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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 6 Like(s)
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Sorry you and Young Gael are right. I did nt realise they have a bigger population than I though. They have the 6th biggest in Leinster and are number 18 in Ireland with a population of just under 129. 000.Of course yes they compete with soccer big time but I the gaa is popular in Louth. I remember Louth giving Dublin great games in the 90 s and it would be lovely to see them on the up again but als I still think Leinster a step too far at the moment." Just forget about Leinster as a metric altogether. You could pick the best players out of the entire province and they wouldn't beat that Dublin set-up.
Such is the decline in the game and the incredible rise of the Dubs. Dont worry about Leinster, stay ahead of Kerry and maybe two or three assorted others and you'll always be all-Ireland champions. Isn't it great?
Young_gael (National) - 18/01/2021 16:04:42
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 5 Like(s)
Leinster is dead, we know that and it has been for a long while. The dubs will win it in 2021 but with Mickey Harte taking over at Louth, are they now best placed to give Dublin their closest contest in leinster in the next few years ahead of Kildare and Meath ? I think with Louths plans to build a new ground in Dundalk and the arrival of MH, alot of potential want away players could be persuaded to give it a bash and will be potentially very excited about the future and have alot more to be hopeful and upbeat about. You can see a vision and its bold.
I like Louth. I've tonnes of time for them and I'd like if they were the ones to give it a good rattle cause the others have been brutal let's be honest.
waynoI (National) - 18/01/2021 13:40:04
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 4 Like(s)
Replying To waynoI: "Leinster is dead, we know that and it has been for a long while. The dubs will win it in 2021 but with Mickey Harte taking over at Louth, are they now best placed to give Dublin their closest contest in leinster in the next few years ahead of Kildare and Meath ? I think with Louths plans to build a new ground in Dundalk and the arrival of MH, alot of potential want away players could be persuaded to give it a bash and will be potentially very excited about the future and have alot more to be hopeful and upbeat about. You can see a vision and its bold.
I like Louth. I've tonnes of time for them and I'd like if they were the ones to give it a good rattle cause the others have been brutal let's be honest." awe you're dead right Waynol
Louth for Sam 21 should be trending on Twitter
Louth are primed and ready to take it to the Dubs big time. Just like Kildare and Laois under Micko and Westmeath under Paidi the next former big name will lead the Dubs on a merry dance. Things are only starting now with their new ground, they'll take over GAA and every child in Drogheda, Ardee, Castlebellingham and Dundalk will be pulling on the jersey in no time. Mickey is the man to lead them to the promised land of a first Leinster title in 64 years.
They're gonna hammer their ould enemy to the west in Meath, then onto face the might of Kildare and show them who's boss and onto the Dirty Dubs and show them what dirt is all about with the whipping their gonna put on the jackeens.... and sure everyone else will just surrender then and give them Sam
Look in all seriousness Mickey will have a tough job on his hands. Promotion to division 2 and a leinster semi final would be marked achievement for them based on their current predicament.
One of the biggest issues they have had in the wee county is keeping a consistent panel together of their absolute best players and even at that they're hard pressed to get to a Leinster semi final. Louth has always been a soccer county and will continue to be as such. Louth is a county that needs to have a look at all levels of their county game as they rarely if ever threaten at underage. They need to build things up from that base. Get lads and girls into the Louth jersey, get interested in playing for their county and winning at underage level and then hopefully some players come through into the senior ranks that you can build a team around. I do believe they have some great facilities at their centre of excellence but they need to start getting through some players from it.
Even in their most successful period the mid ninties they could never get past a Leinster Semi final (no fault of their own they'd strong Dublin, Meath, Kildare and Offaly times around then too) . Success and results on the pitch will get people interested and want to pull on the jersey. They've some talented young players and if they can build from that with a great manager like Mickey Harte then they guys coming in after Mickey should reap the benefit. Whomever they have on line to replace Mickey cos its not going to last forever should already be on board and working with the team. Glean what they can from Mickey but working with the panel of players in developing a @[email protected] style of play that can be used for the next 5-8 years.
