Interesting debate on joe.ie gaa podcast re who is more "marquee" , Bernard Brogan or Cillian O'Connor. Thought be interesting to ask the HS troop their opinions. Personally I think COC is a fine player and a pretty dependant free taker but..... Not in Brogans league. But thats just me!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 12/08/2016 20:02:44    1900405

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 12/08/2016 20:18:04    1900410

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 12/08/2016 20:19:52    1900412

Well I'm biased obviously but are you saying that people are actually debating this? No contest, the two footed gentleman all day long. Cillian is a decent footballer but there are those that have won 10 provincials, 3 AIs and 4 all-stars and there are those that have not. Cillian is young though so has time on his side but Bernard is a legend. Big gap to bridge for the Mayo lad.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4745 - 12/08/2016 20:27:44    1900417

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 12/08/2016 20:30:19    1900419

cillian O'Conor is a very good footballer, would love to have him here in Kerry as we are badly missing a player like him. Bernard brogan is different class though, and will go down as one of the greats. He's a real big game player too, how many times has he been the difference for Dublin in big games! No contest at the moment, but O'Connor has time to improve I suppose.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 12/08/2016 21:01:50    1900428

Brogan all day long.

Jackos_Wacko (Kerry) - Posts: 417 - 12/08/2016 21:22:27    1900436

When it comes to big games, The ones that matter the most, Bernard Brogan well and truly destroys COC. Kerry 2013 and Mayo in the final that year to name just two, But Cork 2010 aswell. He is absolutely immense. He can maybe go through the motions during a lot of games, But rest assured if there is one player in a Dublin jersey over the years that you can put your life on playing out of his skin when it matters, Its Bernard. But COC is a super footballer too.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 12/08/2016 22:09:35    1900450

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 12/08/2016 22:12:37    1900452

This season neither, Dublin had a soft Leinster champ and Mayo haven't hit form at all this year so it's hard to choose, the 2 semis and maybe the final will show but it's still hard to mark a 2 footed player but based on last years drawn game Bernard didn't get anything v Chris Barrett, the only score he got from play while Barrett was on the pitch was when Barrett and another Mayo player swapped opponents and Bernard scored. When Barrett was taken off Bernard had a field day kicking points for fun. Mayo showed how important Cilllian was and is when he clashed heads with AOS v Kerry in Limerick, he wasn't himself after that, when Cillian plays poorly Mayo play poorly

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 12/08/2016 22:19:47    1900454

DLlegends (Donegal) - Posts: 503 - 12/08/2016 22:24:42    1900459

Right now I'd take Cillian.

He's got youth on his side, how good was Brogan when he was Cillian's age.

O'Connor is an immense player and I think he'll get better.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13803 - 12/08/2016 22:34:00    1900464

Cillian O'Connor a brilliant footballer but Brogan is different class even now. Cillian could reach that level some day though

RoscoMan (Roscommon) - Posts: 80 - 12/08/2016 22:41:52    1900468

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 12/08/2016 22:52:19    1900471

Brogan is class but as a Mayo fan, I wouldn't swap Cillian for him. He's just too important to us.

Despite what some people say, Cillian always turns up on the big occasion. Just look at his record in our 4 semi finals over the last 2 years. He's had a quiet year in 2016, but last Saturday he again turned up when he was needed most, 3 from play and impeccable from frees.

I just think when you take into account his free taking, the likes of Kerry and Tyrone would pick him over Brogan.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 458 - 12/08/2016 23:58:37    1900483

Brogan but very unfair comparison. Cillian is only just gone 23...who was comparing brogan to a great at that age? Two different players anyway. Cillian an expert free taker who can improve from play. Brogan from play is lethal and already a legend. Cillian has another 10 years ahead of he stays injury free.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11587 - 13/08/2016 01:13:17    1900488

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2093 - 13/08/2016 08:10:34    1900499

Right now and for what achieved,Brogan by a distance.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 13/08/2016 09:53:46    1900515

Can I just clarify here, I am repeating a discussion from Joe.ie sports podcast. I didn't come up with the comparison, Wooly etc did.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 13/08/2016 10:04:50    1900519

I think if you are looking at the two on this year alone I would pick Cillian. If you take Donegal game as example and this was not a once off either Bernard struggles to compete with top defenders these last couple years (dubs i know u'll highlight O Se last year but in fairness O Se is no longer in the same bracket as he was in his pomp). I dont think Cillian would get much change out of the top defenders either but he has that added skill and importance as freetaker. Over the years though your rarely going to get a player as good as BB an all time great. This man i dont think will be bypassed by some of todays top forwards including Cillian. He has/had that same quality as gooch/canavan where anything he touched was a score. To be fair to Cillian he has time on his side to turn into one of the greats but he's lacking the speed to be the serious threat Similar to the all time greats in my opinion.

SamT2012 (Donegal) - Posts: 66 - 13/08/2016 11:08:18    1900540