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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Like most of his ilk."
It's actually "peileadóir'. Now, who are his "ilk" may I ask?

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2081 - 03/07/2026 13:28:22    2683920

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Like most of his ilk."
Dubs often refer to a penalty as a Peno….!

So what exactly is your point here…????

Supporters can follow more than one sport you know.
In Dublin, with GAA Football and Hurling, Soccer, and Rugby played in our county, a hell of a lot of fans will overlap.

Is there a problem with that .????

Do you not follow Ireland Soccer or Rugby teams.?

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 5239 - 03/07/2026 13:55:29    2683925

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Replying To Fionn:  "Dubs often refer to a penalty as a Peno….!

So what exactly is your point here…????

Supporters can follow more than one sport you know.
In Dublin, with GAA Football and Hurling, Soccer, and Rugby played in our county, a hell of a lot of fans will overlap.

Is there a problem with that .????

Do you not follow Ireland Soccer or Rugby teams.?"
Not even the hard to listen to English call it a "peno"

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2913 - 03/07/2026 15:35:17    2683957

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Replying To ulsterrules:  "That is true on the free's as it is true that Clifford gets alot from free's also."
In Fact most Cliffords scores are from play. He is not Kerry s main free taker.

gaa.88 (Kerry) - Posts: 56 - 03/07/2026 15:53:11    2683965

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yes but the Dubs do...

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2081 - 03/07/2026 15:56:25    2683966

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Not even the hard to listen to English call it a "peno""
Well Dublin people do.

So get over over it….!

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 5239 - 03/07/2026 16:06:29    2683973

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Not even the hard to listen to English call it a "peno""
So? Dublin is nt in England.

We say Penos the English say pens
We use euro the English use sterling

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 765 - 03/07/2026 18:06:34    2684017

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Replying To Fionn:  "Well Dublin people do.

So get over over it….!"
Dublinese dialect 101.
Many Dubs put an "o" after the first syllable of the noun, particularly the proper noun.
For example, Stephen can become "Steo", "Cluxton" becomes "Clucko" while "Fenton" is fondly referred to by fans and team mates as "Fento', Ciaran Whelan was "Whelo" etc. This element of Dublin sporting dialect has spilt over into Rugby. The great Brian O'Driscoll was commonly referred to as "Dricko". Apologies if my reference to that foreign code has offended any true Gaels.
Two syllable forms ending in a broad vowel are just so chantable in a stadium and but they seem to irritate the Fíor- Ghael, who is highly sensitive to anything that appears to be an affectation of the English soccer fan. The Fíor Ghael is deeply suspicious of the Dub whom he believes to be more British than Irish so when they hear usages like 'peno' he works himself up into a lather of self-righteous indignation. What else could it be but an attempt to import the culture of English soccer into our native sport by stealth?
The Fíor Ghael if often so fixated on monitoring this blight of English/foreign influence emanating from Dublin that he fails to see how it has seeped into the culture of his own county. It must gall many Tyrone fans to know that the great Mickey Harte and his management team were highly influenced by the ideas of English rugby coach, Clive Woodward, particularly his coaching philosophy of "critical non-essentials". The poor Donegal fan may point outward at the soccer loving Dub but surely the great Jim McGuinness must have learned a lot from being part of soccer coaching set ups in Scotland, China and the US.
If circumstances permit, the next time I'm on the Hill I'll be sure to clearly enunciate each syllable of the English word PENALTY lest I rouse the suspicions of any vigilant Gael.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2081 - 03/07/2026 18:26:15    2684026

