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after the despicable refereeing we got in Limerick 2 years ago we shouldn't be apologising to anybody. We're just doing the same thing now that everybody else does. JOD did the same thing against Cork last year then you have Tiernan McCann and Philly McMahons antics. if it's okay for the other teams then it's good enough for us we've been too much the nice guys over the last 20 years centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 10/07/2016 08:31:12 1879778 Link
Ridiculous thread. Player feels contact and goes down in the box to win his team a penalty. Let's be honest if anyone on here says they wouldn't be happy if there own team did it they are talking rubbish, Goalie2016 (Mayo) - Posts: 36 - 10/07/2016 08:52:34 1879783 Link
Replying To mayo_123: "anybody see fermanagh goal i taught it was a clear foul a push in the back that was plane to be seen but not a word about it all players playing for their county will do what ever it takes to win loook at dublin tyrone donegal kerry so to me aidan o shea is no different to any of the rest that has came before win at all cost thats what gets teams over the line" I couldn't quite see the Fermanagh goal on the television, however it seemed that big Quigley just stuck his backside into the defender and out-muscled him. No foul there, unless there were some hands beforehand. biglad99 (UK) - Posts: 1 - 10/07/2016 09:21:09 1879791 Link
I trust every mayo supporter defending o'shea will not be angry if mayo lose a match this year by the same way? kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 280 - 10/07/2016 09:21:51 1879792 Link
The lad has form! http://www.balls.ie/gaa/gifs-following-michael-shields-fall-recalling-3-other-notorious-dives-in-the-gaa/302098 Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 10/07/2016 09:25:01 1879794 Link
The powers that be should be able to cite a player after a game. sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 10/07/2016 09:32:02 1879799 Link
Replying To 2setsofrules: "Good point- where is Miss Down? Your daughter is normally backing up your embarrassing posts. It is sad reply that the both of you spend so much time criticising another county after Down's annual early championship exit. Putting anti Tyrone songs on the web is certainly ''bunny boiler' material. All this from two people who have never kicked a ball in their lives!!" Obviously you really don't know what your talking about ,, as I said to you before mr you burning that bridge even bigger , move on !!!!! topdownfan (Down) - Posts: 555 - 10/07/2016 09:35:38 1879802 Link
Replying To Goalie2016: "Ridiculous thread. Player feels contact and goes down in the box to win his team a penalty. Let's be honest if anyone on here says they wouldn't be happy if there own team did it they are talking rubbish," I'm happily talking rubbish arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4958 - 10/07/2016 09:43:34 1879810 Link
Personally I think to lay the blame at AOS door is missing the point entirely. This type off win at all cost is becomimg an epidemic and creates a ugly cloud over our game. The power that be have a prime opportunity to highlight such antics, I.E Mark Anthony Mc Ginley, AOS, Conor Mc Manus and many more. Im left amazed how the GAA continuously come up with stupid rules such as The Mark and the Black Card. While some simple changes such as video referee for penalty calls or retrospective action for bringing the game into disrepute would do a hell of lot more good for the game. Personally I would be more outraged at the fact that AOS deliberately dragged a player to the ground so therefore should have received a black card while on a yellow meaning he was sent off. But hey same old GAA nothing will be done until it seriously damages the reputation of our game. Rant over. DLlegends (Donegal) - Posts: 503 - 10/07/2016 09:53:36 1879822 Link
Where are all the posters now who , two weeks ago were calling for Mark Antony mcGinley to get a lengthy ban after going down in the Donegal v Monaghan game. He never should have done it as most Dongal posters said on here The same happened last year when T McCann went performing. I must admit though Mayo got some terrible decisions given against them over the last few years but giving them that penalty yesterday was a terrible decision Maybe they should have got an earlier penalty and I did think big Q did foul the Mayo full back before he goaled. But out of all this we want to ask a few questions --- what are or when are the powers that be in the GAA going to do something about the standard of refereeing or indeed the role of the umpires / linesman Should the umpires not have had a good view of the incident leading to the penalty that was given ? Again for the Fermanagh goal , could they have not seen whether it was a foul beforehand or not Similar regarding the Mayo claims for an earlier penalty. ? And Iv being saying this for a long time , why not , in certain circumstances use video evidence if incidents are unclear. Would be better than what they usually do- consult a linesman or umpire About the game yesterday , well I think it showed that Mayo still need a full back, their young players like Coen Regan D O Connor and Durkin are finding championship fairly tough and it was interesting to see the management going back to the old timers again - A Moran and Dilliane. I thought Mayo would win the All Ireland this year but as of now they have massive questions to answer. To me Sam will lodge this year in either Dublin / Tyrone or Donegal SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 10/07/2016 10:06:34 1879830 Link
Replying To topdownfan: "Obviously you really don't know what your talking about ,, as I said to you before mr you burning that bridge even bigger , move on !!!!!" Fact- Miss Down and yourself have never kicked a ball in your lives, just 'telling it like it is.' What's all this about burning bridges sure it's only a bit of 'banter.' 2setsofrules (Down) - Posts: 99 - 10/07/2016 10:11:24 1879834 Link
