shocking children should be allowed to play where there happy.but can understand the otherside too,maybe it's the parents are to blame for brainwashing kids to play for his club,where maybe he should be just happy that there playing sports.gaa is tribal maybe it would be held against the kids that there daddy from another club,it's all wrong

chalkie (Derry) - Posts: 312 - 24/02/2009 10:02:07    216507

Typical Tyrone-Underage Structure

theinformer (Cavan) - Posts: 104 - 24/02/2009 10:07:09    216519

Take a minute to think about this. Do the kids go to the Academy in Dungannon? Are all their friends there? Do their other family members like cousins play for Dungannon? Are they not happy in Aghaloo? Were they bullied sometimes during training or fell out with other boys there and do not wish to play there? It may be hypothetical but many a time has an 11 yr kid come home crying saying he is not going back be it for a row or not getting on with the other kids. The boys should be able to play where they are happy. They are not glory hunters as pointed out as the Clarkes are a junior team right now. In my opinion Aghaloo are disgracing themselves. Is there not a rule if you dont be a member for 2 yrs then you are not registered to any particular club, or is this just adults? Dellboy, usually you are pretty decent on here but this isnt about big or little clubs, its about the boys playing football. And the boys will not go back to Aghaloo now after all this.

gottabetrue (Tyrone) - Posts: 300 - 24/02/2009 11:05:24    216613

two great footballers (soccer and gaelic)..

both players should be allowed to join Dungannon and this saga has got out of hand!!! why do the tyrone county board not take control of this and sort it out. i also think that even if the boys get the transfer they have requested 5 years ago then they will only play with Thomas Clarkes for a while because they have the potential to succed in soccer!

budlight (Tyrone) - Posts: 540 - 24/02/2009 13:58:46    216853

dellboy you just showed your narrow mindedness there really..... these lads havent been able to play in 5 years! the simple fact is they are not going to go back to aghaloo and play. they want to play for dungannon....cant see how that is glory hunting! think of it this way what if it was two of your children! the mc killion bros are an exceptional talent! its such a waste to see them playing soccer for armagh city.

ThomasClarke1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 392 - 24/02/2009 13:59:35    216854

I know of at least 2 players in our Parish who were forced by their father to play with his (HOME) Parish and those 2 unfortunate kids,born,reared,schooled in our Parish are forced to play against their school friends,and there still u12.Wehavedecieded to leave them off,as each year goes by ,it is becoming more difficult for those 2 lads.Maybe down the line if the parents don't see the injustice first,they'll transfer themselves. When there are matchs , training , social occasions and any Club event,they are left out as they watch their buddys head off. Its wrong!!

The thing is east gael the lads WANT to play for dungannon, its there choice they go 2 school in dungannon and they work in dungannon most of their friends live in dungannon.

ThomasClarke1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 392 - 24/02/2009 14:06:48    216867

Yes its quite clear that the two lads here want to play in Dungannon and are not being forced - so it's a world of difference from the other case quoted. Thomas Clarke - I think you might have a vested interest in this!

Put it like this. You have a kid who spends a lot of time in his granny's a few miles away and goes to school there where all his friends are. He comes in one evening and asks can he play his club football with his mates. You say ok (assuming that this won't be a problem) and then find that the local club won't accommodate this request. Six years later you are still in the same position. Would you feel like you let your kid down? Do you think the kid (one was 11 when this started) understands whats going on here? Hardly.

Dubinmeath (Dublin) - Posts: 1123 - 24/02/2009 14:23:05    216896

DellBoy..

Sometimes - juts sometines it makes sense to actually read about the topic and then have the capacity to comprehend it before you spout off your irrational drivel.

DubinMeath's argument is sound here - your's is based on rhetoric. Inrelation to your comparison's to Meath - this particular situation bears little resemblance to any event I'm familiar with.

BRING_ON_GURTY! (Meath) - Posts: 712 - 24/02/2009 14:23:38    216897

Whats funny about this is the stories that are being told, the Mc Killions have not been out of GAA for 6 years, both of them played for dungannon up untill 07, but after drawing with strabane in the u16 final they got banned from the compitition for playing an illegal player (adrian mc killion) but they did still play GAA up untill then! Aghalo are a junior club at senior, dungannon play at grade 1 or 2 in every youth grade, but Aghalo are grade 4 in all. And ask any Aghaloo man the only reason they left is to play in the top leagues! Aghalo are refusing this contract because they say that if these lads get a transfer every tom dick and harry will be going to the big neighbouring clubs (Errigal or Dungannon) so why should they lets these big clubs take players when they already have 25+ lads when aghaloo struggle to get a team?

Eire Og! (Tyrone) - Posts: 81 - 24/02/2009 17:03:39    217109

This is a very complicated topic. I would guess there is a bit more going on under the surface that is not being made public. If the lads had not played for Agahaloo and went to the Clarkes at the start then there would be no problem, does anyone know why they suddenly decided they wanted to play for the Clarkes? I would have to disgaree with those that say that Agahaloo have driven them to soccer; these lads would rather player soccer for a team they have no connecions with than play for their local GAA club. Should we allow anyone that wants to leave their local club and join another that right?

