I've seen a lot worse than Coen's tackle Ballydalane. And whatever you think of his tackle it was on a player with the ball in his hand not a sly belt like the one Canning got from one of your 'sportsmen' when the ball was out of play .
I'm a very friendly chap like all Dubs.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 09/09/2015 17:24:48    1785313

You've seen a lot worse "tackles" than Coen's? I haven't. It was scandalously dangerous, a potential neck-breaker.

Which Kilkenny player gave the sly belt on Canning? Put your money where your mouth is.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1258 - 09/09/2015 17:59:58    1785329

Why dosent one of the Kilkenny selectors go out and help his own beloved county of laois instead of lapping up all the honours with kilkenny and winning everything. Try and bloody put something back into the game instead of making it a bore fest. I have to say Kilkenny are the worst winners ever..they both make both bad winners and bad losers and are as cynical as hell in their play. Joe canning got a bad off the ball belt other day and tannion was targeted in 2012.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 805 - 10/09/2015 20:29:10    1785842

Preddan, I think you're getting yourself a bit muddled - far from being targeted in 2012, Tannion was in fact doing a fair bit of "targeting" of his own, in the process breaking the kneecap of one of the cleanest and most skilful hurlers in the country, TJ Reid, in an off-the-ball pull (fun fact number one: card issued; none).

There was another chap on here recently who was claiming that a Kilkenny player cynically brought down a Limerick player when straight through on goal in last year's semi-final. Had to be pointed out to him that the fouled player was in fact Kilkenny's Richie Power, who nearly had his ankles taken off him by Limerick's Donal O'Grady (fun fact number two: card issued; none).

I honestly think people see these incidents in a Kilkenny match, and somehow, somewhere, in the recess of their minds convince themselves that it was actually the Kilkenny player who was the offender. It's actually quite a fascinating mental phenomenon, would make for an interesting case study for psychology students. Although it could probably be summed up with the phrase; "people believe what they want to believe".

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1258 - 11/09/2015 08:25:35    1785870

@ballydalane - None other than Michael Fennelly. There's been some comment about the dirty belt Joe Canning received off the ball on the Galway page. Johnny Coen was indeed fortunate not to get a red. However, he did at least get a yellow and the man he challenged had the ball at the time. Fennelly got nothing for pulling across Canning's head.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 921 - 11/09/2015 08:35:55    1785875

Another thread created just to have a go at Kilkenny. They and their supporters are entitled to celebrate whatever way they wish. And in fact for a relatively small county they have a huge core support unlike other counties who come out in their droves for the Final. There would be more from Kilkenny in Salthill for a League game than from Galway. There was 60 thousand supporting Galway last Sunday and of course when they left the stadium the place obviously seemed empty. The appetite for success from the Kilkenny players is reflected in their supporters and it is something just truly amazing after all they've won.

Every county could nit pick about incidents during games but the fact is that the best team won. The ref had no bearing on the overall result as he was kind to Galway throughout the first half and to Kilkenny in the second half. Galway have been playing a "robust" style in the last two years so can hardly complain when others do it back. Barry Kelly was kind to us against Tipp as were the refs in the minor games against Kilkenny. As I said, the best team won and no abuse can deny that.

westisthebest (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 11/09/2015 09:05:27    1785889

A fine post westisthebest. Fair and I would consider it to be accurate.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1479 - 11/09/2015 09:33:32    1785907

I read through the Galway forum there. If Fennelly did what he is alleged to have done against Joe Canning then I could only condemn it - but I didn't see the incident nor does it appear to have been picked up on camera, so I can't comment on something I haven't seen.

It is however, utterly hypocritical and inconsistent to rail against Kilkenny's "dirty play" and "cynicism" while at the same time blatantly ignoring dirty play and cynicism against Kilkenny players.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1258 - 11/09/2015 09:38:55    1785910

What about Andy Smith last sunday what he was doing and getting away with, should Joe Canning have been playing last sunday with the belt he gave to the Tipp hurler in the semi final in regarding the foul on Colin Fennelly Coen should have been sent off he was very lucky if that was in rugby he be gone making the excuse he had the ball is a joke. I find it funny in regarding what the Kildare poster put up about 2012 we lost Michael Rice, semi final due to a terrible incident that was never dealt with, Tj Reid was out with a broken knee cap which he got from one of the players you mentioned in the all Ireland 2012 he didn't come right until 20i4 because he was out for 2013 , the same player pulled across Ritchie Power head when he scored a goal in the first half 2012. As regarding the celebrations I have enjoyed this week the clubs are back in action this weekend.

johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 11/09/2015 09:39:45    1785914

Canning has been dishing it out fairly enthusiastically in recent years. I don't think you'll hear him complaining too much over any belts he got

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1055 - 11/09/2015 09:54:39    1785930

Another thread created just to have a go at Kilkenny. They and their supporters are entitled to celebrate whatever way they wish. And in fact for a relatively small county they have a huge core support unlike other counties who come out in their droves for the Final. There would be more from Kilkenny in Salthill for a League game than from Galway. There was 60 thousand supporting Galway last Sunday and of course when they left the stadium the place obviously seemed empty. The appetite for success from the Kilkenny players is reflected in their supporters and it is something just truly amazing after all they've won.