I wish them well, apart from when they play Meath of course and would be good to have several strong Leinster teams that could start getting to super 8's etc and beating teams from other provinces on a more regular basis. Its the only way that leinster teams will progress.
brian (National) - 18/01/2021 14:17:24
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 4 Like(s)
Replying To CiarraiMick: "I have no doubt MH will improve Louth but challenge the Dubs at the moment? No way. Louth have a tiny population and with recession on the way more lads will immigrate. Smaller counties need all their players to have any chance. A great appointment for Louth and I expect improvement no doubt but no Leinster championship yet." Mick I'd disagree with you population entirely. The two of the three biggest towns in the country are Drogheda and Dundalk with 80,000 people between them and another 5,000 in Ardee per the 2016 census. Drogheda on its own has a bigger population than Longford. In 2106 they were 129k people living in Louth. Only Dublin, Kildare, Meath, Wexford and Wicklow have bigger populations. They're the 5th most densely populated county on the island.
Population is no excuse or reason for Louth.
brian (National) - 18/01/2021 15:45:57
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 4 Like(s)
Replying To Young_gael: "Also as a follow on to my last,
This whole thread is a badger baiting situation. Us (Meath posters) chiefly but also Kildare, W/Meath and Laois being the badgers in this instance :D
Offaly, Longford and Carlow also are ahead of Louth. In fact you could argue Louth are the lowest placed Leinster county as things stand at this moment...
Dont fall for it lads, dont give 'em the satisfaction!" Think we know he's baiting but no harm arguing the points ;)
brian (National) - 18/01/2021 15:47:56
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Tradition - 4 Like(s)
Replying To MicktheMiller: "Stalin was a seminarian for the Orthodox Church in his youth." And Hitler was an altar boy the point is they both hated religion, didnt believe in god and practise genocide on an industrial scale. The problen is us, humans, not god
arock (National) - 18/01/2021 21:14:48
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Lesser Names We Neutrals Forget - Yet They Are Winners - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Galway9801: "Definitely perks to it alright too ,, I guess the problem is that if everyone decides to take a step back and maybe focus more on mixing dedication to the club with a healthy outside life there's always gonna be one team who goes at it 100% and if success comes to them then everyone wise will follow." I don't blame or begrudge elite players getting perks. But in the interest of it being a "team" sport I love the story I heard from Kilkenny a few years ago...not sure if it's true maybe someone here can confirm.
A Kilkenny player was offered a new car and the dealer rang Cody to see if it was ok after the player said he would need to check with the boss. Cody said no problem but only in one condition....every player in the panel has to get a car ;)....
yew_tree (National) - 18/01/2021 10:17:24
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Tradition - 3 Like(s)
Also there's mass said in Croke Park on AI Final days. Catholic mass. Not sure if there's any services for other faiths but I don't think you have reason to complain other than victimhood.
Breffni40 (National) - 18/01/2021 12:54:57
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 3 Like(s)
I'd give them a better chance than the rest now..kildare a close second as well, the rest no chance...