Replying To waynoI: "I wouldn't have him on my team. Seriously. I think he is very over-rated. A big, strong, beast of a man, But is limited in his ability. Has no left foot, finishing is quite poor. This idea that he is a class act is all a bit of a media assembled myth in my opinion." Agreed People need to start forming their own opinion. oso (Antrim) - Posts: 168 - 10/07/2016 10:11:42 1879835 Link
Replying To Goalie2016: "Ridiculous thread. Player feels contact and goes down in the box to win his team a penalty. Let's be honest if anyone on here says they wouldn't be happy if there own team did it they are talking rubbish," Ridiculous comment. I like most posters here have watched a lot of football over the years and have never seen anything close to a dive like that near the goals before- and it was not the first dive he took. It will take a lot of dives to beat the better teams browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/07/2016 10:28:22 1879847 Link
I think most sensible posters believe that an obvious dive should get a red card and a ban for 1-2 matches. The problem with this is and we see it on soccer, some of the divers are so good at it you don't know whether or not they did get touched and they have the benefit of TV replays at every angle. Most of us also agree we have amateur referees of varying standards some good and some bad but mostly inconsistent so how can we trust them to make the correct decision. I feel it points to one thing and that's a video referee who is only used in a contentious situation like it is in rugby - and I think it works well there. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 10/07/2016 10:54:39 1879867 Link
Replying To centerfield: "after the despicable refereeing we got in Limerick 2 years ago we shouldn't be apologising to anybody. We're just doing the same thing now that everybody else does. JOD did the same thing against Cork last year then you have Tiernan McCann and Philly McMahons antics. if it's okay for the other teams then it's good enough for us we've been too much the nice guys over the last 20 years" Such rubbish . Your claiming to be the nice guys because you's didn't collect Sam . That is not the reason who didn't win it so give . Mayo are no different to any other county including my own when it comes to the dark arts . TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 10/07/2016 10:56:28 1879869 Link
The thing about taking a dive like this is that you kind of burn all your decision luck for the rest of the year in that one dive. Refs will not be buying a single thing from Oshea now this year. This will mean that the marginal decisions that are on the foul side will go against him now. I would expect refs are going to be fully aware of the diving game now and to punish its practice as much as the rules allow them to. I think that one of the big things that could be done to stamp it out is to eliminate perpetrators from all-star nominations. It really would sully a season as the dogs on the street would then know why they are not on the podium. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3854 - 10/07/2016 10:57:19 1879871 Link
Replying To Jackeen: "The lad has form! Funniest" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.balls.ie/gaa/gifs-following-michael-shields-fall-recalling-3-other-notorious-dives-in-the-gaa/302098" Funniest dive ever! Went down holding his face when there was ZERO contact to it. CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 10/07/2016 11:02:27 1879877 Link
Replying To waynoI: "There we go... Stephen Rochford: ... "If that's what people's assertions are (That AOS dived) then its the first time ive seen AOS going to ground and usually he has the help of 3 or 4 defenders to help him, so, if he's got a little bit of a break its not before time"... Silly carry on. Every incident should be judged on its own merits. Just because he may have been denied a free a couple of times or a penalty in other games does not justify him actually being awarded a soft one like in this instance." WaynoI I completely understand where Rochford is coming from on this. You can't simply say each decision can be judged on it's merits it's not the way human beings operate. We place everything in a context and use past experiences to inform and then justify our actions. Aidan O'Shea has been taught a lesson over they years by referees... If you try and play the ball honestly with 3-4 guys hanging out of you we'll give the defenders the benefit of the doubt but if you go down in a 1 v 1 where there MIGHT be enough contact you get the benefit of the doubt. All this nonsense about Aidan O'Shea's character is just that. Nonsense. I don't know the man from Adam but if he took a dive yesterday he's only behaving in a manner that the system (refereeing in this case) has taught him to... which is the most natural thing in the world. As for all this nonsense about diving being the gravest sin of all. I thought that school of thinking only prevailed in the rarefied air of the moral high ground that is "The British Sense of Fair Play"? roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 10/07/2016 11:36:06 1879896 Link
I've had a night and a copious amount of pints to think about it. I don't blame aos. He done what anyone would have, if Quigley had done it o would be building a statue of him in the middle of Enniskillen. It was instinct from ose. Felt he could get a penalty, he went down, Mayo win. It's in the past now and all Fermanagh can do is try and build for next year. Best of luck to Mayo for the rest of the championship. Fermanagh for Sam 2017 gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 10/07/2016 11:58:53 1879913 Link
Replying To CroiGorm: "Funniest dive ever! Went down holding his face when there was ZERO contact to it." Just saw this and AOS seems to do this more often than his manager cares to admit - that was embarrassing. The AOMahony one is hysterical also - it seems McQuillan seems to have form falling for these also. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 10/07/2016 12:25:52 1879940 Link