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Kilkenny's lack of football interest

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I couldn't find the thread for Cavan still not fielding a hurling team in the two tier Ulster championship announced today, thought it would be 30/40 posts deep by now, but strangely not!!



Why doesn't the GAA promote hurling? Surely if the GAA had an interest in hurling they would promote the game. Most sporting organizations promote their games e.g basketball rugby

The GAA is a many headed beast, and most of those heads are football orientated, so hurling is marginalised in most counties where football is the dominant sport, Kilkenny being the obvious exception in the whole of the 32 counties.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 10/11/2015 16:11:23    1806050

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brian
County: Meath
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Kilkenny have no interest in fielding a football team

Simple solution - Ban them from Hurling until they put investment into a senior football team in League and championship

brian,

How did Meath go in this year's senior hurling championship?

Catmandu (Dublin) - Posts: 6 - 10/11/2015 21:42:32    1806201

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brian
County: Meath
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Kilkenny have no interest in fielding a football team

Simple solution - Ban them from Hurling until they put investment into a senior football team in League and championship


Totally agreed.

They should also ban the Meath hurlers from league and championship until Meath start taking football seriously.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13846 - 11/11/2015 09:11:12    1806236

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Mes, Nice one! Personally I think it should be left up to the clubs in KK to decide if they want to put the resources into a football team. In Meath, hurling is definitely treated as 2nd class. The promotion of hurling in most counties varies from poor to non existent. When you hear the response to hurling matches on Sky from abroad, it demonstrates that we have a unique game that fascinates people. My late father always said the a bad game of hurling was worth 2 good games of football, something I tend to agree with.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 486 - 11/11/2015 09:48:32    1806251

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why punish them countless counties treat hurling with total and utter contempt at county board level & nothing happens them

hurler in the ditch (Louth) - Posts: 439 - 11/11/2015 11:47:49    1806333

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Killarney.87
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Cavan stopped fielding a hurling team altogether in league or championship a couple of years ago and now we have a Cavan man as president of the GAA. That's very scary from a hurling point of view.


Aogan played hurling with Erins Hope while at St Patricks College,Drumcondra.
probably one of the few Cavan men to play hurling. He is a big supporter of Hurling.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5524 - 11/11/2015 14:30:54    1806441

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Killarney.87
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Cavan stopped fielding a hurling team altogether in league or championship a couple of years ago and now we have a Cavan man as president of the GAA. That's very scary from a hurling point of view.


Well the last 'hurling' presidents put hurling back, starting with Nicky Brennan reduced the importance of the Christy Ring/Nicky Rackard and so on from being played before the AI semi-finals to away on their own in early july and then under the watchful eye of Christy Cooney, another 'hurling' man the leagues and promotion/relegation from the Christy Ring/Leinster round robin making it near on impossible to make a breakthrough into the elite levels.

A football man in Sean Kelly did more for hurling in the marginalised hurling counties that these two lads who looked after their own.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 11/11/2015 15:55:10    1806477

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The national obsession with how Kilkenny people choose to spend their leisure time is quite frankly bordering on the disturbing. Personally, I'm not bothered if Longford people love lawn bowls, or if the people of Sligo absolutely live for tiddly-winks, but Kilkenny people's pasttimes seem to be a source of immense national angst. We should be "forced" to play football apparently. I myself play a 7-a-side soccer game every week and try to go for a walk most days, but if it helps placate the great people of Ireland, I will give up these activities and devote my entire free time to playing Gaelic football, and will instruct all my friends and acquaintances to do likewise.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1258 - 14/11/2015 08:48:21    1807177

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Its that dismissive attitude to football that makes me disappointed that our Leinster Championship game v Laois/Wicklow has been fixed for the football wasteland that is Kilkenny city.I dont think the local economy deserves to make a fortune from a game they show zero interest in.Wont be getting my "hard earned" few bob anyway.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 14/11/2015 09:59:42    1807193

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14/11/2015 08:48:21
ballydalane
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The national obsession with how Kilkenny people choose to spend their leisure time is quite frankly bordering on the disturbing. Personally, I'm not bothered if Longford people love lawn bowls, or if the people of Sligo absolutely live for tiddly-winks, but Kilkenny people's pasttimes seem to be a source of immense national angst. We should be "forced" to play football apparently. I myself play a 7-a-side soccer game every week and try to go for a walk most days, but if it helps placate the great people of Ireland, I will give up these activities and devote my entire free time to playing Gaelic football, and will instruct all my friends and acquaintances to do likewise.

