Agree with the above Donegal poster. I travelled across the border and passed many checkpoints in the 80s and 90s and never had a single issue except maybe for a slight time delay

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 15/09/2015 14:44:59    1787762

Find_the_space well said

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 15/09/2015 14:45:48    1787764

Yes benched nice you did a bit of reasearch like myself. People saying this stands against the GAA but dont back it up with anything at all

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 15/09/2015 14:47:50    1787765

" This country needs some positivity. The days of stopping someone or frowning upon them for taking part in sport are absolutely over and hopefully always will be. "

spot on

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 15/09/2015 14:48:36    1787766

" Maybe some of them just like the sports and want to play and why should we stop them? Also I'm not really a fan of sporting organisations (which all the Gaa really is, and a great one at that) having stated political aims, sport should bring everyone together, not divide people politically. "

Some people cant understand these are just human beings like the rest of us with the same nees, wants and ambitions. Some blinkers will never be removed

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 15/09/2015 14:50:59    1787768

What national anthem will they stand for??

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 15/09/2015 14:56:42    1787772

I find it amusing that there are two threads one stating the GAA is under attack by closed minded bigots who hate everything we stand for as an association and then we have this one saying this team shouldn't be allowed to play because we hate everything they stand for. I lived in Belfast for 25 odd years moved across the water now and it depresses me how little changes, some people just like the fight. When Mandela was released one of the first things they did was setup the peace and reconciliation commission, there have been some half ars**d attempts at this in the past but folk just like telling the world that that other crowd are a shower who hate us and therefore that makes everything alright, no one accepts any responsibility and therefore nothing changes.

For things to be different, attitudes need to change and I dont see it happening because of tradition and a simple desire to maintain a status quo, very much for the worse, hence the North is stuck in the bubble it is. Its's great that the keyboard warriors are on here pontificating and doling out history lessons telling folk they dont know what it was like but look at the victims in these vandalism cases they aren't screaming from the rooftops to lynch anything or anyone who isn't from the area, and they haven't spoke about retribution, they get on with it.

This regiment joining london GAA will stick in some peoples throats but do you know what on the grand scheme of things what does it matter, get on with things, worry about your own clubs and counties and maybe if we can stop being so divisive we'll end up with the progressive, all inclusive association that has been called for on these forums many a time.

duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 15/09/2015 15:10:08    1787778

"I will try again as I am not sure what I said last time which required censorship
Until there is apologies for certain things carried out by the armed forces this should not be allowed.
If DCFC and Royal Dunne et al are they up for this why don't you invite them to your home club for their inaugural match? "

Wouldnt bother me! In regards to apologies they did that for a big event that happened in Derry years ago. You know how it changed or improved the lifes of people in the city? IT DIDNT

sticks and stones

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 15/09/2015 15:10:22    1787779

bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 970
1787772 What national anthem will they stand for??

Who cares? stand for the american national anthem. Its a sport no a show. The Germans stand for god save the queen if playing in an FA final.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 15/09/2015 15:11:42    1787780

Again more ignorance, the Association is "non party political" not non political. Really I do believe some of the people on here are in the wrong organisation.

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 15/09/2015 15:26:04    1787792

DoireCityFC
County: Derry
Posts: 1062

1000s of Derry and northern people died in WW2 but we were promised something in return ;)

My God. Did you get it? I doubt it, maybe you should have asked for it up front.


This not directed specifically at DoireCityFC who generally has some good posts but:


It never fails to amaze me how naive (or pathetic) some Irish people are with regard to dealing with our neighbours. The British Army is one of the most evil institutions that has ever existed, it laid waste to many countries, including our own, helped by some of us unfortunately. Colluding in your own downfall is the lot of the colonised - unfortunately judging by some of the posts here that mindset still exists. Why are some people falling over themselves to say this a good thing, what's good about it? It's a thing alright, but for my mind a bad thing.

I'm sure a lot of people posting here will have members of their families who served in the British Army (Limerick a particular hotbed) in the past and will feel that they are somehow betraying their relatives if they don't make a case for that being OK. I would suggest that you consider that many who joined up were extremely poor and were recruited at hiring fairs, made promises that weren't kept, encouraged by certain religious organisations etc. You could make a case for them being victims and they should be pitied as such. It should also be remembered that many people who were in equal dire straits did not join up.

Slightly off topic but I just can't understand any Irish person wanting to join a foreign army, especially that one. Can't understand anyone of Irish extraction doing the same either - if you have even a cursory understanding of history or even a modicum of self-respect then it shouldn't be possible. There are no excuses these days.

The British army is still killing with impunity today as the British government attempts to keep up its influence around the world. Do you want that to be associated with the GAA - a non-political organisation?

