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At least one province has delivered proper football, intensity and a provencial football championship. This Roscommon Galway game is as bad as I ever saw.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 10/07/2016 15:31:50    1880063

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If that was Ulster - it would be puke ,

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 10/07/2016 15:37:25    1880067

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The standard and quality of football in Ulster is dire. Longford proved this beyond any doubt yesterday. And they are to cowardly to play hurling. Afraid of their own shadows. Cue the boo hoo always the victim brigade...

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4676 - 10/07/2016 15:40:04    1880074

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Haha come off it poor game in connaught today no doubt but conditions were woeful.
Ulster has had several poor games too
Not to mention two of their division one teams this year were toppled by the supposable cannon fodder of Leinster longford. Some good and bad games in all provinces to date.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 10/07/2016 15:45:51    1880080

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Conditions not great - but take your point, these two would learn a thing or two from the likes of Tyrone. But it was not a great game, Roscommon seem clueless and Galway are going nowhere - fast.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4958 - 10/07/2016 15:48:15    1880082

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "The standard and quality of football in Ulster is dire. Longford proved this beyond any doubt yesterday. And they are to cowardly to play hurling. Afraid of their own shadows. Cue the boo hoo always the victim brigade..."
Classy post there. Well done . You should be proud of yourself .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 10/07/2016 15:49:40    1880084

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Longford bet Monagahan after a seven day turnaround. Not many teams beat that after Monaghan had two high intense games against Donegal. The two Ulster semis have being the two beat games of the year and Down are not a powerhouse in Ulster at moment. Cavan Tyrone had conditions as bad as today so that's no excuse. Roscommon wouldn't even shoot at end with a chance to win. Pathetic.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 10/07/2016 15:50:00    1880085

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Laois were playing there thrid weekend in a row too. Teams should be used to it playing in the league week in week out.
last year we hammered monaghan in clones and a week later in croker they got within a point of Dublin so they have form of turning around dissapointing defeats In a week.
plaudits must go to longford in my book.
Most were saying they shouldn't even be competing with likes of monaghan.
Ulster powerhouse haha down were division one side this year. There has been two good games in Ulster and poor games aswell as any other province. There's two or three teams in each province most years that you would say its between at start same in ulster most would have said was between Donegal monaghan and Tyrone and worked out that way too. Cavan done well to get draw first day but hammered in replay. The other five weren't really ever going to win it if your honest

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 10/07/2016 16:24:20    1880118

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "At least one province has delivered proper football, intensity and a provencial football championship. This Roscommon Galway game is as bad as I ever saw."
I thought we are supposed to describe games like today's Connacht final as a 'fascinating tactical battle' which is much better than previous encounters when teams frequently kicked the ball? Not to mention that the fact the game ended in a draw as 'proof' that it's the most competitive province? I can't keep up at all with all this. Left to make my own judgement I'd say it was rubbish and a great example of how the sport is at great risk of destroying itself.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 10/07/2016 18:00:22    1880200

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Replying To Soma:  "I thought we are supposed to describe games like today's Connacht final as a 'fascinating tactical battle' which is much better than previous encounters when teams frequently kicked the ball? Not to mention that the fact the game ended in a draw as 'proof' that it's the most competitive province? I can't keep up at all with all this. Left to make my own judgement I'd say it was rubbish and a great example of how the sport is at great risk of destroying itself."
I like how football has evolved but even I'd admit that game was absolutely shocking.

There have been good games this year also though.

It's not all doom and gloom like some of you guys would have us believe.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4614 - 10/07/2016 19:00:27    1880277

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Whammo you may be willing to say it was shocking but would you say the same about similar games elsewhere? After all it was higher scoring than some recent provincial finals which were described as fascinating. Watching uncontested kickouts is just soul destroying in my opinion yet it's now close to being the norm.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 10/07/2016 19:13:50    1880293

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Im not sure where people are getting the notion of ulster power houses. This is not reflected in the bookmakers at the moment. I am sure when one or two ulster teams manage to get to the quarters, they will deserve to be there, but I doubt very much that it is because of ulster championship football it would rather be in spite of it imo.