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Replying To avonali:  "Dublinese dialect 101.
Many Dubs put an "o" after the first syllable of the noun, particularly the proper noun.
For example, Stephen can become "Steo", "Cluxton" becomes "Clucko" while "Fenton" is fondly referred to by fans and team mates as "Fento', Ciaran Whelan was "Whelo" etc. This element of Dublin sporting dialect has spilt over into Rugby. The great Brian O'Driscoll was commonly referred to as "Dricko". Apologies if my reference to that foreign code has offended any true Gaels.
Two syllable forms ending in a broad vowel are just so chantable in a stadium and but they seem to irritate the Fíor- Ghael, who is highly sensitive to anything that appears to be an affectation of the English soccer fan. The Fíor Ghael is deeply suspicious of the Dub whom he believes to be more British than Irish so when they hear usages like 'peno' he works himself up into a lather of self-righteous indignation. What else could it be but an attempt to import the culture of English soccer into our native sport by stealth?
The Fíor Ghael if often so fixated on monitoring this blight of English/foreign influence emanating from Dublin that he fails to see how it has seeped into the culture of his own county. It must gall many Tyrone fans to know that the great Mickey Harte and his management team were highly influenced by the ideas of English rugby coach, Clive Woodward, particularly his coaching philosophy of "critical non-essentials". The poor Donegal fan may point outward at the soccer loving Dub but surely the great Jim McGuinness must have learned a lot from being part of soccer coaching set ups in Scotland, China and the US.
If circumstances permit, the next time I'm on the Hill I'll be sure to clearly enunciate each syllable of the English word PENALTY lest I rouse the suspicions of any vigilant Gael."
Alive alive O….

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 5239 - 03/07/2026 19:45:47    2684045

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Replying To avonali:  "Dublinese dialect 101.
Many Dubs put an "o" after the first syllable of the noun, particularly the proper noun.
For example, Stephen can become "Steo", "Cluxton" becomes "Clucko" while "Fenton" is fondly referred to by fans and team mates as "Fento', Ciaran Whelan was "Whelo" etc. This element of Dublin sporting dialect has spilt over into Rugby. The great Brian O'Driscoll was commonly referred to as "Dricko". Apologies if my reference to that foreign code has offended any true Gaels.
Two syllable forms ending in a broad vowel are just so chantable in a stadium and but they seem to irritate the Fíor- Ghael, who is highly sensitive to anything that appears to be an affectation of the English soccer fan. The Fíor Ghael is deeply suspicious of the Dub whom he believes to be more British than Irish so when they hear usages like 'peno' he works himself up into a lather of self-righteous indignation. What else could it be but an attempt to import the culture of English soccer into our native sport by stealth?
The Fíor Ghael if often so fixated on monitoring this blight of English/foreign influence emanating from Dublin that he fails to see how it has seeped into the culture of his own county. It must gall many Tyrone fans to know that the great Mickey Harte and his management team were highly influenced by the ideas of English rugby coach, Clive Woodward, particularly his coaching philosophy of "critical non-essentials". The poor Donegal fan may point outward at the soccer loving Dub but surely the great Jim McGuinness must have learned a lot from being part of soccer coaching set ups in Scotland, China and the US.
If circumstances permit, the next time I'm on the Hill I'll be sure to clearly enunciate each syllable of the English word PENALTY lest I rouse the suspicions of any vigilant Gael."
Superbo Dublinese lol.
Every county have their own accents and pronounciations like Connaught have the "Wesht".
Funny that we pronounce Tyrone like Tie Rone.
Tyrone themselves pronounce it "Throne" which is very apt.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 765 - 03/07/2026 20:11:16    2684051

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Replying To brayballer:  "
Replying To avonali:  "<b>Dublinese dialect 101.</b> Many Dubs put an "o" after the first syllable of the noun, particularly the proper noun. For example, Stephen can become "Steo", "Cluxton" becomes "Clucko" while "Fenton" is fondly referred to by fans and team mates as "Fento', Ciaran Whelan was "Whelo" etc. This element of Dublin sporting dialect has spilt over into Rugby. The great Brian O'Driscoll was commonly referred to as "Dricko". Apologies if my reference to that foreign code has offended any true Gaels. Two syllable forms ending in a broad vowel are just so chantable in a stadium and but they seem to irritate the Fíor- Ghael, who is highly sensitive to anything that appears to be an affectation of the English soccer fan. The Fíor Ghael is deeply suspicious of the Dub whom he believes to be more British than Irish so when they hear usages like 'peno' he works himself up into a lather of self-righteous indignation. What else could it be but an attempt to import the culture of English soccer into our native sport by stealth? The Fíor Ghael if often so fixated on monitoring this blight of English/foreign influence emanating from Dublin that he fails to see how it has seeped into the culture of his own county. It must gall many Tyrone fans to know that the great Mickey Harte and his management team were highly influenced by the ideas of English rugby coach, Clive Woodward, particularly his coaching philosophy of "critical non-essentials". The poor Donegal fan may point outward at the soccer loving Dub but surely the great Jim McGuinness must have learned a lot from being part of soccer coaching set ups in Scotland, China and the US. If circumstances permit, the next time I'm on the Hill I'll be sure to clearly enunciate each syllable of the English word PENALTY lest I rouse the suspicions of any vigilant Gael."</div>Superbo Dublinese lol. Every county have their own accents and pronounciations like Connaught have the "Wesht". Funny that we pronounce Tyrone like Tie Rone. Tyrone themselves pronounce it "Throne" which is very apt."
A lot of Kerry folk say Kirra...

