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Cork v Tipp....Football! A shock or was it coming?

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Great win by Tipperary, pity that only 2734 fans turned up to witness a famous victory. Now Tipp's reward is they play Kery in Killarney. Why not play the final in Thurles, or did the Muster Council think Cork would come through? thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 12/06/2016 19:19:53 1865636 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "Great win by Tipperary, pity that only 2734 fans turned up to witness a famous victory. Now Tipp's reward is they play Kery in Killarney. Why not play the final in Thurles, or did the Muster Council think Cork would come through?" Fair play on highlighting your own lack of knowledge! Kerry and Tipperary have a home and away arrangement. Our last championship meeting was in Thurles. This year's championship meeting as per agreement is in Killarney. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8824 - 12/06/2016 19:31:04 1865651 Link
I don't comment regularily on this forum, but I do read its contributors at least once a week. I'm 62 year's of age, following small & big ball for over 50 year's in my beloved county of Cork. I have concluded Cork need's outside management team in both code's to bring us forward! Going into my latter year's I'm frightened I may not see silverware on a Monday night in the next decade! We have brilliant club hurler's & footballer's all over the county.....we don't have mentor's! Take this rant/opportunity to mourn the passing of a great Cork son...John "Hoggie" Horgan R.I.P.....a real committed stickman! Wont bore you reader's much more, but U...as I know...the championship needs talented Cork team's contesting the A-I Championship. The Red & White scared the "Be-Jasus" of teams in the past. We have already lost Cusack & Cunningham (not county board men!) to the opposition! I would take a Tipp manager for our hurler's and a Kerry manager for our footballer;s going forward. That is a Munster management team!!! I suppose we will havefinished some great "outdoor" concert's in down "the Park" when its finished. Mind you, I would have loved to see a Rory Gaqllagher concert there! eaglehaslanded (Cork) - Posts: 135 - 12/06/2016 19:34:26 1865653 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Fair play on highlighting your own lack of knowledge! Kerry and Tipperary have a home and away arrangement. Our last championship meeting was in Thurles. This year's championship meeting as per agreement is in Killarney." Congratulations on your scholarly knowledge of Munster football championship arrangements. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8004 - 12/06/2016 19:43:07 1865662 Link
The Munster council "suits" will be devastated this evening! What'll they do next year, to try to curb the rise of the "weaker" counties?? Well done, Tipp, and to Liam Kerins. He's now beaten Cork with two of the "minnows". football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 12/06/2016 19:48:21 1865670 Link
Fantastic result for Tipp. Shows that any team can do what Tipp has done. Start young and invest in youth and you will reap the rewards. No reason why the Leinster countries and others can't copy the Tipp template and make the championship more competitive.......maybe we wouldn't have to change the structure of the championship. I know one shock result is going to do that but small steps and all that. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2093 - 12/06/2016 19:54:33 1865675 Link
What a joyless lot on here declaring it was no shock. I had a look at the thread predicting this weekends results and as far as I can see not a single poster went for Tipp. Between this result, an excellent game in Connacht and what sounded like good games in Leinster it was a great day of championship action. Tell those in Tipp football that the championship doesn't matter until August! Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 12/06/2016 19:58:56 1865681 Link
Congratulations to Tipperary on a historic win, also remember it was a Tipperary team that won the Munster Club Championship this year and were desperately unlucky in losing semi final to eventual All Ireland Winners. As for Cork we have a County Board dominated by one personality for the past 44 years, Inter County success is not a priority in Cork and our administrators have left us down time & again. I would also welcome outside Management for both our Senior County teams, I have been lucky enough to witness many an All Ireland victory over the years but the good times are over and their is nothing we can do but to suck it up. I will of course continue to support both teams in the Qualifiers but I have no expectations that either side will reach the quarter finals. corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 12/06/2016 20:12:55 1865705 Link
Replying To Soma: "What a joyless lot on here declaring it was no shock. I had a look at the thread predicting this weekends results and as far as I can see not a single poster went for Tipp. Between this result, an excellent game in Connacht and what sounded like good games in Leinster it was a great day of championship action. Tell those in Tipp football that the championship doesn't matter until August!" Yea,how posters can't see the significance of Tipp being without six of their best players from last year and beating Cork for the first time in 72 years as not being a shock is a little surprising.Also,Tipp narrowly avoided being relegated to Div 4 a few weeks back by drawing with Sligo in their last game and surviving by the skin of their teeth . cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 12/06/2016 20:16:41 1865712 Link
Well well well all the criticism and mockery of the Munster Championship and it only produces the story of the year barring a miracle in Leinster which I don't see happening. Well done Tipperary, as anyone who follows Munster football knows this day was coming for a long time. At underage they have consistently beaten the Rebels and in particular ourselves and it was only a matter of time that Tipp would dethrone them at senior. Even accounting for the huge losses they have suffered from last years panel, they have built up signifcant depth in quality through a succession of quality underage teams the last 6/7 years. The hard work had paid off and again congratulations, can't wait to see ye in Killarney in 3 weeks for what should be a titanic battle! KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 12/06/2016 20:30:49 1865728 Link
