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Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Like I said it happened on the field teams get frees that where scored that are not frees ,surely if everyone nit picked up decisions season would never finish .the laois using to many subs falls under different circumstances" It falls under the GAA rules, like I said rules are rules and you cannot be selective in which ones you want to implement in the interest of fairness. THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 21/06/2016 17:22:49 1870374 Link
Dellboypolecat i think you miss my point. Im not saying you should replay games. Im not even saying louth meath shold have been replayed. My point is the gaa are selective in when they decide officials errors cant be revisited and when they can Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 817 - 21/06/2016 17:24:39 1870376 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Laois should how many subs they used so .You can't put full blame on to fourth official" Come on every player and team tries there luck during games if a player commits a foul and the free is not given who does the blame lie with the referee or the player for the mistake? Same thing happens here laois may have committed the offence but the official didn't call it during the game. Didn't mayo make a similar substitution error against Dublin in 2012 hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/06/2016 17:26:21 1870377 Link
At last nights County Board meeting there was no real excitment about the possibility of a replay...... the Armagh County Board didn't go looking for this....... I feel for Laois, and hope this was a genuine mistake...... We were awful and Laois deserved to beat us..... but we were on top in the last 10 mins - the only time we played with conviction..... it was at this stage we should have had a free in front of the posts when Jamie Hall was fouled ignored, Soupy Campbell was deliberatley tripped twice - no foul, Laoise weather this storm , but had an illegal player on the field for a brief period, was that the period that Armagh might have got a goal..... who knows...... probably highly unlikely... but in Laois's defence the officials had a nightmare and should be stood down for the yr...... what people forget is that the referee had a shocker and Laois should have had a player sent off for a strike with a ball..... a throw-up is just a cop -out - a rule is a rule I don't want Laois thrown-out.... replay in the interest of sport is probably better....... just another pub GAA question - who was the refereee A. Mr Nolan cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 21/06/2016 17:31:48 1870381 Link
Replying To cuederocket: "How do you think it would work hill if you had a bet on Armagh to win?" Wouldn't make a difference as I had plenty bets on horses that were interfered with during race at key times and stewards didnt reverse the decision. Armagh were beat here without this sub even touching the ball I reckon in the mere 45 seconds he was on the pitch. It has no effect on the outcome whatsoever hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/06/2016 17:32:48 1870383 Link
Replying To CroiGorm: "Is that an actual fact though? That Laois checked with the fourth official before putting him on? Has someone from the Laois set up come out and confirmed that or is it just making the rounds between fans?" Every substitution has to go through the fourth official hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/06/2016 17:34:21 1870385 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Like I said it happened on the field teams get frees that where scored that are not frees ,surely if everyone nit picked up decisions season would never finish .the laois using to many subs falls under different circumstances" "laois using to many subs falls under different circumstances "Different circumstances" a rule breach, yeah ? Circumstances do not come into or shouldn't come into it. THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 21/06/2016 17:35:01 1870386 Link
Replying To THE_SNAPPER: ""laois using to many subs falls under different circumstances "Different circumstances" a rule breach, yeah ? Circumstances do not come into or shouldn't come into it." Rules where broken by rule book on subs used . On Meath v Louth it was a playing infringement where there is no rule in book for replays .You understand now Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 17:48:54 1870390 Link
Replay confirmed . Very poor decision no word on the official id he is being punished for making the mistake hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/06/2016 17:51:43 1870392 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: " Replying To THE_SNAPPER: ""laois using to many subs falls under different circumstances "Different circumstances" a rule breach, yeah ? Circumstances do not come into or shouldn't come into it." Rules where broken by rule book on subs used . On Meath v Louth it was a playing infringement where there is no rule in book for replays .You understand now" Does the rule book not cover scoring, or whats legit and what isn't ? THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 21/06/2016 17:59:16 1870397 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: " Replying To THE_SNAPPER: ""laois using to many subs falls under different circumstances "Different circumstances" a rule breach, yeah ? Circumstances do not come into or shouldn't come into it." Rules where broken by rule book on subs used . On Meath v Louth it was a playing infringement where there is no rule in book for replays .You understand now" Was it a playing infringement in the Antrim v Meath game that resulted in a replay been ordered, no it related to a score that was given that shouldn't have been given, same as Louth v Meath in 2010 ? GAA are not consistent with there decision making when it come to replays as far as I can see. THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 21/06/2016 18:06:43 1870401 Link
Replying To THE_SNAPPER: " Replying To Dellboypolecat: "[quote=THE_SNAPPER: ""laois using to many subs falls under different circumstances "Different circumstances" a rule breach, yeah ? Circumstances do not come into or shouldn't come into it." Rules where broken by rule book on subs used . On Meath v Louth it was a playing infringement where there is no rule in book for replays .You understand now" Was it a playing infringement in the Antrim v Meath game that resulted in a replay been ordered, no it related to a score that was given that shouldn't have been given, same as Louth v Meath in 2010 ? GAA are not consistent with there decision making when it come to replays as far as I can see."]It was a draw Meath v Antrim so your argument like the others do not stand up Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 19:40:45 1870431 Link