Galwaymaster9 (National) - 18/01/2021 14:33:19
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 3 Like(s)
I'm the proudest of Meathmen and that means I often ran into issues with relating to Louth GAA fans. Enough said. I lived in the Dundalk area for several years in the last decade and witnessed the club scene firsthand. I can honestly hand-on-heart say that the talent was incrementally there, and often there were individuals of all ages (16/17 up to 30 odd) who were very good players. There was a very invested core of support also. However general interest and structure in Joe Citizen wasn't there. It was a very chaotic set-up and players did often mix and match their football with soccer, and more often chose soccer. I disagree that Louth has a tiny population, it certainly doesen't. Dundalk is saturated with a very cosmopolitan population, as close to a city as a place can get in Ireland without being a city. The issues are purely tradition and culture based, and these issues are difficult to breakdown in life. GAA isnt a huge organisation in Louth, unlike many other Leinster counties. The county is very small but its population centres are large, which creates issues for the urban club such as retention, identity and the community factor. I always felt these pre-requisites were lost on Louth GAA and they have to compete with Dundalk FC and to a lesser extent Drogheda Utd. Many in Drogheda support Meath also dont forget. They absolutely can challenge everyone in Leinster, bar Dublin, and the Harte factor is a new ingredient to the mix but he isnt a magician. It remains to be seen what they'll acheive. I predict 2/3 good showings yearly in the league between now and 2024/25, maybe hitting Division 2, and perhaps a 4/5 game run in the championship in one of those years. Agree with whats above as well, they'll have Meath in their crosshairs. Beating Meath in the championship would mean the world for Louth irregardless of circumstances. I wish them all the best.
Young_gael (National) - 18/01/2021 15:21:02
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 3 Like(s)
Also as a follow on to my last,
This whole thread is a badger baiting situation. Us (Meath posters) chiefly but also Kildare, W/Meath and Laois being the badgers in this instance :D
Offaly, Longford and Carlow also are ahead of Louth. In fact you could argue Louth are the lowest placed Leinster county as things stand at this moment...
Dont fall for it lads, dont give 'em the satisfaction!
Young_gael (National) - 18/01/2021 15:41:57
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 3 Like(s)
Replying To waynoI: "Leinster is dead, we know that and it has been for a long while. The dubs will win it in 2021 but with Mickey Harte taking over at Louth, are they now best placed to give Dublin their closest contest in leinster in the next few years ahead of Kildare and Meath ? I think with Louths plans to build a new ground in Dundalk and the arrival of MH, alot of potential want away players could be persuaded to give it a bash and will be potentially very excited about the future and have alot more to be hopeful and upbeat about. You can see a vision and its bold.
I like Louth. I've tonnes of time for them and I'd like if they were the ones to give it a good rattle cause the others have been brutal let's be honest." Are u having a laugh. We have a saying you can not make a silk purse from a sows ear. Mickey harte is a clever man and is on a good deal. But to challenge Dublin not a hope. Louth will not improve one bit the only thing that will happen is that their county board will be poorer financially
mickcunningham (National) - 18/01/2021 19:37:46
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HS Readers' Football Team Of The Year 2020 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To thegadfly: "I grew up in the 80's and 90's myself. Heady days indeed for Meath football. As a child I used to marvel at all the green and yellow fertiliser bags stapled to the telegraph poles round Meath. (And we're supposed to be the mean ones lol)
That's gone now unfortunately. To say there's no rivalry with Cavan around Moynalty, K'wood, Oldcastle,Kells is not true. I mean the craic does be good and a bit of slagging goes on. I'd call that rivalry. There was a great atmosphere at the qualifier match in Clones in 2005 I think it was. Your wife got one up on you that day lol
I'm not sure if your rivalry with Dublin is going to come back anytime soon. The Leinster championship is on life support at this stage unfortunately." Mate, I'm from Kells. And to say there's no rivalry is correct, because there isn't one. Yes there's good natured humour and banter, but there's no rivalry. Games between Cavan and Meath have been so infrequent that it rules out any kind of rivalry. Last met in the championship on 2005 as you say and probably the early 50's before that. That does not a rivlary make. I'm guessing you probably work in Wellmans in Mullagh right on the border. If you do, I know why you might think theirs a rivalry as you've probably been on the end of and dished out plenty of abuse in your time.
Cavan's main rivalry has been and always will be with Monaghan, a team you'd play regularly in the Ulster championship. Our rivalry is with Dublin, always has been and always will been no matter how much they are beating us bu now in games. Nothing stirs a Meath man's passion more than the sight of the navy and sky blue jersey of Dublin. I'm sure most dubs of a similar vintage would agree about the green and gold.