Having said that, we have seen 3 great games in ulster this year. We probably will see a tense and honest battle in the final next sunday. I dont think this is going to be the case in either the leinster final nor the connaught replay. Yes there will be a few good matches too later in the year but I think that it will have more to do with the law of averages than the provincial representations.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3854 - 10/07/2016 19:22:21    1880299

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "The standard and quality of football in Ulster is dire. Longford proved this beyond any doubt yesterday. And they are to cowardly to play hurling. Afraid of their own shadows. Cue the boo hoo always the victim brigade..."
The standard of football in Ulster may be dire but it is a lot better than your English.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 10/07/2016 19:28:01    1880310

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Seems like an Ulster chip on your shoulder thread. Ulster is indeed very competitive but some of the football I have witnessed there was worse than today given the awful awful conditions in Salthill. One had to be there to appreciate this. And given ourselves and Ros are trying to progress after a few bad years they are hardly going to play 15 on 15 given that we know for fact this gets you nowhere.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1993 - 10/07/2016 19:28:29    1880312

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After watching all the games this weekend how thankful I am we have Clones to look forward to next weekend. First our minors with the lads from Derry , and then the Senior final.
This will be better than anything that ever happened on a Gaelic field You will have it all with plenty of sideline action thrown in and all.
And all the talk on here about Monaghan /down getting beat by Longford is nonsense.
Let me tell you all --Down were in Div one but things are gone a little bit astray for them. When will Longford get to Div one , when will they get to a Leinster final? It must be close on fifty years sine they were in Div one. Derry were a div one team a few years ago, same as Armagh and both those counties will be in Div one again , same as Down
All the nine Ulster counties contested an Ulster final since 2001. Tell me how many different counties have contested the Leinster final in that period. Or how many have won it. Same in Munster--- when did Tipp Waterford Clare or Limerick beat Kerry.
Clare win the Munster football in 1992,all the rest shared by Kerry /cork.
At least Connaught have a bit of variety with to my knowledge Galway Mayo Sligoand Roscommon winning football titles over the last 15 years.
So what I'm saying is Ulster football will be stronger and more competitive than the other proviences. Now no disrespect to Longford and well done on you victories but I'd say yesterday ye met A Monaghan team that were at sixes and sevens.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 10/07/2016 19:31:11    1880315

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "The standard of football in Ulster may be dire but it is a lot better than your English."
Tut tut, not worthy of you Muckross. Now take a deep breath.....

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 10/07/2016 19:38:08    1880321

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Replying To Soma:  "Whammo you may be willing to say it was shocking but would you say the same about similar games elsewhere? After all it was higher scoring than some recent provincial finals which were described as fascinating. Watching uncontested kickouts is just soul destroying in my opinion yet it's now close to being the norm."
Yeah I absolutely would.

Ulster championship 1st round was poor across the board.

The semi-final first games were excellent though.

I don't know maybe we have different expectations in how often there should be exciting games.

The better teams are starting to properly push up on kickouts, I really think the best managers are copping on that if you're going to win you need to get the balance right between attack and defence.

To be fair to Galway I think they have talented forwards but today's conditions didn't really suit them. They are a little bit lightweight up front and when they tried to play direct (didn't happen often) the ball just didn't stick enough. That slowed their game down a lot.

As for Roscommon I've watched them 3 times now this year vs Mayo in the league, and then their last 2 games. I haven't been impressed at all with them.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4614 - 10/07/2016 19:52:38    1880342

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "Tut tut, not worthy of you Muckross. Now take a deep breath....."
Anyone who puts up a post like that will be met with both barrels & I make no apology for it.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 10/07/2016 19:59:02    1880351

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Anyone who puts up a post like that will be met with both barrels & I make no apology for it."
Hold on till I'm standing behind you.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 10/07/2016 22:07:02    1880482

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spot on only competitive province

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 10/07/2016 22:47:18    1880506

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