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Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8985 - 06/06/2025 21:22:24
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." You really yearn for the days when the Munster football championship was set up for Kerry - next you'll be pushing for direct entry for Kerry to the final again.
At different times over the past 20 years Clare, Tipp and Limerick have been better than Cork and beaten them multiple times.
You want to go back in time because Cork gave Kerry a game this year. They haven't exactly proved to be world beaters outside that 1 game
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1495 - 08/06/2025 07:47:44
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." Seeded draws are elitist. Sure why don't you put your other foot on the weaker counties heads?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16508 - 08/06/2025 08:42:41
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." 'Ranked'. Using that criteria they should just seed the All Ireland based on the league, where teams are at different levels because of players available and resources including available pitches in bad weather. Then pick the two top seeds to play in the final and forget about a championship. Who would 'benefit' if that was the case? Seeding is a joke because it makes the stronger counties stronger and the so- called weaker counties weaker. How many more chances do the stronger counties need to be playing a higher standard of football in a cut-down All Ireland Championship while so-called weaker counties play a poorer standard of football in a Small Ireland Championship?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8156 - 08/06/2025 08:51:11
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." at least the minnows in Munster are still fielding in football. Look at the disrespect kerry have shown to hurling over the years. only a hobby down there. Probably have the hurling club championship played off to have a free run of the football,
CorkAllIrelandChampions2016 (Cork) - Posts: 4 - 04/07/2025 22:41:27
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." So you want a seeded draw again? So that is how you go about improving the football standard in four hurling counties? Good luck in getting the best players out. Kerry hurling is been impeded by not allowed in the Munster championship.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3127 - 06/07/2025 23:39:14
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." I think the Kerry view on this rinks of arrogance and is very self serving. God forbid other Munster counties might see ourselves as equals and shame on us for not ensuring that the people of Kerry and Cork get their day out in a "Proper Provincial Final" every year.
Lets be clear, what you are really saying is Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to Kerry.
I would argue that that getting to the Provincial Final for Clare the last few years has a huge benefit to them, in terms of Football Development and raising the profile of football in the County, Similarly when Tipperary beat Cork in the Munster Final a few years ago this was massive for Tipperary Football.
LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 187 - 07/07/2025 11:14:22
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." You neglect to mention that Sligo could have beaten eventual all Ireland finalists Galway last year, only beat them with a last minute goal.
boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 434 - 07/07/2025 11:24:40
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Replying To CorkAllIrelandChampions2016: "at least the minnows in Munster are still fielding in football. Look at the disrespect kerry have shown to hurling over the years. only a hobby down there. Probably have the hurling club championship played off to have a free run of the football," I dont think this topic is gong as well as he had hoped... lol
Very self serving - nothing new there... ;o)
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4446 - 07/07/2025 11:39:54
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I have an idea. Put Kerry in the Ulster Championship and cut their titles by 75%.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 694 - 07/07/2025 12:02:10
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." Sure why not just have the Championship for 8 or 9 teams altogether so.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16508 - 07/07/2025 12:29:39
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We all know Kerry yearn for the days when the other Munster counties wouldn't even bother to tog out in a semi final and just leave them to play Cork in a Munster final. The league split over two years so they could play your own club championship in April and May , beat Cork in June (2 out of 3 years) and off up Croker to play weak Ulster teams (who were busy fighting for civil rights) or Connacht teams (who were emigrating like no tomorrow).
Oh for the Golden years of Kerry, two tough matches a year and SAM back in Kerry every September.
Kerry and Cork have always wanted a seeded Munster championship. The other counties once lined the idea of playing each other before facing the big two, but realised the best way to promote the game was an open draw and a fair shot at winning the thing (only one shock result needed per season instead of two).
The reality is that Munster football would be better served overall by having a round robin with two groups with semis and finals (Cork, Kerry, Clare) (Limerick, Tipp, Waterford). Giving each county a guarantee home match every season and 4 games to win the title.
