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Straight Knockout In SFC, Advantage Who? - 5 Like(s)

Replying To WanPintWin:  "Most good athletes can keep a player quiet if their sole job is exactly that. I.e. Stick to him like glue for the whole 70 mins. We have lads at club level who do this job on the other team's best players. They're athletically capable of doing what's needed, but aren't the best footballers themselves. I remember Phil Neville doing a brilliant man-marking job on Vieira, when Vieira was at his peak. He didn't give him a second to breathe, but we all know which of them was by far the better player. Fenton was still far more prominent in both of last year's All-Irelands than Barry in terms of getting on the ball, despite one of them solely having a 'stopper' role. Fenton has contributed far more creatively than any other midfielder in the game over the last 5 years. He's also the best kicker of a ball in that position."
This is certainly true. Kerry always try to shut Fenton down when playing Dublin and have been reasonably successful at doing it. That might go back to 2015 when he caught Kerry somewhat by surprise and ran the show in the final. Jack Barry is a very good midfielder in the making but not in Fentons league as a playmaker. I don't think even the most blinkered Kerry supporters would suggest that he is. That's the reason that Kerry are quite happy to let him do that job, if they cancel each other out is advantage to Kerry on paper, albeit one that hasn't made the difference to date.

GeniusGerry (National) - 01/07/2020 12:21:54

Straight Knockout In SFC, Advantage Who? - 4 Like(s)

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Fentin is a very good midfielder (from good Kerry stock) playing on a very good team but Jack Barry has kept him quite the last 3-4 times they met and that's a fact. I thought Tommy was a decent minor but you obviously haven't seen much if anything of Mark O'Connor where I and other Kerry people have, so you can take my word for it if Mark was back home fentin would only be the 3rd best midfielder in the country."
As I already stated Mark O Connor has not played senior so we cant judge.A brilliant minor but senior a different league and one cant argue about Brian Fenton s brilliance.I saw plenty of Mark as a minor for the record

CiarraiMick (National) - 01/07/2020 15:16:51

Straight Knockout In SFC, Advantage Who? - 4 Like(s)

Replying To WanPintWin:  "Most good athletes can keep a player quiet if their sole job is exactly that. I.e. Stick to him like glue for the whole 70 mins. We have lads at club level who do this job on the other team's best players. They're athletically capable of doing what's needed, but aren't the best footballers themselves. I remember Phil Neville doing a brilliant man-marking job on Vieira, when Vieira was at his peak. He didn't give him a second to breathe, but we all know which of them was by far the better player. Fenton was still far more prominent in both of last year's All-Irelands than Barry in terms of getting on the ball, despite one of them solely having a 'stopper' role. Fenton has contributed far more creatively than any other midfielder in the game over the last 5 years. He's also the best kicker of a ball in that position."
We're more then happy, with Jack Barry on Fenton, Fenton just drifts him out and makes space through, look how much the Dublin half back lined scored and over the two games, absolute field day. Not so sure Jack Barry marking Fenton is to the oppositions benefit to be honest, it's micro analysis stuff, there is a way bigger picture to that dynamic.

TheUsername (National) - 01/07/2020 16:22:27

Jack Mccaffrey - 4 Like(s)

Replying To superbluedub:  "Nah not playing your childish games , There goes another thread spoiled with your bitter nonsense."
ignore that big baba, he is either not very bright or just plain bitter

Stmunnsriver (National) - 01/07/2020 17:05:21

Jack Mccaffrey - 3 Like(s)

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I never said Jack wasnt a good player what I said was what big championship games has he won outside of Crokepark? Can you name any?"
Against Tyrone in Omagh last year

CiarraiMick (National) - 01/07/2020 11:02:48

Championship Predictions - 3 Like(s)
Clearly in this most mental year of our lifetime Mayo will now win it just to top off the madness.

