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Aidan O'Shea Diving

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Replying To yew_tree:  "
Replying To mayoaresavage:  "[quote=CroiGorm:  "Seriously?!?! That is laughable! How in God's name can that be considered 'cheating'?? Ridiculous comment

The definition of cheating: 'act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.'

Please tell me what advantage was gained by Connolly/Dublin? The only team that gained an advantage from that iincident was Mayo."
So are you telling me what O'Shea done was worse than what Connolly done? I just don't understand the abuse O'shea is getting when we all know far worse goes on on football pitches"
Cheating is looked upon with more scorn than thuggery. Look it goes on, it has gone on and will go on. I don't think you can wipe it out completely but proper punishment must be there for those who are caught."]Please point out where I said that?

I merely argued that the Connolly incident was not 'cheating'. No advantage went Dublin's way as a result of the incident. Mayo were the only team to benefit from it during the game.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 13/07/2016 22:07:18    1882822

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Replying To mayoaresavage:  "
Replying To CroiGorm:  "Seriously?!?! That is laughable! How in God's name can that be considered 'cheating'?? Ridiculous comment

The definition of cheating: 'act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.'

Please tell me what advantage was gained by Connolly/Dublin? The only team that gained an advantage from that iincident was Mayo."
So are you telling me what O'Shea done was worse than what Connolly done? I just don't understand the abuse O'shea is getting when we all know far worse goes on on football pitches"
Please point out where I said that?

I argued that the Connolly incident was not 'cheating'. No advantage went Dublin's way as a result of the incident. Mayo were the only team to benefit from it during the game. Whatever it was it was not cheating. End of.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 13/07/2016 22:11:15    1882827

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'Without trying to state the obvious, it was a penalty because the referee awarded it. The claim that the penalty decided the match is somewhat spurious as the result, in my opinion, would have been the same regardless of the penalty'.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts

Your comment is spurious. We all know the penalty was awarded and most posters know that it was not a penalty under the rules of the game. The penalty was awarded with about 6-7 minute to go when you were 1 point down- now your record in certain matches in the last 5-7 minutes have not been that impressive! Anyway we all move on and as I said before ye were on the receiving end of very poor decisions over the years in important matches.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 13/07/2016 22:48:10    1882841

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The GAA, Southern media and MANY in the South are rabidly partitionist and their DNA is biased against 'Nordies' Ulster GAA teams and players and they make the rules up as they go along to suit their own narrow, self serving agenda. The replies on this thread prove that beyond any doubt.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9838 - 14/07/2016 00:09:29    1882860

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Lee Keegan had Connolly in a chokehold, Connolly was merely defending himself which he is entitled to do and DRA agreed. What has that got to do with Aidan "Swan Lake" O'Shea's dive?

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4958 - 14/07/2016 08:15:52    1882887

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Replying To arock:  "Lee Keegan had Connolly in a chokehold, Connolly was merely defending himself which he is entitled to do and DRA agreed. What has that got to do with Aidan "Swan Lake" O'Shea's dive?"
Well not according to the CCC, where you had to go through 3 appeals, and then hire a judge to argue your case, as the next step was an injunction to the high court. Must be great to have so much money for these legal cases or the cryotherapy for the semi final replay.

saddam (Mayo) - Posts: 414 - 14/07/2016 09:49:53    1882932

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Replying To saddam:  "Well not according to the CCC, where you had to go through 3 appeals, and then hire a judge to argue your case, as the next step was an injunction to the high court. Must be great to have so much money for these legal cases or the cryotherapy for the semi final replay."
Someone sounds slightly jealous.... :P

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 14/07/2016 10:06:41    1882950

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Is diving worse than throwing a headbutt or eye-gouging?

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1223 - 14/07/2016 12:14:00    1883040

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Replying To unclegerry:  "Is diving worse than throwing a headbutt or eye-gouging?"
Of course diving is not worse but Sophies choice example's hardly help ,

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 14/07/2016 13:42:19    1883117

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Replying To unclegerry:  "Is diving worse than throwing a headbutt or eye-gouging?"
Depends on who you ask! However i daresay to the lads in Fermanagh it is.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 14/07/2016 13:45:09    1883122

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At the end of the first half of extra-time of the All-Ireland Semi-Final replay between Kerry and Mayo in 2014, Cormac Reilly awarded Kerry with two frees which the duly pointed.
During analysis of the game on TV after, 1 of the frees was adjudged to have been very soft with the other been adjudged to be no foul at all and Reilly was lambasted.
I was at the game, and for the second free, there was a clear jersey pull that wasn't caught on camera about 2 seconds before the ball got in. Reilly was right, it was a free.

