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See mayo are playing an all erris xv in bangor on sunday week for a very worthy cause..Any thoughts on the make up of players on the erris team..id say it would have to be 7 from kiltane 5 from belmullet and 3 from kilcommon on the starting 15..any thoughts..??

jibber (Mayo) - Posts: 117 - 14/10/2008 17:43:25    119047

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Noone, fintan Ruddy, Mc Andrew, Derek and Terence Moran from Cil Chomain for sure, also possible Irwin

mayo51 (Mayo) - Posts: 77 - 15/10/2008 10:03:33    119290

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where is the game

mayolight (Mayo) - Posts: 79 - 15/10/2008 10:47:57    119334

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Id say both the mullet and cill chomain are ahead of kiltane at the minute so they should make up the bulk of the team. Maybe Erris should enter a team in the senior championship altogether itd be interesting to see how the clubs would get on together!

mayonews (Mayo) - Posts: 254 - 15/10/2008 12:29:45    119401

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Mayonews how are Belmullet & Cill Chomain ahead of Kiltane at the minute..? Kiltane are a senior club and have been for years while Belmullet & Cill Chomain are Intermediate.! Kiltane may have stuggled for a couple of season but are still miles ahead.!

Horsebox10 (Mayo) - Posts: 88 - 15/10/2008 13:21:52    119445

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ballycroy????

Topman (Leitrim) - Posts: 122 - 15/10/2008 17:11:38    119798

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``Topman`` questions Ballycroy?? Eoin is a brilliant physio !!

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 15/10/2008 18:45:27    119889

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that is a crazy statement to say belmullet and cill chomain are ahead of kiltane!! how many games did both those teams win all year..dont think belmullet won any league game ...kiltane beat castlebar by six points in the league and drew with claremorris the county senior semi finalists last week...for people who dont realise it there is a huge gulf between senior and intermediate football and this should be represented on erris team.

game is on sunday week at half 1 in bangor

jibber (Mayo) - Posts: 117 - 15/10/2008 19:06:21    119897

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Killala played kiltane twice this year and beat them once and lost once. kiltane didn't seem to want to be there. i dont think that they would be hungry enough for that kind of a challange match.oh and yea sweets is an exellent phisio

YA!OK! (Mayo) - Posts: 83 - 15/10/2008 23:04:25    120008

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Ok so they arent ahead but I really dont think there is much difference between bottom of the barrel senior championship and the top teams in the intermediate. For example last years intermediate champions ballintubber reached the county 1/4 finals whilst kiltane just about survived at the grade. I really dont think there is much to choose between these 3 teams. Its a pity the 3 werent in the same championship as youd be guaranteed some atmosphere at the very least! What i do think as well is there is a fear factor about going to play away games in erris....alot of teams from other parts of the county are beaten on the journey up...Its a very hard place to come out with a win from.

mayonews (Mayo) - Posts: 254 - 16/10/2008 13:02:56    120337

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i agree mayo news that there is not much between bottom senior and top intermediate teams but i dont think belmullet or kilcommon are in the top intermediate teams...kilcommon will never ever come up to senior whilst belmullet have constantly underachieved over the past 5 years..they have never made the intermediate final and this year were fairly hammered by aughamore twice..kiltane played one home championship game and were extremely unlucky not to draw with ballaghadereen who are probably the best team in the county..i think theres a similar gap from kiltane to belmullet then belmullet down to kilcommon

jibber (Mayo) - Posts: 117 - 16/10/2008 14:43:54    120434

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Fair enough jibber yer not far wrong i suppose. Also its alot harder to keep teams together in the erris area due to employment prospects, etc.. Its pretty isolated so the fact that clubs are holding their own is a great tribute to those that run them. I mean the areas involved are vast and sparsely populated and gettin to trainin isnt a matter of wandering down the street it can be a big journey. And thats just if you live in the area. Most have to travel down at wkends from work/college and it is some grind. That extra hour to get home after castlebar! Just a little point i think if kilcommon got a full team out (which is pretty impossible due in part to some of the reasons listed above) theyd have a fair crack at winnin the intermediate but probably would find it harder than yourselves (presumin yer a kiltane man) to remain there...

