographers are like hungry wolves and can be very intimidating to others with a camera.
they think they own that green grassy space that gaelic games are played on. every club and county team in the country should have someone to take pics for the organisaation, the papers the players and their family or anyone else who isn't making money out of them.
Introduce yourself to paragraphs(and spellcheck) instead of using loads of fullstops between sentences. impossible to read half your posts.
Anybody could walk to a ground where a game is about to be played and claim theu are a very competent photographer but unless they are accredited then they have no proof that they are good enough to be pitchside taking photos during games.
The GAA should maybe look at creating a qualification that allows people like your friend pitchside to take photos. but if your friend is let in at a big game than every joe soap with a camera would be able to justify that they should be allowed pitchside to take photos.
But they are part of a union and if they are involved in some incident on the sideline they can be reported and stopped in future. their is a chain of command etc to report them

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/01/2013 21:47:57    1321559

Well first off, fewer and fewer people are actually reading (never mind buying) newspapers - so this is a dying business, GAA will be soon begging for publicity, any publicity. Second get a decent camera and you can get good enough shots from side lines at bigger venues. Thirdly these officials have absolutely no problem at all with people taking snaps using their phones - just look at the crowds milling around at the end of games on TG4. Its amazing what you can do with a phone rather than a camera - its quite funny.
In short, get a decent smartphone with a good camera and say nothing, do what everyone else does and time will see to the press and their photographers.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4968 - 22/01/2013 09:18:41    1321581

I turned up with a camera crew in Croke Park for the All-Ireland and they wouldn't even let me onto the gantry to record the game. They said only RTE could do it for some reason. I heard their cameramen were being paid and everything. I went down to the tunnel after the game then to ask the players a few questions afterwards and the same thing. Just myself and Declan Bogue were left out in the corridor! A disgrace it is. All professionals get to do everything. I think the GAA's amateur code should extend to the media who cover it, that'll really help promote the game!!!

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 22/01/2013 10:20:31    1321597

And while we're at it, what about those guys in the blue uniforms and the hats. The Garda! I mean, do they pay their way in or why do they get to go on the pitch with no questions asked at the end of the game just to stand around the tunnel to see their favourite players. I have tried a bit of the old amateur Gardaism in my time so surely I am as entitled to be on there as them? Sure it was only the other week a mate arrived around to the house in a fancy new car and the first question I asked him was - is that your car?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 22/01/2013 10:23:18    1321599

What a useless thread.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 22/01/2013 10:33:53    1321604

The knee is not the only problem area here. (-;

fattimmy (Limerick) - Posts: 392 - 22/01/2013 10:40:02    1321606