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2081 - 04/07/2026 14:02:46    2684135

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Replying To Fionn:  "
Replying To avonali:  "<b>Dublinese dialect 101.</b> Many Dubs put an "o" after the first syllable of the noun, particularly the proper noun. For example, Stephen can become "Steo", "Cluxton" becomes "Clucko" while "Fenton" is fondly referred to by fans and team mates as "Fento', Ciaran Whelan was "Whelo" etc. This element of Dublin sporting dialect has spilt over into Rugby. The great Brian O'Driscoll was commonly referred to as "Dricko". Apologies if my reference to that foreign code has offended any true Gaels. Two syllable forms ending in a broad vowel are just so chantable in a stadium and but they seem to irritate the Fíor- Ghael, who is highly sensitive to anything that appears to be an affectation of the English soccer fan. The Fíor Ghael is deeply suspicious of the Dub whom he believes to be more British than Irish so when they hear usages like 'peno' he works himself up into a lather of self-righteous indignation. What else could it be but an attempt to import the culture of English soccer into our native sport by stealth? The Fíor Ghael if often so fixated on monitoring this blight of English/foreign influence emanating from Dublin that he fails to see how it has seeped into the culture of his own county. It must gall many Tyrone fans to know that the great Mickey Harte and his management team were highly influenced by the ideas of English rugby coach, Clive Woodward, particularly his coaching philosophy of "critical non-essentials". The poor Donegal fan may point outward at the soccer loving Dub but surely the great Jim McGuinness must have learned a lot from being part of soccer coaching set ups in Scotland, China and the US. If circumstances permit, the next time I'm on the Hill I'll be sure to clearly enunciate each syllable of the English word PENALTY lest I rouse the suspicions of any vigilant Gael."</div>Alive alive O…."
Saw what you did there..

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2081 - 04/07/2026 15:23:38    2684160

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Replying To avonali:  "
Replying To Fionn:  "[quote=avonali:  "<b>Dublinese dialect 101.</b> Many Dubs put an "o" after the first syllable of the noun, particularly the proper noun. For example, Stephen can become "Steo", "Cluxton" becomes "Clucko" while "Fenton" is fondly referred to by fans and team mates as "Fento', Ciaran Whelan was "Whelo" etc. This element of Dublin sporting dialect has spilt over into Rugby. The great Brian O'Driscoll was commonly referred to as "Dricko". Apologies if my reference to that foreign code has offended any true Gaels. Two syllable forms ending in a broad vowel are just so chantable in a stadium and but they seem to irritate the Fíor- Ghael, who is highly sensitive to anything that appears to be an affectation of the English soccer fan. The Fíor Ghael is deeply suspicious of the Dub whom he believes to be more British than Irish so when they hear usages like 'peno' he works himself up into a lather of self-righteous indignation. What else could it be but an attempt to import the culture of English soccer into our native sport by stealth? The Fíor Ghael if often so fixated on monitoring this blight of English/foreign influence emanating from Dublin that he fails to see how it has seeped into the culture of his own county. It must gall many Tyrone fans to know that the great Mickey Harte and his management team were highly influenced by the ideas of English rugby coach, Clive Woodward, particularly his coaching philosophy of "critical non-essentials". The poor Donegal fan may point outward at the soccer loving Dub but surely the great Jim McGuinness must have learned a lot from being part of soccer coaching set ups in Scotland, China and the US. If circumstances permit, the next time I'm on the Hill I'll be sure to clearly enunciate each syllable of the English word PENALTY lest I rouse the suspicions of any vigilant Gael."</div>Alive alive O…."
Saw what you did there.."]I honestly dont think DC is the GOAT.
Not even the best player from Kerry of all time.
Yea, he is excellent but not the best ever.
He will be 28 in January. Now reaching his peak.