The current set up does no one a favour (except a once off win by Tipp during COVID)
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1495 - 07/07/2025 13:10:50
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Replying To ORIELMAN85: "I have an idea. Put Kerry in the Ulster Championship and cut their titles by 75%." Nice one and good idea but maybe put them in Connaught and Mayo and Galway would nt be too happy. Then sure stick the Dubs in Ulster and there would be some moaning and whinging then from Donegal.If Dubs were in Ulster Donegal would never even win an Ulster and Tyrone and Armagh might not have won any All Irelands. I dont think Monaghan would like Dubs in Ulster either bud.
brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 197 - 07/07/2025 13:52:55
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I haven't seen such disrespect and entitlement attitude in a while. Do you understand the basis of GAA at all or what these other counties aspire too. Why would Kerry have any right over any other county. I think you believe too much from watching that Hell for Leather stuff
ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 591 - 07/07/2025 14:12:34
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." You won't get any argument about Kerry v Cork arguably being one of the best games, because with the glut of games to attend and watch, it's likely that very few saw it outside of the participating counties, and they're likely to need less convincing.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4298 - 07/07/2025 14:58:15
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Replying To legendzxix: "Munster counties ranked as following after the Allianz league:
1. Kerry
2. Cork
3. Clare
4. Limerick
5. Tipperary
6. Waterford
The footballers of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford have demanded a lopsided Munster draw so that they can have easy access to a Munster final. Clare have made three Munster finals with threatening to win. Clare have made the All Ireland championship three years in a row. They are yet to win a game!!!
How long more a the GAA going to facilitate this lopsided draw policy?
There were three proper provincial finals this year. Cork v Kerry was arguably one of the best provincial clashes this year. Should have been the proper Munster final.
Clare should be in the Tailteann Cup. Limerick won their group and are having a good summer.
Sligo beating London and New York to make a Connacht final was also ridiculous. Mayo, Galway and Roscommon had finished top 3 in Division 1!!! Lopsided provincial finals are of no benefit to anyone." Rubbish post. Not worth replying to beyond that.
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2331 - 07/07/2025 14:59:45
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "We all know Kerry yearn for the days when the other Munster counties wouldn't even bother to tog out in a semi final and just leave them to play Cork in a Munster final. The league split over two years so they could play your own club championship in April and May , beat Cork in June (2 out of 3 years) and off up Croker to play weak Ulster teams (who were busy fighting for civil rights) or Connacht teams (who were emigrating like no tomorrow).
Oh for the Golden years of Kerry, two tough matches a year and SAM back in Kerry every September.
Kerry and Cork have always wanted a seeded Munster championship. The other counties once lined the idea of playing each other before facing the big two, but realised the best way to promote the game was an open draw and a fair shot at winning the thing (only one shock result needed per season instead of two).
The reality is that Munster football would be better served overall by having a round robin with two groups with semis and finals (Cork, Kerry, Clare) (Limerick, Tipp, Waterford). Giving each county a guarantee home match every season and 4 games to win the title.
The current set up does no one a favour (except a once off win by Tipp during COVID)" There'd be no chance of an upset then.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16508 - 07/07/2025 15:20:12
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "We all know Kerry yearn for the days when the other Munster counties wouldn't even bother to tog out in a semi final and just leave them to play Cork in a Munster final. The league split over two years so they could play your own club championship in April and May , beat Cork in June (2 out of 3 years) and off up Croker to play weak Ulster teams (who were busy fighting for civil rights) or Connacht teams (who were emigrating like no tomorrow).
Oh for the Golden years of Kerry, two tough matches a year and SAM back in Kerry every September.
Kerry and Cork have always wanted a seeded Munster championship. The other counties once lined the idea of playing each other before facing the big two, but realised the best way to promote the game was an open draw and a fair shot at winning the thing (only one shock result needed per season instead of two).
The reality is that Munster football would be better served overall by having a round robin with two groups with semis and finals (Cork, Kerry, Clare) (Limerick, Tipp, Waterford). Giving each county a guarantee home match every season and 4 games to win the title.
The current set up does no one a favour (except a once off win by Tipp during COVID)" There'd be no chance of an upset then.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16508 - 07/07/2025 15:20:21
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Replying To brayballer: "Nice one and good idea but maybe put them in Connaught and Mayo and Galway would nt be too happy. Then sure stick the Dubs in Ulster and there would be some moaning and whinging then from Donegal.If Dubs were in Ulster Donegal would never even win an Ulster and Tyrone and Armagh might not have won any All Irelands. I dont think Monaghan would like Dubs in Ulster either bud." Heard the Dubs want Louth and Meath out of Leinster.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 694 - 07/07/2025 16:00:51
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Replying To ORIELMAN85: "Heard the Dubs want Louth and Meath out of Leinster." No Bud we are not whingers. Louth? well done on Leinster but Louth have nt beaten Dublin in a hundred years. Meath? well done to them this year and I d like to see them win it now but Dubs will be back.
brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 197 - 07/07/2025 16:35:03
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