Every county could nit pick about incidents during games but the fact is that the best team won. The ref had no bearing on the overall result as he was kind to Galway throughout the first half and to Kilkenny in the second half. Galway have been playing a "robust" style in the last two years so can hardly complain when others do it back. Barry Kelly was kind to us against Tipp as were the refs in the minor games against Kilkenny. As I said, the best team won and no abuse can deny that.

westisthebest (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 11/09/2015 13:40:08    1786069

Apologies for double post. The first one was slow been put up so I tried again later and then two appeared.

Btw, from what I heard Joe Canning kicked out at Fennelly first. Think we should just leave that one there!

westisthebest (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 11/09/2015 15:42:54    1786147

There was very obvious sledging going on in the game that wasnt picked up on or commented on in the studio.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3854 - 11/09/2015 16:05:03    1786156

There was only one team sledging, no surprises who was the main protagonist, closely followed by a player who has previous in sledging this season

Heftydickonem (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 12/09/2015 18:24:17    1786415

Ive always associated this Kilkenny team with honour and integrity.
Ive never seen them sledge,dive, or feign injury. A Tipp player hit TJ Reid a belt across the head with his hurl in 2012, and Reid just looked back at him as if to say 'what are ya at"?
On the contrary whenever a Galway man won a ball in last weeks game he seemed to start roaring into a Kilkenny players face.
People can have a go at Kilkenny all they want, but when one county (with a very small population by the way) is so consistently dominant over such a long period of time, sooner or later those same people will have to start asking questions of the other counties.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 12/09/2015 18:58:50    1786427

@heftydickonem - I'd take being sledged anytime over having someone pull across my head with a hurl off the ball.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 921 - 12/09/2015 20:14:54    1786452

This incident was caused by Canning as he kicked out and tripped Fennelly as they were heading out from the KK goal. Fennelly tried to regain his balance by out stretching his arms with the result that Canning ran into his Hurley.
The ref was running out from the goal a few yards behind and clearly saw the incident and quickly told Canning to get up.

Toc (Kildare) - Posts: 3 - 12/09/2015 21:21:15    1786474

Toc, thank you for that excellent and detailed explanation of the incident which certain posters here are, shamefully and scandalously, obviously dramatising for the purposes of their own scarcely-concealed agendas.

I read accounts of the incident in the Galway forum and quite frankly they never rang true for me. It read like Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf; "little Joe was just walking along minding his own business when BANG, out of nowhere big bad Michael Fennelly hit him across the head for absolutely no reason...". I was sceptical to say the least. If it was a court case these guys would not be considered credible witnesses, and now your account, which makes 100% absolute sense, blows their version of events out of the water. In short, they've been completely shown up.

And these guys wonder why Kilkenny fans don't want to "have the craic" with them at matches? When they completely fabricate events to satisfy their anti-Kilkenny bigotry? (And make no mistake, bigotry is what it is). To paraphrase Joe Brolly, you couldn't stomach having a pint with people like that.

If they have any shame (which I very much doubt) they'll apologise to Michael Fennelly and/or crawl back under the rock from which they came.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1258 - 13/09/2015 08:32:56    1786486

Why dosent one of the Kilkenny selectors go out and help his own beloved county of laois instead of lapping up all the honours with kilkenny and winning everything. Try and bloody put something back into the game instead of making it a bore fest.
preddan (Kildare) - 10/09/2015 20:29:10

I agree with you preddan. He could bring a lot to Laois or any other similar county. He's been with Kilkenny for years now. On a different note I'd love to see an an amalgamation of hurlers from Kildare Carlow as they border each other. They'd put a fine team together. I see amalgamations of club teams so why not county teams. Usually there are pockets of hurling areas in bordering counties that are geographically close. Like in Laois the hurling areas are close to Kilkenny.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 13/09/2015 08:36:57    1786489

The incident involving Canning and Fennelly as described above is exactly what happened. And it was one incident that the ref read accurately. Had he taken any action Canning would have been carded. So best to move on from that one.

Regarding support - population of Galway is almost three times that of Kilkenny. Therefore if there was twenty thousand in Croke Park from Kilkenny you'd expect sixty thousand from Galway. And let me say that Galway are lucky if they have two thousand supporting them at any other time during the year. All this stuff about boring Kilkenny, they don't know how to celebrate and so on is just jealousy. Wish I as bored!

westisthebest (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 13/09/2015 09:48:46    1786520