MB1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 360 - 24/02/2009 17:20:09    217126

gottabetrue County: Tyrone Posts: 135 216613 Take a minute to think about this. Do the kids go to the Academy in Dungannon? Are all their friends there? Do their other family members like cousins play for Dungannon? Are they not happy in Aghaloo? Were they bullied sometimes during training or fell out with other boys there and do not wish to play there? It may be hypothetical but many a time has an 11 yr kid come home crying saying he is not going back be it for a row or not getting on with the other kids. The boys should be able to play where they are happy. They are not glory hunters as pointed out as the Clarkes are a junior team right now. In my opinion Aghaloo are disgracing themselves. Is there not a rule if you dont be a member for 2 yrs then you are not registered to any particular club, or is this just adults? Dellboy, usually you are pretty decent on here but this isnt about big or little clubs, its about the boys playing football. And the boys will not go back to Aghaloo now after all this No one is stopping them playing for aghaloo only there father .And if they got there move everyone would be at it as well . Clubs have the right to keep there players and if like someone else stated that if they did not want to play Or there father did not want them to play for aghaloo he should not have registered them there . I think the father had a fallen out with the club and trying to drag the two lads away from it simple as .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/02/2009 17:27:32    217139

o know the two lads sound fellas fair enough they fell out with aghaloo they are talented as you come. as far as theyre concerned its the gaa's loss they just feel so letd down by the organisation thats supposed to welcome everyone

passerby (Tyrone) - Posts: 724 - 24/02/2009 17:27:47    217140

Its hypocricy. Everyone the country over knows what goes on with transfers all over the country - and its NOTHING to do with love of the jersey. I'm sure Mr McKillion would never have let the lads play for Aghaloo if he knew they were going to be like this if they tried to leave - hindsight is wonderful. Its great to see GAA people clinging to rules and traditions when it suits them and then turning a blind eye when it doesn't. Every club in Ireland does it. As I said before tradition, boundaries and rules didn't count for much when Galway and Antrim were thrown into the Leinster Hurling C'ship.

Bottom line here is that two talented lads are lost to GAA. In the wider (and future) 'Tyrone' picture can't see how thats good for anyone. As for they'd rather play soccer that's obvious BS. Its quite clear the lads would like to play for Thomas Clarke's but the good folk of Aghaloo see fit to withold that right from them - and six years later continue this madness.

Dubinmeath (Dublin) - Posts: 1123 - 24/02/2009 17:47:30    217166

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216519 Typical Tyrone-Underage Structure


That is why we get success at underage ..

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/02/2009 18:13:29    217199

dellboy

No one is stopping them playing for aghaloo only there father .And if they got there move everyone would be at it as well . Clubs have the right to keep there players and if like someone else stated that if they did not want to play Or there father did not want them to play for aghaloo he should not have registered them there . I think the father had a fallen out with the club and trying to drag the two lads away from it simple as .

1) No one is stopping them playing for aghaloo only there father

their father isnt stopping them playing for aghaloo the lads have been treated that unfairly by aghaloo that THEY dont want to play for aghaloo.

2) Clubs have the right to keep there players and if like someone else stated that if they did not want to play Or there father did not want them to play for aghaloo he should not have registered them there

the lads live in caledon they went to primary school with caledon! their childhood friends live in caledon and play for aghaloo this is why they started out at aghaloo.

3) i think the father had a fallen out with the club and trying to drag the two lads away from it simple as

No the father didnt have a fall out with the club wen the lads reached secondary school they decided they wanted to play for dungannon. please dont make up your BS and add it to the story when you dont know the actual ins and outs of it in the first place!

dubinmeath- your a legend

ThomasClarke1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 392 - 24/02/2009 19:26:59    217259

dublinmeath and thomasclarke1 seem to be have hit the nail on the head!

budlight (Tyrone) - Posts: 540 - 24/02/2009 22:42:39    217397

Listen lads rules are rules end off .No one is stopping them playiing for aghaloo and the only reason thomas is saying that because he is from dungannon man bias .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/02/2009 22:50:45    217408

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Listen lads rules are rules end off .No one is stopping them playiing for aghaloo and the only reason thomas is saying that because he is from dungannon man bias .


Now this is very interesting. Because we all know that those rules are all aimed at destroying Ulster, bigger suspensions, picking on that poor lad Ricey, and all the rest. We know this because Dellboy told us so, in about 10,000 threads.

I presume these lads are from Ulster Dellboy? Yet again, biased rules to stop Ulster lads playing football.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 25/02/2009 00:34:44    217471

In General the Parish rule is a good one. Of course there are exceptions,work ,change of address etc. but i always felt it was the one thing , a good thing , that we have over soccer and rugby. The one thing they crave and try constantly to recreate is that sense of Parish.But the reality is a soccer player can sign for a new club every year,a bit sad in my opinion. Iknow in my part of the country playing for your native parish is one of the biggest strengths of the G.A.A. The local soccer club try unsuccessfully to recreate this sense of loyalty to club. Basically , any G.A.A. player can pick their Club pre U12. As i said earlier if a player didn't want to play for us.....well , good riddance, i would blame parents in 99% of these situations. I know in citys the players have greater freedom to pick and choose,but in the main once they've chosen thats it for life. In the situation up North ,i think it has gone too far,let them go,the team that lets go comes out with more credibility in the long run.After a year or 2 out , thats enough.

eastgael (Limerick) - Posts: 629 - 25/02/2009 09:22:12    217536

nah dellboy its just that i know what i am takling about and you dont. patrique-but sure the tyrone county board and aghaloo are the ones who stopped the transfer going through! so its nothing to do with being from ulster!

ThomasClarke1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 392 - 25/02/2009 09:38:27    217551