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Sheehan was behind a lot of the nonsense today. CCCC should look at his behaviour, it was a disgrace and he provoked a lot of Donegal fellas.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9837 - 06/03/2016 21:40:16    1831491

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Agreed that the ref had a job on his hands but in truth the players know the refs and which of them are strong on discipline or afraid to send off 2,3 or 4 players. If "ALL" referees by some miraculous means managed to interpret the rules in the same way it would be the death knell for the crap we saw today and in fairness to some extent every day. Referees can bang on all they want about player indiscipline but in truth , you reap what you sow.

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 658 - 06/03/2016 21:40:32    1831492

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The Fridge wtf is he suppose to do? Ah go ahead there Neil break my 3 fingers and will leave it at that? Sure I've another 2 I should be ok to play on, bs he had to throw digs no other option.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 06/03/2016 21:58:06    1831510

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The Fridge wtf is he suppose to do? Ah go ahead there Neil break my 3 fingers and will leave it at that? Sure I've another 2 I should be ok to play on, bs he had to throw digs no other option.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:7126 - 06/03/2016 21:58:06 1831510

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You have lost the run of yourself completely!!! Look at all my posts....I have condemned McGee....I think Alab Fitz had no choice hence the reason I said UNFORTUNATELY he will be banned!!!!It's the oldest rule in the book....you retaliate when provoked you get suspended. You wrote extensively on this during the Connelly/Keegan incident last year. Calm down and read people's posts.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2102 - 07/03/2016 08:08:58    1831517

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Both teams fairly lost the run of themselves alright.

McGee, Donaghy and O'Mahony really let themselves down imo.

McLoone was maybe a little unlucky but by the letter of the law he deserved to go. Again by the letter of the law Fitzgerald can't have any complaints but we can all see why he lashed out at McGee and most people would have reacted similarly.

Provocation is very rewarding on a Gaelic Football field and the longer it stays like that, the longer we will see games like yesterday's in Tralee.

Ulsterman is the different side of the same coin here I'm afraid. Par for course I suppose.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13837 - 07/03/2016 08:28:59    1831522

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Ok a wild load of crap being talked here about the ref taking action. Yes a Red was giving at the end of the first fracus but nothing was done about what started it. THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM. Donaghy should have been given a yellow straight away. No need to be wasting time.

Same for the McLoone incident. He was stupid but where was O Mahonys yellow for starting that row.

This isn't the Donegal of old. Our boys wont back down but they need to be smarter about things - No lifting the hand or arms. McLoone unfortunately wasn't. Hugh McFaddan is poor in them scenarios also and I feel if he was left on he would have done something to retaliate.

I feel if 2 rules are implemented they would stop all this sh*t. 1 rule is whoever starts the row should get punished. This is never the case. 2 players wrestling on the ground. 2 yellows. That's making things worse not better. 2nd rule is third man in should be straight Red - this is what starts the pile in. You cant put the second one in until the first one is properly done though.

McGee Deserves a ban for messing with Fitz fingers but where do you stop if you bring in subsequent bans on a game like that where up to 10 players (just estimating) should have seen the line either for starting a row or retaliating.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 07/03/2016 08:43:30    1831529

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2nd rule is third man in should be straight Red - this is what starts the pile in

McBrearty would have seen the line in this instance then.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 07/03/2016 08:53:16    1831533

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Front page of the Indo

Big colour photo of the Kerry v Donegal fight

Take up about 60% of the front page

Expect the GAA to react and look for bans

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 07/03/2016 09:14:53    1831539

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McGee Deserves a ban for messing with Fitz fingers but where do you stop if you bring in subsequent bans on a game like that where up to 10 players (just estimating) should have seen the line either for starting a row or retaliating.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts:889 - 07/03/2016 08:43:30


I think if the GAA wants to tackle this issue then you have to go about retrospectively banning big numbers of players. If you ban 10 players after a game once or twice and make the bans stick then you might actually eradicate this crap from the game.

Dublin v Mayo drawn game last year should have had a number of players banned afterwards, but instead they only banned one. Once they did that they left the door open for the farce that was the appeal.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13837 - 07/03/2016 09:38:16    1831556

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2nd rule is third man in should be straight Red - this is what starts the pile in

McBrearty would have seen the line in this instance then.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts:691 - 07/03/2016 08:53:16 1

Yes I know that which is why I said you would have to enforce the first rule. The way it is at the moment you have to defend your players because sure as hell most refs wont.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 07/03/2016 10:05:07    1831578

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There is an undercurrent of bad feeling between the two teams. Going back as far as 2012 words were exchanged between the players as they went down the tunnel at half time in the quarter final. Galvin even referenced it in his book. Then we had the final in 2014 and while it passed off without much incident I know Donegal feel it's one we left behind. Last year's league game was fairly spicy as well from what i can remember of it.

