Bon..as regards your comment...it may be in a bad way in the club scene but I stand by my point bringing in outside players will nit solve anything. Maybe if these players joined clubs in kildare , that might help but the present situation coming up for matches and going home again and leaving the rest of kildare to deal with the mess isnt fair. Kildare has just as much clubs as offaly or meath and definitely more than carlow or westmeath or kerry and these counties are the way to improving. Plus the fact 99 percent of the players in these counties are natives bar one or two exceptions

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 803 - 23/01/2017 09:03:48    1947955

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 23/01/2017 10:47:17    1948003

I don't really agree that bringing in 5 players is a good idea. Richie Ryan doesn't count. He's living in Naas and transferred so I wouldn't count him as an outsider.

The problem here is with the county board. Why in the hell would lads commit to playing hurling for Kildare when they are treated with nothing but disregard and contempt.

Here is a good example of the above......

Kildare played Offaly in the Walsh cup on Sunday at 2 pm. They were shunted to the centre of excellence in Hawkfield rather than play in the main county ground of St. Conleths. That's a joke. Why was a double header not considered.

Hurling a club isn't that bad to be fair. On average per year you could have Confey,Ardclough,Coill Dubh,Naas,Eire Og and Celbridge competing to win the SHC.

That's competitive by anyones standard.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 23/01/2017 10:55:15    1948007

To be honest I feel its a bad step. The counties who have done it before have
never really benefited from it.

There is also an unfairness to northern counties like Down and Derry who
compete in the Christy Ring but never have outside players.

If players were living in the county, then fine but for me its against the
spirit of the competitions.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1537 - 23/01/2017 11:11:55    1948020

I'll answer my own question I posted earlier. What are the rules?

The relevant rules pertaining to this discussion can be found in Chapter 6 - 6.3 Definitions and 6.6 Inter-County Transfers

http://www.gaa.ie/mm/Document/TheGAA/RulesandRegulations/12/66/55/2016OfficialGuide-Part1_English.pdf

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2775 - 23/01/2017 15:16:22    1948117

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2322 - 23/01/2017 18:40:36    1948185

How many 'outside' players are you allowed in the Christy Ring? It's 5 in the Meagher & Rackard Cups. 3 should be maximum.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 23/01/2017 19:01:40    1948190

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 24/01/2017 09:36:50    1948320

Scallioneater (Carlow) - Posts: 294 - 24/01/2017 20:25:16    1948555

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 25/01/2017 10:55:54    1948643

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 25/01/2017 10:57:57    1948645

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 25/01/2017 14:57:44    1948728

Playing Membership Requirements
(a) A player must be a registered Full Member or Youth
Member of a Club and the Association.
(b) A player may not be a member of a Club for which
he is ineligible to play.
(c) Infractions and Penalties:
(i) Competing for a Club for which one is
ineligible to play within the County of one's
Own Club:
Player - 12 weeks Suspension;
Club Chairperson and Secretary - 12 weeks
suspension;
Team -
(1) On a proven Objection - Award of Game
to the Opposing Team,
(2) On an Inquiry by the Committee-inCharge
- Forfeiture of Game without
Award of Game to the Opposing Team, or
Fine, depending on the circumstances.
(ii) Competing for a Club for which one is
ineligible to play outside the County of one's
Own Club:
Player - 48 weeks suspension;
Club Chairperson and Secretary - 48 weeks
suspension;
Team: as above.
(iii) Competing for a County for which one is
ineligible to play:
Player - 48 weeks suspension.
County Chairperson and Secretary - 48 weeks.
suspension.
Team - As in (i) and (ii) above.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 25/01/2017 15:24:08    1948740