After watching Kobe yesterday, he has a higher ceiling imo.
18 years old.
What a talent.
Fielding, passing, football brain, vision, tracking back, scoring.
He has it all.
What level will he be at in 10years….????
A superstar in the making.
Definitely Young Player of the Year and an All Star.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 5239 - 12/07/2026 23:51:17    2685503

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Could Cliffird best TJ Reid scoring record with two pointers,?

hlynch12 (Limerick) - Posts: 250 - 14/07/2026 22:19:10    2685794

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Replying To TommyBermingham:  "Will be first footballer to win 10 AI medals at inter county level."
This is aging well….!
lol
He and his team are still trying to win back2back…
He has hell of a long way to go…!

Hope yourself and the other poster are ok.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 5239 - 29/07/2026 11:31:44    2687963

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Replying To Fionn:  "This is aging well….!
lol
He and his team are still trying to win back2back…
He has hell of a long way to go…!

Hope yourself and the other poster are ok."
David and Paudie emerge with reputations enhanced after Sunday.

The sobering thought for Kerry people is that while David is undoubtedly cementing his reputation as one of the greats, that he is playing on a team that without the brothers and a few others is mediocre. Take them away and Mayo would have hammered them.

I'd include Tom Sullivan among the really good players but injuries caught up with him when he was motoring well enough on Sunday and had to be pulled.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4521 - 29/07/2026 13:49:27    2687997

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Id honestly prefer 6 scoring forwards playing with variance then doing what Kerry do or what Clifford brings.

As nice as it is to watch and as good as he is at it, its telegraphed and one dimensional on a team, over all i think its undermining.

From that point of view i wouldn't have him in the conversation.

Good player though.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4540 - 29/07/2026 13:58:00    2688003

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "David and Paudie emerge with reputations enhanced after Sunday.

The sobering thought for Kerry people is that while David is undoubtedly cementing his reputation as one of the greats, that he is playing on a team that without the brothers and a few others is mediocre. Take them away and Mayo would have hammered them.

I'd include Tom Sullivan among the really good players but injuries caught up with him when he was motoring well enough on Sunday and had to be pulled."
Yes and a bad injury to either, and Kerry could be in bother next season or any season.

The age profile of that team is creeping up also.

As I posted previously, with the new rules, is a younger age profile like Mayo's for example, the blueprint going forward.? Only time will tell.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 5239 - 29/07/2026 14:00:07    2688004

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "David and Paudie emerge with reputations enhanced after Sunday.

The sobering thought for Kerry people is that while David is undoubtedly cementing his reputation as one of the greats, that he is playing on a team that without the brothers and a few others is mediocre. Take them away and Mayo would have hammered them.

I'd include Tom Sullivan among the really good players but injuries caught up with him when he was motoring well enough on Sunday and had to be pulled."
Divid didn't enhance and reputation sunday. Second half was a poor display from one for the best in the game. When was needed most to lead he just stood up and watched. No work rate.

Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 405 - 29/07/2026 14:01:43    2688005

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "David and Paudie emerge with reputations enhanced after Sunday.

The sobering thought for Kerry people is that while David is undoubtedly cementing his reputation as one of the greats, that he is playing on a team that without the brothers and a few others is mediocre. Take them away and Mayo would have hammered them.

I'd include Tom Sullivan among the really good players but injuries caught up with him when he was motoring well enough on Sunday and had to be pulled."
I agree with a lot of what you say, but I also think it's possible that Kerry have just become too reliant on the Cliffords, at the expense of others showing what they can do. When you have an inside forward as good as David, the temptation is to play him every time, especially in the bigger games against better opposition. Some people will say they didn't play him enough on Sunday, but he actually got a lot of ball. He had to recycle quite a lot of it as he was double-marked and had very little space. David will generally always take the right option and if there isn't a shot on, he'll look for a pass.
How much ball did Dylan Geaney get? It must have been in single figures. He's a very classy forward and far from mediocre, but had two poor outings in the semi and final. That's obviously on him, but I also don't think he got too many opportunities. As an inside forward, you're relying on ball being played in. Especially someone like him, who's an excellent shooter. Something similar happened in the 2022 final when Paul Geaney was whipped off at half-time. He had missed a few shots, but generally hadn't gotten much ball. It wasn't mentioned much because Kerry won on the day and we had a shootout between Walsh and Clifford.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2978 - 29/07/2026 14:01:49    2688006

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