Yeah!but you probably bring the Hurley with you for a puck around at the 7 a side and for skelpin weeds on the walk I bet.

SLLY (Dublin) - Posts: 463 - 14/11/2015 10:17:28    1807198

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But cue, surely having "da doobz" playing a championship football match in Kilkenny would be a huge promotional boost for the game in the city and county? Coercing the people of Kilkenny to play Gaelic football and bloody well like it must be made the number one priority of the Association, nay, the Government right now. General election is coming up soon, I think the major issues on the door steps will be in no particular order;

- Economy and employment
- Water charges
- Health service
- Education
- Crime
- How Kilkenny people spend their free time

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1258 - 14/11/2015 11:18:49    1807210

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There are counties & areas within counties in Ireland every bit as hurling mad as Kilkenny. These counties just happen to contain football areas too - which Kilkenny does not have. Hurling is our National Game & goes back at least a couple of thousand years here. If a spaceship landed & saw kids with hurley sticks they would soon conclude that they were in Ireland! The game should be flourishing throughout the country, not at Gaelic football's expense, but all GAA people have a responsibility towards it's wellbeing - so lay off Kilkenny!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4105 - 14/11/2015 11:51:02    1807221

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How ye spend yere free time ballydallane is nobodies business.I've nothing but respect for Kilkenny and its hurling culture.However playing one football game in the city wont change Kilkenny peoples attitude towards the game.I'd be surprised of you do.Most of my fellow Dubs seem to be looking forward to the trip.Doesnt sit well with me though.I think Laois/Wicklow were shafted and no way Kilkenny should have got a big football game.Kilkenny has no time for football.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 14/11/2015 12:08:39    1807224

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Do yo really think a football match in KK was designed to change KK's attitude to football? Its not some alien sport that they've never witnessed before and despite all the buzz about Dublin travelling the likelihood is that this will be a one sided borefest. Hurling matches were played in Dublin for years despite their attitude to hurling.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 710 - 14/11/2015 13:24:07    1807237

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There has always been hurling played in Dublin zulu.We may not have been successful on the national stage but there has always been a competetive hurling club scene.Not a good comparison.Kilkenny have NO TIME for football.J White/Kilkenny poster regularly reminds us that they prefer handball.Kilkenny does not deserve a bumper football pay day.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 14/11/2015 13:51:39    1807245

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Kilkenny are doing a might good job in promoting Gaelic games, do remember Hurling is part of the games too. They are admired and complimented throughout the country by sports people and business people of all persuasions. Cop yourselves on and encourage your own counties to be nearly as successful at whatever ye participate in. Kilkenny concentrate on hurling because they are brilliant at it. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. Perhaps more counties should try to copy them and see where it takes them!

westisthebest (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 14/11/2015 15:45:27    1807270

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All ireland football final day used be a "day off" in the horse racing calendar in ireland but for the last three years they have put a fixture on.And where is the fixture?Kilkenny

theriddler (Wicklow) - Posts: 193 - 16/11/2015 10:19:09    1807519

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All ireland football final day used be a "day off" in the horse racing calendar in ireland but for the last three years they have put a fixture on.And where is the fixture?Kilkenny

Some counties have a full set of football championship fixtures on AI hurling final day, your point being?

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 16/11/2015 10:55:03    1807526

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Perhaps more counties should try to copy them and see where it takes them!
westisthebest (Galway) - 14/11/2015 15:45:2

In all seriousness counties struggling at present in football could convert to hurling and ignore football. They'll have more success. Less competition in hurling If Carlow concentrated on hurling exclusively they'd be in Leinster finals / semi finals every year.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 16/11/2015 10:59:30    1807527

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And played at 3.30pm bricktop?i find that hard to believe

theriddler (Wicklow) - Posts: 193 - 16/11/2015 13:22:01    1807571

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