Replying To waynoI: "The 7th sub came on in the 73rd minute.. Ridiculous then to even consider disqualifying them for bringin in a guy who likely didn't even tough the ball or have any major impact in the game." oh, so you can bring on 7 subs then ? s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 21/06/2016 19:55:26 1870436 Link
Replying To Andy: "I swear to God if the powers that be throw us out of the competition for making a genuine mistake when the game was done (the 7th sub came on 3 mins into injury time when Armagh were 2 points down at the time), then it will seriously look like their aim is to do a number on us! Would the Armagh contingent look for a replay? I would accept if the sub came around 10 mins from the end but the game was up? I would hazard a guess that we would get a fine, but even that I would hope the Laois county board stand firm on, especially after running it by the 4th official and him Ok'ing it." ridiculous comment. it's up to the manager and his team to know how many subs you are allowed. your anger should be directed at them. otherwise the rule is no use. or you should have a rule that states you bring on more than 6 so long as they don't influence the game. I mean why did they bring the sub on unless they thought it would influence the game somewhat. remember it was a black carded player who had just commited a very cynical foul. so you should have been playing with 14 rather than 15. this can make a difference even with 30 seconds to go. yous scored a point whilst the 7th sub was on the field. You deserved to win the game, no doubt about that but save your scorn for your own mgmt team who messed up. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 21/06/2016 20:01:22 1870439 Link
Replying To BigJohn.6_8: "Surely the powers to be will see Common sense with this one.... Laois asked the 4th offical could they make the sub he said yes...It was with 28 seconds left on the clock.... A replay would be farcical throwing Laois out would the biggest crime in the GAA's recent history Even a fine would be a tad harsh but maybe would have t be applied so as not to set a trend of it happening in the future. Armagh don't want a replay I would say and their players are probably happy to be going to France and other places on holidays. I suspect it will be sorted very quickly tonight by the powers that be.... It might be a good thing that it will insure it doesn't happen in bigger games and the 4th Official might have to take ALL(and in my opinion the correctly)the responsibility in making sure the subs/black card subs/and blood subs are done correctly By all accounts Saturday was a joke for both teams with subs being made.... TIME THE GAA BECAME MORE PROFESSIONAL IN OFFICIATING THE GAMES WE LOVE" WHY on earth did they want to make the sub. and what was the reason for asking. surely they were only saying to the 4th official, we want to make a sub, not saying "is it legal to make a sub" . admit it they cocked up bigtime. it's a harsh lesson but with all the backroom staff nowadays surely one person can be in charge of the subs and how many they have used. our own manager has a bad habit of throwing on subs in injury time and I really don't know why either ? s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 21/06/2016 20:13:59 1870447 Link
Rematch it is Daft Daft Daft stuff from Laois.................................... jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 21/06/2016 20:41:17 1870454 Link
Have to agree,this was very daft from Laois.I hope for their sake they don't pay the price.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/06/2016 21:09:29 1870469 Link
Replying To waynoI: "Mayo's subs in 2012 were indeed a bit suspect. Either way, Dublin didn't bother complaining. Gave them the benefit of the doubt. Mayo deservedly won the game that day. No complaints from the Dubs who were very gracious in defeat afterward if I remember rightly. Look, Armagh could possibly feel aggrieved. But the guy came on 3 minutes into injury time at the end. Fine them, Fair enough, But to have a game replayed or to give Armagh the game because of a bloke being on a field for a couple of second without even touching the ball is a bit harsh. Over the 70 minutes Armagh got what they deserved and that was a championship exit." I think Mayo's substitutions that day were within the rules even though they stretched them to the limits. Though Dublin may have been gracious in defeat if the rules were indeed broken then I think that would not have been the end of it. Very careless of Laois but surprising it doesn't happen oftener. Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 21/06/2016 21:18:44 1870476 Link
Jesus if a club manager did it things would be bad enough, but the Laois management must be mortified! TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8369 - 21/06/2016 21:22:55 1870478 Link
Replying To s goldrick: "WHY on earth did they want to make the sub. and what was the reason for asking. surely they were only saying to the 4th official, we want to make a sub, not saying "is it legal to make a sub" . admit it they cocked up bigtime. it's a harsh lesson but with all the backroom staff nowadays surely one person can be in charge of the subs and how many they have used. our own manager has a bad habit of throwing on subs in injury time and I really don't know why either ?" Your missing the point its the fourth official job to run the subs correctly. Surely he marks down a sub each time each team makes one and that's his agenda to look after. He clearly made a massive error allowing it. The only other job he has is to indicate the amount of additional time. So why are laois being punished for an officiating error and there is nobody even questioning the fourth officials performance. We continually see officiating errors and it keeps being swept under the carpet with the same lame excuse that they are only human but we will never see an improved standard of officiating unless they are treated like players and punished for poor games where they make mistakes like any other participants involved in the game. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/06/2016 21:26:17 1870483 Link