6.3 Definitions
First County: the County in which a Player's First Club (or
Club within an Independent Team) is located.
Own County: the County in which a player's Own Club
(non-College) is based.
First Club: the Club (or Club within an Independent
Team) with which a player first legally (i.e. in accordance
with Rule and Bye-Law) participated in Club competition
at Under 12 Grade or over (including Go-Games),
organised by the County Committee or one of its SubCommittees
in the County of his permanent residence,
subject to that participation being at an age not more than
two years younger than the designated age level of the
competition.
Own Club: the Club (non-College) of which an individual
is currently a playing member.
Catchment Area: An area determined by the County
Committee as representative of the hinterland of one or
more Clubs. The Boundaries of Catchment Areas may be
determined by reference to Parishes (subject to County
Boundaries) or other criteria.
Permanent Residence: Unless otherwise defined in Bye
Law, a place of Permanent Residence of a person shall
be the domestic property where (by reference to actual
overnight presence, his own or his family's ownership of
or tenancy in the property, his place of non-temporary
employment, and such other factors as may be considered
appropriate) the Council or Committee assessing the
question considers his principal private residence to have
been for at least the previous month and is likely for at
least the ensuing year.
Residence for the purpose of attending a Primary or Post
Primary School or a Higher Education College shall not
qualify as a Permanent Residence for the purposes of this
Rule.
A County may deem certain states of affairs to constitute
permanent residence for the purpose of its Bye-Law.
For the purpose of applications for Inter-County Transfers,
the foregoing definition shall prevail.
Other Relevant Connection: A member shall be
considered to have an 'Other Relevant Connection':
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(a) With a particular County if:
(i) The member's parents at the time of the
member's birth were permanently resident in
that County.
(ii) That County is the County of the first Club of
either of his parents.
(b) With a Particular Club if:
(i) The Member's parents were at the time of
his birth permanently resident in the present
Catchment Area of that Club.
(ii) In the case of a player whose parents were
permanently resident in Co. Dublin at the time
of this birth, that Club was the First Club of
either of his parents.
(iii) County Bye-Laws either defined generally or for
specific cases that particular factors give rise to
such a connection.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 25/01/2017 15:24:55    1948741

6.6 Inter-County Transfers
(a) A player who wishes to join a Club in another County
must apply for a transfer to the Provincial or Central
Council, as appropriate.
An application for Transfer may be made 'online' in
a pilot scheme approved by the Central Council.
(b) Such application shall not be granted unless the
player is in permanent residence in the new County.
Exceptions:
(i) A player who permanently resides outside
his First County and wishes to transfer from
his current Own Club to his First Club or to
the Club (or its successor) of which he was a
playing member immediately prior to leaving
his First County, may so transfer provided he
has not played in a Competition for the first
time with his Own Club after January 1st.
(ii) A player who has 'Other Relevant Connection'
With a Particular Club (i), as defined in subsection(b)
of Rule 6.3.
(iii) A player who has 'Other Relevant Connection'
With a Particular Club (ii), (as defined in
sub-section (b) of Rule 6.3, subject to the Club
he is transferring to is in a County allowed
Chapter 6 GA
MES &
COMPETITIONS
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by Central Council to avail of this provision,
and sanction for the Transfer is given by the
Dublin County Committee (see Appendix 4).
A player who avails of an Exception above may not
thereafter declare for a Club in another County.
(c) A player whose permanent residence in a County,
other than his First County, is terminated, shall not
be entitled to commence a new Competition in that
County.
(d) An Inter-County transfer is a transfer from one
County to another County for Club purposes. A
Player so transferred must satisfy the requirements
of the new County's Bye Laws as regards the Club he
joins.
(e) Subject to Sub-rule (b) of this Rule, the application
shall be granted if there is no objection from the
Club or County the player is leaving within ten days
of the forwarding of the application to the County
by the Central Council or Provincial Council, as
appropriate
(f) Where an objection is lodged by the County the
player is leaving, it too shall be entitled to have its
submission considered and, on appeal, to make
submissions.
(g) An appeal against a decision on an Inter-County
Transfer application may be made to the Central
Appeals Committee. Such appeal shall conform to
the formalities outlined in Rule 7.11 - Appeals, save
that the period allowed for an Appeal shall be three
working days..
(h) An Inter-County Transfer involves transfer for all
codes and activities at Club level.
(i) A player who transfers from one County to another
County, and within 96 weeks thereafter transfers
back to the former County, shall rejoin the Club of
which he was a member prior to the initial transfer.
(j) A Transfer becomes effective:
- On the expiry of the period allowed for an
Appeal against the decision on the Transfer
application or, if an Appeal is submitted, on the
making of a decision on the Appeal
and
- On Rule 2.3 being subsequently complied with.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 25/01/2017 15:25:39    1948742

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 25/01/2017 17:09:39    1948761