There's no doubt Neil was wrong to be doing that to a guy's fingers. Whatever about injuring him in the match, he could have disrupted the lad's livelihood or his studies. In a similar situation anyone here would probably have done the same and clocked him to get free. Galvin didn't need to go mouthing on Twitter about it though. Just fans the flames. He can think it all he wants privately, but with his celebrity status he should have held his tongue. He was no angel himself in his day so he shouldn't be throwing stones at glass houses.

Donaghy and O'Mahoney are masters of the windup. They've been at it for years and they're hardly going to change now. It was obvious to everyone there yesterday that he was hell bent on getting a rise out of Murphy to get him sent off. What was disappointing from our point of view was that we fell into the trap and lost our heads. It really is something that has deteriorated since Jim left. If someone was responsible for a free being brought in to a scoreable position in Jim's time they'd have been crucified at training this week.

On the game itself we weren't at our best. When our discipline goes we aren't half the team. We never got our overlapping, running game going at all. I think second half yesterday it was a game made for Murphy to play at the edge of the square. We had the wind and he showed what he could do when he was inside for a spell. The free-taking from himself and Sheehan was top class, Sheehan especially. His little ball from the free that led to the goal was very clever as well.

It's back to the training ground for us and a chance to cool down, reflect and learn. Hopefully we can get the show back on the road against Roscommon at the weekend.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9954 - 07/03/2016 10:08:47    1831582

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I cant remember a game where Ciarrai used their fists as much before.......i think they even scored four or five fisted points for good measure.

kikfada (Louth) - Posts: 2091 - 07/03/2016 10:11:05    1831589

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2nd rule is third man in should be straight Red - this is what starts the pile in

McBrearty would have seen the line in this instance then.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts:691 - 07/03/2016 08:53:16

Probably correct. But the counter argument here is that yesterday Murphy was clearly targeted from the beginning of the game and the ref failed to take the necessary action to protect him. Donaghy choke slammed him to the ground and got nothing.

Murphy was again given special treatment from o mahony and if the ref isn't going to give the protection thay players should be given to them then what option does mcbrearty have in this instance but to try and pull o Mahoney away

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 523 - 07/03/2016 10:25:38    1831600

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Donaghy choke slammed him to the ground and got nothing.

Donaghy shouldn't have been on the pitch for his yellow card alright, he should have seen a black for that pull down on Murphy. Better still, had he received a yellow for it that 2nd yellow would have seen him sent off.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 07/03/2016 10:32:34    1831605

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I cant remember a game where Ciarrai used their fists as much before.......i think they even scored four or five fisted points for good measure.

kikfada (Louth) - Posts:1932 - 07/03/2016 10:11:05 1

Out of Kerry 1-13. 8 were frees by Sheehan and 4 points were hand passes over the bar.

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 07/03/2016 10:43:39    1831621

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Eamonn Fitzmaurice said that people were boxing each other in the jaw, because of the conditions!!

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4357 - 07/03/2016 11:31:34    1831660

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The initial incident with Donaghy was a strange one and definately deserved a yellow but given that the whistle had gone for a free I dont think the ref could have given a black card for intensionally bringing Murphy to ground. Thats my understanding of the current rules.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 07/03/2016 11:55:06    1831683

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Ulsterman has yet to make any mention of a Donegal player breaking someone's fingers, and that was the worst incident of a game littered with terrible incidents (Kerry were certainly worse IMO).

Ulsterman is everything he professes to hate. A master at letting irony slip by him.

Treaty_Exile (Limerick) - Posts: 386 - 07/03/2016 11:56:04    1831685

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It was disgraceful in Tralee. Kerry obviously were out to ruffle Donegal feathers and break their concentration. It worked and we have the GAA being hammered all over the media today. A rather amusing side was O'Mahoney's 'tough-man' barging of McAloon along the sideline and then crying to the ref when the Donegal man was foolish enough to react and give him a slap. Some hard-man indeed.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 07/03/2016 11:57:24    1831687

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Fine both County boards.Watching Gaelic football at the moment is becoming like a love hate relationship.Donegals earlier games where free flowing and good to watch as where the games involving Dublin.Against Mayo we were continually trying to bully officals and then Kerry and Donegal went at it big time yesterday.

There is just no need for all the pulling,dragging and every man in skuffles.The reason I am saying this is that it looks pathetic on TV compared to rugby where this type of incidence is rare,all players just do not get involved.To be honest I just could not be bothered watching it yesterday and if this becomes a regular occurance people will just not go to games.Is this what our national sport has desended to?

Both county boards should be fined for yesterdays nonsence , and keep fining them till is sorted,(and its not just Kerry and Donegal who are at it) and stop blaming the ref. no human being could control that crap yesterdays

ifindoubt (Donegal) - Posts: 133 - 07/03/2016 12:02:45    1831701

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