The idea that the TV replay's we have available to us can clearly show what happened not happened is a nonsense.

Did O'Shea dive? yes
Was his jersey pulled? yes
Was it inside the large box? yes
Is that a penalty? yes

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 216 - 14/07/2016 14:13:21    1883153

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Replying To Jackeen:  "Depends on who you ask! However i daresay to the lads in Fermanagh it is."
You would be wrong on that one.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 14/07/2016 14:18:11    1883156

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#swanlake

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 14/07/2016 14:25:32    1883164

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Replying To gotmilk:  "You would be wrong on that one."
I was talking about the players but fair play!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 14/07/2016 14:30:43    1883168

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Replying To BlastCalyle:  "At the end of the first half of extra-time of the All-Ireland Semi-Final replay between Kerry and Mayo in 2014, Cormac Reilly awarded Kerry with two frees which the duly pointed.
During analysis of the game on TV after, 1 of the frees was adjudged to have been very soft with the other been adjudged to be no foul at all and Reilly was lambasted.
I was at the game, and for the second free, there was a clear jersey pull that wasn't caught on camera about 2 seconds before the ball got in. Reilly was right, it was a free.

The idea that the TV replay's we have available to us can clearly show what happened not happened is a nonsense.

Did O'Shea dive? yes
Was his jersey pulled? yes
Was it inside the large box? yes
Is that a penalty? yes"
You got it all right bar the jersey pull. I was sat right in line with it, 2 fellas from Mayo who were sat beside me told me at the time that they didn't think it was a penalty. It wasn't a pull, for it to be a pull he needs a closed hand and part of o'ses jersey in his hand. He then needs to exert force for it to be a pull. If anything you could argue it was a push (the complete opposite of a pull) but again there needs to be force exerted. As it stands he placed his hand on his back, nothing more, nothing less.

Anyway can this thread die a death. The penalty was given, it was a dive. The world keeps moving and Mayo are still in the championship. There is nothing else to say on it.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 14/07/2016 14:47:58    1883189

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Did O'Shea dive? yes
Was his jersey pulled? yes
Was it inside the large box? yes
Is that a penalty? yes

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts:123 - 14/07/2016 14:13:21 1883153

There was no Jersey pull. Big Aidy took a dive like he did many times before. Big diving h**r. End of story.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 14/07/2016 14:49:52    1883190

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "Did O'Shea dive? yes
Was his jersey pulled? yes
Was it inside the large box? yes
Is that a penalty? yes

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts:123 - 14/07/2016 14:13:21 1883153

There was no Jersey pull. Big Aidy took a dive like he did many times before. Big diving h**r. End of story."
He was being held before ball was played in. That's a penalty and it's what the ref signalled for. He did dive subsequently though.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 14/07/2016 15:04:20    1883210

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Replying To BlastCalyle:  "At the end of the first half of extra-time of the All-Ireland Semi-Final replay between Kerry and Mayo in 2014, Cormac Reilly awarded Kerry with two frees which the duly pointed.
During analysis of the game on TV after, 1 of the frees was adjudged to have been very soft with the other been adjudged to be no foul at all and Reilly was lambasted.
I was at the game, and for the second free, there was a clear jersey pull that wasn't caught on camera about 2 seconds before the ball got in. Reilly was right, it was a free.

The idea that the TV replay's we have available to us can clearly show what happened not happened is a nonsense.

Did O'Shea dive? yes
Was his jersey pulled? yes
Was it inside the large box? yes
Is that a penalty? yes"
Did O'Shea dive? yes
Was his jersey pulled? NO
Was it inside the large box? yes
Is that a penalty? NO (see question 1).

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 14/07/2016 15:09:28    1883221

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Admin, any chance of closing down this thread, its tiresome now.

saddam (Mayo) - Posts: 414 - 14/07/2016 15:13:21    1883229

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Well said Seanie!!!

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 14/07/2016 15:16:03    1883235

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