mayonews (Mayo) - Posts: 254 - 16/10/2008 15:08:27    120475

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I'd have to agree with Jibber, Belmullet can hardly be called a top Intermediate side, if they were they would surely have made an appearance at senior level in the last 10 years.
Kilcomman are a team that have made a lot of progress over the last few years, but again I don't know if they could be classed as a 'top' intermediate side.??
Kiltane have had their problems but fair play to them they always find a way to retain their senior status & have made it to quarter & semi finals in the last 5 or 6 years, which all things considered is a great achievement by the club

Horsebox10 (Mayo) - Posts: 88 - 16/10/2008 15:21:02    120491

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I agree dat if they had a full team kilcommon could go close to winning the intermediate but they simply do not have a strong enough squad to deal with injuries holidays etc..also they are seriously lacking forwards that can score from play...
from last years championship team kiltane lost munnelly the goalie,packie sweeney full back,tony gaughan center back, james o donnell and john scanlon from midfield, pj lally from center forward and edmund barrett from full forward..now the majority of those players would walk onto any club team so for kiltane to wait senior and competitive without those players is quite an achievement....
just on underage in erris i wonder is this the first year ever that no team in the area is competing in the A championship at minor u16 and u 14 levels??

jibber (Mayo) - Posts: 117 - 16/10/2008 21:00:12    120765

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@ Jibber and Horsebox
I think its unfair not to consider Belmullet a good outfit just because they havent graced the senior rankings recently. I mean one bad game can keep a team in intermediate for another season while one good game can keep a senior team up. They were beaten by an excellent Aghamore team this year and if it wasnt for the width of the crossbar in the first half of the semi-final then they, quite probably, (no disrespect to Kilmaine) would be a senior club next year.

Doritos (Mayo) - Posts: 64 - 17/10/2008 01:26:39    120904

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I respect the fact that Belmullet are a good outfit (they have shown this against top opposition in the league over the past few years), and I do agree that one bad game, bad ref decisions ect can define a season. But consistantly Belmullet have come up short when it really matters (winning an intermediate championship).

I have to add that it is very bad for Erris football of there are no 'A' grade teams from any of the clubs from u-14 to minor.!

Horsebox10 (Mayo) - Posts: 88 - 17/10/2008 10:24:22    121026

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Is'nt it ironic that players find it difficult to get to training in erris yet managers are willing to travel for hours to get there!!!

footballcountry (Mayo) - Posts: 21 - 17/10/2008 15:13:18    121397

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This is actually a really good thread.All the contributers have made really good points,they obviously know their football.As a blowin to the general area who attends a lot of matches all over Mayo I must say that Cill Chomain,Belmullet and Kiltane all deserve great credit for their respective standards over the last decade. All three will no doubt evolve as better teams at their
respective levels in the future.Why? They all have good players with ability allied to pride in their club.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 17/10/2008 16:17:34    121478

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As an erris man i think it's amazing that kiltane in particular have not had a representative on the county set-up in years. i know sean carey, john scanlon and edmond barrett had a run, the latter in particular was unlucky with injury last yr. it's not by fluke that kiltane are one of the longest serving senior clubs in mayo, they've players who can play, are tough and have heart (shown well this yr with the loss of so many). barrett i know is doing better with his club (think its judes) than o malley with vincents. he should be considered by mayo, skill and strenghth aplenty. o mahony needs to look to erris and the men who are able to grind out results and wins when it seems easier to lose.

jimbean (Mayo) - Posts: 47 - 18/10/2008 19:41:50    121836

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think couple of kitane players short of county class at the moment but there has been a definate bias against players from the area..in 1995 kiltane drew with corofin away in the connacht club champioship when corofin went on to win the all ireland..yet no kiltane player was involved in mayos championship run that year..


heard there was trial game last week for erris team and make up of panel is 6 players from each club..now isnt it a bit daft to have 6 players from kiltane who are a senior championship team yet also have 6 from ballycroy who are probably the worst team in mayo and wouldnt have one player in the top fifty in erris..i realise this game is only for a good cause but it would be embarrasing to see a couple of ballycroy players up against mayo

jibber (Mayo) - Posts: 117 - 19/10/2008 23:25:02    122153

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