Replying To corkcelt: "Congratulations to Tipperary on a historic win, also remember it was a Tipperary team that won the Munster Club Championship this year and were desperately unlucky in losing semi final to eventual All Ireland Winners. As for Cork we have a County Board dominated by one personality for the past 44 years, Inter County success is not a priority in Cork and our administrators have left us down time & again. I would also welcome outside Management for both our Senior County teams, I have been lucky enough to witness many an All Ireland victory over the years but the good times are over and their is nothing we can do but to suck it up. I will of course continue to support both teams in the Qualifiers but I have no expectations that either side will reach the quarter finals." Very good post. Fair play to you for continuing to support them. I won't. I won't shout against them but we would be better off out of it. Our county board don't support the team and would rather build a stadium that nobody wants than support actual GAA activity in the county. Cork GAA people would be better off not going to Cork matches_they have ignored our total lack of interest in this stadium. I hope the place rots once it is built... It would be a major shock if Tipp beat Kerry. Cork were hammered by Division 3 Kildare last championship match.. How then can you be shocked if they lose to another division 3 team by a point? bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 12/06/2016 21:55:26 1865789 Link
Replying To bennybunny: "Very good post. Fair play to you for continuing to support them. I won't. I won't shout against them but we would be better off out of it. Our county board don't support the team and would rather build a stadium that nobody wants than support actual GAA activity in the county. Cork GAA people would be better off not going to Cork matches_they have ignored our total lack of interest in this stadium. I hope the place rots once it is built... It would be a major shock if Tipp beat Kerry. Cork were hammered by Division 3 Kildare last championship match.. How then can you be shocked if they lose to another division 3 team by a point?" Cork lost to Kildare the week after losing the munster final replay (if i remember correctly).The success rate for all beaten provincial final teams with a one week turn around is very low.Also,Kildare didn't lose six of their best footballers over a 12 month period.Also,Kildare have beaten many big teams down through the years,reaching the 2010 All Ire final.Tipp have waite 72 years to beat ye and did it with a seriously weakened team. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 12/06/2016 22:15:02 1865804 Link
* 2010 All Ire semi final cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 12/06/2016 22:31:24 1865815 Link
Replying To cuchulainn35: "Great well done Tipp!! will Cork be seeded next yr?" Good call I'd forgotten about that. Yeah Tipp and Kerry should be seeded next year based on current rules. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 12/06/2016 23:16:07 1865845 Link
Replying To county man: "If Tipp had all their players, it wouldn't have been a shock but to do it without at least 2 top class players and 4 more decent footballers is a shock. It is extremely difficult for so called "hurling only" counties to make progress in football so this is huge for the footballers. The acid test for Tipp football will be once they start becoming consistent at a higher level for a few years and they have a few more dual players, or have potential hurlers who choose football, what will the county board do? Will they let the dual players continue or make them to choose one or the other at earlier age (and thereby favouring the hurlers)." They have already started. At the county board convention a motion was defeated to make it mandatory for minors to pick hurling or football. But this didn't stop Liam Cahill the minor hurling manager for coming out and saying he wouldn't pick players who played football. The county chairman also supported this. So the two of them gave a democratic vote the two fingers. The minor footballers got knocked out by Limerick last month. So Cahill had the neck to call four of the footballers up to the hurling panel ahead of our Munster semi with Cork. It unacceptable and ignorant behaviour. Playing dual will improve the players at senior level whether they play hurling or football. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 12/06/2016 23:38:27 1865853 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Fair play on highlighting your own lack of knowledge! Kerry and Tipperary have a home and away arrangement. Our last championship meeting was in Thurles. This year's championship meeting as per agreement is in Killarney." Did not need the sarcasm from you. Hope Tipp put ye in ye're place. Arrogant Kerry cretin. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 13/06/2016 00:42:35 1865873 Link
Didn't see this as a massive shock but yes I expected Cork to win but I thought it would have been close. Tipperary have something to cheer about lately when it comes to football for the first time in a very long time. Don't forget they won a minor All-Ireland in 2011 and their U-21s got to an All-Ireland final only last year and lost by just one point to a very strong Tyrone side.They have put a lot into underage level.A huge shift in the balance of power is coming to Munster and I'd expect them to have a Munster championship in the next couple of years ( if not this year , although Kerry is going to be a much more difficult task than Cork)..and why not , they have to believe they can do it now.They are in a Munster final, stranger things do happen but I'd still suspect Kerry to pull through by five or six..but best of luck to them. BarryPD (Dublin) - Posts: 34 - 13/06/2016 02:27:36 1865884 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "Good call I'd forgotten about that. Yeah Tipp and Kerry should be seeded next year based on current rules." Does anyone know the text of the motion? Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1189 - 13/06/2016 08:17:48 1865899 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "They have already started. At the county board convention a motion was defeated to make it mandatory for minors to pick hurling or football. But this didn't stop Liam Cahill the minor hurling manager for coming out and saying he wouldn't pick players who played football. The county chairman also supported this. So the two of them gave a democratic vote the two fingers. The minor footballers got knocked out by Limerick last month. So Cahill had the neck to call four of the footballers up to the hurling panel ahead of our Munster semi with Cork. It unacceptable and ignorant behaviour. Playing dual will improve the players at senior level whether they play hurling or football." Well Deccie Browne wrote about this in the Cork Examiner a week or so ago. And got a "belt" then off "Westside" in the Clonmel Nationalist for pointing out the hypocrisy of Cahill & Co. for it. Some people in Tipp have such narrow little minds,and they're usually hurling people. Muilleann (Tipperary) - Posts: 114 - 13/06/2016 09:05:45 1865913 Link
Replying To Tacaí Liatroma: "Does anyone know the text of the motion?" That the Munster finalists get a bye to the following year's Munster semi finalists. It was Munster GAA's way of saying we are making the Munster championship draw 'open' but at the same time doing our best to protect the Kerry Vs Cork Munster final. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 13/06/2016 10:20:00 1865971 Link