TheFlaker (National) - 01/07/2020 11:51:23

Straight Knockout In SFC, Advantage Who? - 3 Like(s)

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Fentin is a very good midfielder (from good Kerry stock) playing on a very good team but Jack Barry has kept him quite the last 3-4 times they met and that's a fact. I thought Tommy was a decent minor but you obviously haven't seen much if anything of Mark O'Connor where I and other Kerry people have, so you can take my word for it if Mark was back home fentin would only be the 3rd best midfielder in the country."
Most good athletes can keep a player quiet if their sole job is exactly that. I.e. Stick to him like glue for the whole 70 mins. We have lads at club level who do this job on the other team's best players. They're athletically capable of doing what's needed, but aren't the best footballers themselves. I remember Phil Neville doing a brilliant man-marking job on Vieira, when Vieira was at his peak. He didn't give him a second to breathe, but we all know which of them was by far the better player. Fenton was still far more prominent in both of last year's All-Irelands than Barry in terms of getting on the ball, despite one of them solely having a 'stopper' role. Fenton has contributed far more creatively than any other midfielder in the game over the last 5 years. He's also the best kicker of a ball in that position.

WanPintWin (National) - 01/07/2020 11:55:26

Jack Mccaffrey - 3 Like(s)

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Name 1 big championship game outside of crokepark that Jack won?"
Nah not playing your childish games , There goes another thread spoiled with your bitter nonsense.

superbluedub (National) - 01/07/2020 14:11:05

Jack Mccaffrey - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "ignore that big baba, he is either not very bright or just plain bitter"
Its called a troll

wexico15 (National) - 01/07/2020 19:32:44

The Team You LOVE To Beat The Most In Hurling And Football - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Pericles:  "Wasn't the point I was making Young_gael and maybe it's a sign of your youth. The 1983 final finished with 26 players on the pitch and with other incidents not seen or punished fully it could have been closer to 20. It's regarded as the dirtiest final ever... way dirtier than the '96 final replay between our counties when most of the fizz happened in one crazy punch-up, but that incident still distinguishes the '96 game as one of the most infamous.... '83 though is still the yardstick for all the wrong reasons by some distance. Nothing at all to do with whether Mayo could have or should have...."
Ah I see, thanks for clearing that up Pericles.

Young_gael (National) - 01/07/2020 12:19:06

Championship Predictions - 2 Like(s)

Replying To cavanman47:  "Or find and even madder way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. . . ;)"
Well we haven't lost a final on penalties so I'm sure we will find a way to do that ;) winning a connacht title again would be a welcome start though

yew_tree (National) - 01/07/2020 12:46:11

The Team You LOVE To Beat The Most In Hurling And Football - 2 Like(s)
Dublin. The reasons are not tribal in my case. Put simply, any Meath team good enough to beat Dublin in the championship is good enough to beat anyone else. Beating Dublin in Leinster was always the springboard for Meath to go on and win or challenge for Sam, at least since the 1960s and 70s anyway.

Young_gael (National) - 01/07/2020 19:03:15

Kilkenny GAA Confirms One Club Player Has Contracted Covid-19 - 2 Like(s)

Replying To moc.dna:  "That's a lot of people who may be deemed as close contacts & who may be out of work for two weeks. People will not be happy being out of work or if loved ones with underlying conditions are put at risk. Massive onus on Covid-19 officers to ensure all protocols are followed, ie limited numbers, pre registration protocols, social distancing & close contact, hygiene protocols around equipment, training within designated time frame & on grounds covered by insurance, if they aren't it could lead to follow on actions. Where problems may arise in these situations is where there may be cover ups or non disclosure. It could lead to pressure being applied to players to cover up events in case their club or county get excluded from C'ship. The haste to reopen & play games could have massive consequences for the country, you only have to look at the increase in the 18 to 34 age bracket in Texas & Florida as to what can happen. Last nights programme showing the frontline staff shows how tough it has been on them, we cannot place them under more pressure. Rules & protocols may be ditched or not adhered to & could lead to further outbreaks. The example set by the two most senior officials within the GAA doesn't auger well, when they tell people to report teams breaking guidelines but they won't be taking any action on it. Extraordinary statement from those at the highest level whose role is to implement the rules. Let's see what happens & who is going to take responsibility."
Well look at the HSE protocols for their own frontline staff, if a doctor phones into work that they have one/more symptoms they self isolate and await the results of a test. But what of his fellow workers? they continue until it is determined they are actually a close contact, they then self-isolate until a confirmation positive/negative is given. It is no different if you are working in a shop or whatever. The key point is until you are classified as a close contact. The argument has been made about players in the open air with minimal contact etc etc but it will be up to contact tracers to decide your catagory. But there is still a bit of ambiguity about the level of contact. For now if a player informs a covid supervisor that is end of training until everyone is cleared to resume. BTW If a player is training with county (albeit illegally) the same applies to them and the entire county team. If they have been training also with their clubs and tracers determine they are also close contacts an entire Club county championship could be wiped out by this unsanctioned illegal activity. I wouldn't like to be an officer on a county board that allowed (by turning a blind eye) a county team to train and allowed the same players to train at their respective clubs. This is a grenade waiting to go off in someones face.