So no to the British Army's participation in official GAA activities. Individuals who want to join, let them take their chances with a local club.

rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts: 305 - 15/09/2015 15:27:33    1787793

DoireCityFC

Some people cant understand these are just human beings like the rest of us with the same nees, wants and ambitions. Some blinkers will never be removed

Ye sadly some blinkers will never be removed but you'll never reach out to people like that.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 15/09/2015 15:31:53    1787800

Would you also like to remove flags from our games as well as our anthem DCFC?

tyronemanc (Tyrone) - Posts: 163 - 15/09/2015 15:40:30    1787806

bumpernut

What national anthem will they stand for??

You see it's these sort of pointless cringe worthy details that often get in the way of progress, anyway a far better question would be = why should there be any national anthem played before a Gaa match when there is no national team present?

I don't agree with the flying of the tricolour or the playing of amhran na bhfiann before every single intercounty game when there's no national teams present (I find it a stupid waste of time and it's just ramming patriotism down people's throats) but I don't make a song and dance about it, I just get on with it because I love Gaelic games and I know I can't have everything my own way!

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 15/09/2015 15:42:30    1787807

DoireCityFC
County: Derry
Posts: 1073

Who cares? stand for the american national anthem. Its a sport no a show. The Germans stand for god save the queen if playing in an FA final.

DoireCityFC, maybe you're making wild statements to back up your original, in my opinion mistaken, welcome for the British Army. You're a sort of reverse Lundy if you will.



I care about the national anthem, it reminds me of the sacrifice made by certain people for this country. And the GAA is an organisation with a particular cultural outlook, one that I think is worthwhile. If I didn't I'd watch rugby where you can hear a non-anthem/dirge when Ireland are playing and see the British army performing heroics abseiling into Twickenham or the Millennium stadium before the game, and where we're happily part of the home countries and wear our poppies in November, like I've seen in Dublin (to my shame) and Limerick (no surprises there). Just not my cup of tea though.

rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts: 305 - 15/09/2015 15:50:17    1787810

I would draw peoples attention to our Rule Book.

Chapter 1 AIMS & ETHOS - 1.2 BASIC AIMS - "The Association is a National organization which has as it's basic aim the strengthening of the National identity in a 32 county Ireland through the preservation and promotion of it's Gaelic Games and pastimes".

Rule 1.4 - "The Association shall actively support the Irish language, traditional Irish dancing, music, song and other aspects of Irish culture. It shall foster an awareness and love of the National ideals in the people of Ireland and assist in promoting a community spirit through it's clubs."

How does the admittance of a regiment of the British Army square with the above, it is an oxymoron, it is totally incompatible with our ethos, history and identity.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 15/09/2015 15:52:38    1787814

Anyone using the basic aims of the GAA to hide behind is really being dishonest with themselves - the are outdated and irrelevant, it won't be long before there are more playing members of Gaelic Games outside Ireland than in it. Do you think that some Chinese Kid really cares about a 32 county Ireland or is he playing a sport that he really enjoys. Should we stop all these kids and adults from playing now because they don't signup to the Basic Aims. If you don't agree with it spit out your real reasons but don't use the Basic Aims of the GAA to hide behind.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2026 - 15/09/2015 15:55:12    1787817

Goodman Ulsterman it appears that those on this thread who pontificating about doing their research etc etc should be feeling schooled at the minute

tyronemanc (Tyrone) - Posts: 163 - 15/09/2015 15:59:44    1787819

zinny
County: Wexford
Posts: 248

1787817
Anyone using the basic aims of the GAA to hide behind is really being dishonest with themselves - the are outdated and irrelevant


zinny, that doesn't make any sense at all. I don't want to go all Rumsfeld on you but: "The aims of the GAA are the aims of the GAA", that's it. There is no interpretation to be made.

rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts: 305 - 15/09/2015 16:03:07    1787821

I've just trawled through all of the messages on this topic and this one from duckula20 stands out head & shoulders above the others:


For things to be different, attitudes need to change and I dont see it happening because of tradition and a simple desire to maintain a status quo, very much for the worse, hence the North is stuck in the bubble it is. Its's great that the keyboard warriors are on here pontificating and doling out history lessons telling folk they dont know what it was like but look at the victims in these vandalism cases they aren't screaming from the rooftops to lynch anything or anyone who isn't from the area, and they haven't spoke about retribution, they get on with it.

This regiment joining london GAA will stick in some peoples throats but do you know what on the grand scheme of things what does it matter, get on with things, worry about your own clubs and counties and maybe if we can stop being so divisive we'll end up with the progressive, all inclusive association that has been called for on these forums many a time.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6490 - 15/09/2015 16:03:12    1787822