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Munster championship is way ahead of Leinster at all grades at this time..am I right in saying that in one of grades in Leinster there was controversy because a county managed more points than one of the so called stronger teams but didn't qualify for knock out in Leinster.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2702 - 29/06/2026 14:06:45 2682877 Link 0 |
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That was westmeath in the minor. Mad system. Im not even sure how it works tbh.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 650 - 29/06/2026 15:12:47 2682922 Link 0 |
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Yes but there is a huge campaign for change being pushed atm by media and leinster counties. If what you proposed became a reality they would want it for Senior too and have precedent to rely on.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 650 - 29/06/2026 15:14:54 2682923 Link 0 |
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It wouldnt stop there and they would have precedent.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 650 - 29/06/2026 15:15:46 2682925 Link 0 |
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Times change though, particularly in KK and Galway at underage.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 650 - 29/06/2026 15:19:36 2682927 Link 0 |
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You obviously don't follow underage hurling very closely. Or schools hurling. And are basing what you are saying on the result of the Cork v Kilkenny and Limerick v Galway minor games. And the u20 AI final, when Galway lost to the best u20 team in the country, not helped by starting lads with grade 2 hamstring tears, Killeen, and bad ankles, Niland. They were also missing their best back, Sean Murphy, who went off injured against us and missed the rest of the intercounty season. Kilkenny were the beneficiaries of a stupid system adopted here in Leinster this year at minor. They only won 2 games all year, and only 1 in the group stage. Westmeath went out after winning 2 games. Kierans were so poor at Leinster Junior A this year they finished last in their group after losing both their games to 2 different Wexford schools in the group stage. The other games between teams from the 2 provinces at minor this year were much closer. We shouldve beaten what was a pretty poor Cork team but threw it away in the last 5 minutes conceding 2 really poor goals. The same Cork team we beat comfortably at u16A in the Eugene Carey Cup last year. Dublin only lost by the puck of a ball also, to Clare. Both preliminary QF games in a Munster venue as usual. Limerick did improve game on game, and gave a Galway side who didnt turn up on the day a good beating in the SF, but at the same time maybe Limerick were lucky to make the AI series at all, they lost 3 times in Munster this year. Westmeath only lost once in Leinster, and were gone. At u20 Clare were the standout team from either Province, as you would expect being as they won the AI minor title 3 years ago. We played Munster counties 5 times this year at u20, and won 4 of them. The only Munster county who beat us this year down at their place, Cork, we beat up here in Wexford in the other game we played against them. Suppose home advantage counts for something, although we were missing a few players down in Cork also. We beat all the other Munster counties every time we played them, but we didnt play Clare. And as regards Senior schools hurling the 2 finalists in the Croke Cup were from Kilkenny and Galway, as has been the case in 3 of the last 4 years. So in summary, I dont think its true to say "Munster championship is way ahead of Leinster at all grades at this time". What is true is that Clare were ahead of everyone at u20 this year, and deservedly won the AI title, and Limerick showed guts to win the AI minor title, despite losing 3 times in their province. And Westmeath were definitely the hardest done by county, they won 4 of their 5 games in Leinster with an aggregate score difference of plus 30, yet never made a Leinster SF or the AI series. And what's especially true this year is that Cork and Limerick are ahead of everyone else at Senior. Thats not to say both will definitely win next weekend, but if either dont it will be a huge shock. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20134 - 29/06/2026 16:44:40 2682957 Link 1 |
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I dont want that at Senior as such. What I want at Senior is something like there is in Football. I want more hurling games than 7 games in the whole last two thirds of the Championship part of the intercounty season. The round robins are finished in a little over a month. Then there are only 7 games total of top tier hurling in the last 2 months of the intercounty window.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20134 - 29/06/2026 17:01:04 2682966 Link 0 |
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"It's fairly obvious Munster teams are stronger at the moment" There's some nonsense being posted about this. On what basis are you saying all 5 Munster counties are better than every Leinster county at all grades underage? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20134 - 29/06/2026 17:09:28 2682969 Link 0 |
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It was a ridiculous system.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20134 - 29/06/2026 17:10:29 2682971 Link 0 |
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There are only so many games you can have in a 11 team competition! The AI is between 6 teams Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 694 - 29/06/2026 17:24:09 2682977 Link 0 |
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We should do like Football, less games in wintery conditions and more in summer conditions. If that means running an AI Championship with round robins, and running the Provincial Championships as straight knockout, then so be it. It would also mean the Leinster Championship could go back to being a Championship for counties from Leinster. And furthermore it would mean more inter Provincial championship games, which might help raise the standard in the Leinster counties, though I do realise it will likely mean a few bad beatings in the initial years. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20134 - 29/06/2026 17:38:00 2682990 Link 0 |
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Some nonsense is right lad. I suppose the basis is that in every championship match in 2026 that it has been Munster opposition vs Leinster opposition- AT ALL GRADES, the Munster team has been victorious. Would that be a fair enough basis to judge it?? Unfortunately for yourself, the results of challenge matches early in the year don't go towards progressing in the championship, nor do a Wexford school beating Kieran's in a Junior A school match!! If you concede 2 goals late in a match and those 2 goals result in the opposing team being ahead at full time, that again unfortunately means a loss and you are eliminated. Nonsense is the perfect word to sum it up… ;-) Goreylad1985 (Wexford) - Posts: 57 - 29/06/2026 19:41:58 2683029 Link 0 |
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So all 5 Munster counties are better than all the Leinster counties as has been suggested on this thread despite the fact that a load of them never played eachother? And if some of them that did play eachother played again the result could go the other way being as there was only the puck of a ball between them in the first place. I dont think that that means all the Munster counties are better than all the Leinster counties. Either at minor or u20. The best Munster counties were better than the best Leinster counties in one off games played in Munster is all that means Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20134 - 29/06/2026 20:10:56 2683035 Link 0 |
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Cork V Limerick in final 3 weeks time. TommyBermingham (Kildare) - Posts: 23 - 29/06/2026 20:18:05 2683039 Link 0 |
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Just look at the winners of underage for the last decade and Munster is dominating. All 5 aren't better every year but something needs to be done to improve Leinster and my suggestion is putting them all in 1 group and they play 9 games before they go to knockou Wouldn't Wexford 16 and 17 year olds be a lot better playing 9 round robin against quality teams? It's only a suggestion, I'm on the right side of the draw on Munster but I would love to see a Wexford or a Dublin or Offaly again winning a minor- hurling needs it.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 962 - 29/06/2026 21:00:03 2683044 Link 0 |
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Agree with all that
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20134 - 30/06/2026 10:02:42 2683124 Link 0 |