arock (National) - 01/07/2020 21:31:57

Kilkenny GAA Confirms One Club Player Has Contracted Covid-19 - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny club members self-isolating after GAA player tests positive for coronavirus On Sunday, interim guidance to the GAA stated that all team-mates and members of team management of a player who displays coronavirus symptoms in the 48-hour period after a training session or game "should be considered close contacts until advised otherwise by public health authorities". The recommendation after a club player tests positive following the display of symptoms during those 48 hours is to suspend all further training and games activity until public health contact tracers undertake full close contact assessment and testing. Members of the infected player's team, including manager, coach, and selectors, must also self-isolate as per public health advice and until advised otherwise. link So this means the 30 plus players and staff cannot go to work for two weeks. Will the GAA be compensating them for any loss of earnings?"
Why would the GAA be compensating them for loss of earnings? Anybody partaking in Gaelic games, or any other leisure activity for that matter, has made a choice to do so - no contracts, no compulsion, purely of their own free will. We take personal responsibility for our choices, based on our evaluation of the risk involved.

football first (National) - 01/07/2020 10:13:37

Jack Mccaffrey - 1 Like(s)

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I never said Jack wasnt a good player what I said was what big championship games has he won outside of Crokepark? Can you name any?"
Still trying to belittle Dublins achievements any chance you get with your petty childish bitter nonsense Children must play -:)

superbluedub (National) - 01/07/2020 11:08:49

The Team You LOVE To Beat The Most In Hurling And Football - 1 Like(s)
Mayo and Laois in football and Cork in the hurling

CaogaCuig (National) - 01/07/2020 11:38:16

Championship Predictions - 1 Like(s)

Replying To TheFlaker:  "Clearly in this most mental year of our lifetime Mayo will now win it just to top off the madness."
Or find and even madder way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. . . ;)

cavanman47 (National) - 01/07/2020 11:59:59

The Team You LOVE To Beat The Most In Hurling And Football - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Gleebo:  "The other All-Ireland finalists, don't care who."
How's that working out for you? From a Donegal perspective Monaghan or Tyrone I suppose at the present time.

Tirchonaill1 (National) - 01/07/2020 12:41:37

Kilkenny GAA Confirms One Club Player Has Contracted Covid-19 - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny club members self-isolating after GAA player tests positive for coronavirus On Sunday, interim guidance to the GAA stated that all team-mates and members of team management of a player who displays coronavirus symptoms in the 48-hour period after a training session or game "should be considered close contacts until advised otherwise by public health authorities". The recommendation after a club player tests positive following the display of symptoms during those 48 hours is to suspend all further training and games activity until public health contact tracers undertake full close contact assessment and testing. Members of the infected player's team, including manager, coach, and selectors, must also self-isolate as per public health advice and until advised otherwise. link So this means the 30 plus players and staff cannot go to work for two weeks. Will the GAA be compensating them for any loss of earnings?"
No, the GAA cannot and does not tell anyone to self isolate. What they are saying is that all activities for those in the team etc have to be suspended for 48hrs in which time they will have been contacted by the tracers to determine if they are close contacts. If they are close contacts they isolate until told otherwise. A lot of people do not seem to understand what close contact means as to suggest that because one player even if at training had it everyone is a close contact defies logic. There is a process to deal with this, if they find that through evidence based results that things need to change then they will.

zinny (National) - 01/07/2020 13:18:10

Championship Predictions - 1 Like(s)
I'm going to be pessimistic and predict that we're going to be in the throws of another wave of the pandemic again and another lockdown. Championship won't proceed. I hope I'm wrong.

The_Fonz (National) - 01/07/2020 13:23:15