And yes the wife has given me plenty of slagging about 2005, but she's now wholly converted and wears the green and gold, goes to Meath matches and is more likely to scream hon the royal than c'mon Cavan. not to say she didn't enjoy the Ulster win this season though ;)
brian (National) - 18/01/2021 09:52:32
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 2 Like(s)
Cant see a Micky team beating Dublin at this stage, we've come up against his systems to often and sprung the trap to many times.
That said i think his aim will be to definitely take on Meath, Westmeath and Kildare and have a right good go through the second second tier if they dont reach a provincial and qualifiers if they do. Big question i would think is whether Meath, Westmeath and Kildare (or indeed other counties) would be able to break down a Micky system the way the Dubs have. Louth may also see some of their players returning and have some very decent underage. Will all depend on which side of the draw they end up on initially.
I think this appointment may have significant substance to it, compared to other "big name" managerial appointments some other Leinster counties have a tendency to do.
TheUsername (National) - 18/01/2021 14:17:40
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Tradition - 1 Like(s)
Replying To worple: "For a start ,I said personal sin." So you did, I should have read more closely.
Well, a newborn is innocent of personal sin AND original sin or any other kind of sin as far as I'm concerned.
I'm curious now what the difference is, but I can look it up myself.
Suas Sios (National) - 18/01/2021 09:35:54
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Provincial Championships - 1 Like(s)
Replying To omahant: "I would rather make minor tweaks -
In Champp 2, crossover 3rds hosting 4ths in Promo SFs instead - winners join Champp 2 SF losers in 2 Promo Finals (played same day as Champp 2 Final) - 4 go up instead to replace both 7ths & 8ths in Champp 1.
Champp 1 KO as you have it.
For fixture variety each year (without a need for a draw) - all even placed teams (2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th) switch groups within the division the following year (odds stay put, in group A or B)." Yeah something like that'd be fine too.
Whammo86 (National) - 18/01/2021 11:28:36
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Tradition - 1 Like(s)
As a parting shot to this Tradition thread I would like to point out that even now in pagan(?) England every cup final at Wembley begins with a hymn. If they tried that in Croke Park our spot-on whizzo generation would be livid with rage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg3gCw5mm7c
worple (National) - 18/01/2021 12:42:52
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 1 Like(s)
Absolutely no chance! Mickey is not a miracle worker. I like Louth and hope to see them make big strides under Mickey but Louth is very much a soccer county still. Much like the rest of us they are never going to be able to compete with Dublin for the next ten years at least
Meath10 (National) - 18/01/2021 13:45:07
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To waynoI: "Leinster is dead, we know that and it has been for a long while. The dubs will win it in 2021 but with Mickey Harte taking over at Louth, are they now best placed to give Dublin their closest contest in leinster in the next few years ahead of Kildare and Meath ? I think with Louths plans to build a new ground in Dundalk and the arrival of MH, alot of potential want away players could be persuaded to give it a bash and will be potentially very excited about the future and have alot more to be hopeful and upbeat about. You can see a vision and its bold.
I like Louth. I've tonnes of time for them and I'd like if they were the ones to give it a good rattle cause the others have been brutal let's be honest." No chance
hurlorhurley (National) - 18/01/2021 14:05:11
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Are Louth Best Placed To Challenge Dublin? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To waynoI: "Leinster is dead, we know that and it has been for a long while. The dubs will win it in 2021 but with Mickey Harte taking over at Louth, are they now best placed to give Dublin their closest contest in leinster in the next few years ahead of Kildare and Meath ? I think with Louths plans to build a new ground in Dundalk and the arrival of MH, alot of potential want away players could be persuaded to give it a bash and will be potentially very excited about the future and have alot more to be hopeful and upbeat about. You can see a vision and its bold.
I like Louth. I've tonnes of time for them and I'd like if they were the ones to give it a good rattle cause the others have been brutal let's be honest." are u on the beer or the sprits? which ever u have had enough , your raving,
Stmunnsriver (National) - 18/01/2021 15:35:37
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