14/10/2015 12:51:08 mediaman
No mention on yesterday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport of the retirement of one the country's best known footballers Meath's Kevin Reilly (Meath and Navan O'Mahony's). Remember his goal from the half way line against Wicklow. Obviously not important enough for RTE. Mentioned on the website.
Is he really one of the countrys best known footballers?
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Ormond
Interpros played 3 games a year until 95/96 bar the odd time when there was touring teams so of course attendances were small and the club game and then internationals were biggest by far.
14/10/2015 13:01:48
Soma
They also used to play the Exiles each year back then but I wouldn't expect you to know stuff like that. So if the reason for interpro attendances being small then was because they only had 4 fixed games each season, and the club game and internationals were much bigger, why are you blathering on about improvements in technology and people expanding their views as reasons why rugby now gets so much extra attention? To me it seems like you are suggesting that rugby is growing because people are now more sophisticated? I did know they played the exiles but they only played them for a few short years - in the 1990s only. Professionalism affected exiles side and if that's what you comprehend from what I posted then there isn't much I can do for you to grasp what I actually meant

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/10/2015 19:09:42    1798827

Ormonde whilst it is noteworthy that you do not personally insult people who you disagree with your habit of reposting other people's post is tiresome and strikes of you having no valid points to back up your opinions. People who have a point make that point. What is your obsession with this minority sport that leads you to repost any message that comments negatively on it with no rebuttal only your own misinformed opinions.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 14/10/2015 20:08:37    1798838

Notice the sudden influx of Rugby Union Fifth Columnists, posters feigning an interest in the welfare of Gaelic Games while all the time talking up Rugby Union. The real matter at hand here is the presence of media bias not the red herrings constantly thrown in by Rugby Union posters. The September facts (see previous posts) clearly showed the bias in the RTE 6.01 programmes in favour of Rugby Union. Matters don't improve for our games when we look at the RTE Sport website. An analysis of the Sport website's Top 20 articles at 10 pm each evening in September (All Ireland Finals month) shows that the only difference between the 6.01 programme and RTE Sport Online is that soccer takes over at No.1 and Rugby Union drops down to No.2.

1. Soccer - 199 articles (33%)
2. Rugby Union - 140 articles (23%)
3. Gaelic Games - 112 articles (19%)

So only 1 in 5 articles covered Gaelic Games, the most played sports in the country, also the most watched in September. Interesting to see what weird and wonderful excuses will be given this time for this level of bias? More red herrings?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 14/10/2015 20:45:58    1798845

mediaman, I admire your determination, but you are verging on deranged stalker at this stage. You actually kept record of the RTE sports website content at 10pm every day in September? I think you need a lie down in a dark room, or better still, a cool drink and the company of some normal human beings.
Hold on a second, I just realised who you are, that lad Micky Kelly from the Apres Match sketch - the GAA Assimilation Committee.
https://youtu.be/BC7Xv7kHiZ4

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 480 - 14/10/2015 20:59:06    1798849

Red herring No.1.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 14/10/2015 21:07:38    1798850

If John West had as many Red Herrings as yourself Mediaman I'd have shares in them.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8173 - 14/10/2015 21:12:32    1798853

I agree with mediaman. We have been victim of upper class Montrose propaganda where through constant saturation of this upper class game bandwagon paddy has become hooked. Thankfully the true gaels are continuing to support irish sports no matter how much rte bash them. However some would have you believe that rugby is seeping into every corner of Ireland. Luckily that's far from accurate but how long before it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy?

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 14/10/2015 21:14:14    1798854

This is gas altogether. mediaman (aka Micky Kelly) how many intercounty games were there in September? Eh, would it be three now - Dublin-Mayo replay, hurling final (within 24-hours of each other) and football final. So three games soaked up 20% of the RTE sports website. I'm assuming that's the case because those bounders in Montrose wouldn't bother covering ladies finals or camogie, no they would never do that.
I think we need to start a petition to have Mickey Kelly as the new Director General in RTE. Replace the Angelus with an address from Cork's very own Frank Murphy every day. Replace Ryan Tubridy on the Late Late Show with Marty Morrissey. Who needs cookery shows when you have ham sandwiches and flasks of tea?

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 480 - 14/10/2015 21:28:07    1798856

Red herring No.2.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 14/10/2015 21:28:20    1798857

It probably is seeping into every corner Skeptical. Professional sport does that. There was a vacuum there for such a long time. Soccer could have filled it if the Wimbledon to Dublin move had been supported by the League of Ireland clubs. They passed up the opportunity and now rugby has filled the void. And it is no passing fad either I can assure you.Like it or not (personally I dont, and I dont watch it) young people are taking to it in droves. I heard of a Co. Meath club who recently folded, not because of emigration or cos the young people moved to the city, but rather because they are playing rugby in preference to playing gaa

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2058 - 14/10/2015 21:53:13    1798862

14/10/2015 20:08:37 sceptical
Ormonde whilst it is noteworthy that you do not personally insult people who you disagree with your habit of reposting other people's post is tiresome and strikes of you having no valid points to back up your opinions. People who have a point make that point. What is your obsession with this minority sport that leads you to repost any message that comments negatively on it with no rebuttal only your own misinformed opinions. I repost the comments im responding to as on most forums it is the done thing and people "quote" who they are in conversation with.
14/10/2015 20:45:58
mediaman
Notice the sudden influx of Rugby Union Fifth Columnists, posters feigning an interest in the welfare of Gaelic Games while all the time talking up Rugby Union. The real matter at hand here is the presence of media bias not the red herrings constantly thrown in by Rugby Union posters. The September facts (see previous posts) clearly showed the bias in the RTE 6.01 programmes in favour of Rugby Union. Matters don't improve for our games when we look at the RTE Sport website. An analysis of the Sport website's Top 20 articles at 10 pm each evening in September (All Ireland Finals month) shows that the only difference between the 6.01 programme and RTE Sport Online is that soccer takes over at No.1 and Rugby Union drops down to No.2.That rugby gets a lot of coverage with RTE during and immediately prior to a world cup is not surprising. Rugby World Cup is one of the biggest sporting events in the world link irrespective of playing figures in India etc which are small its all about tv.
I don't feign an interest in the welfare of gaelic games
The only red herrings are coming from the anti rugby/anti rte/anti other sports other than gaa sports group.
14/10/2015 20:59:06 Roger
mediaman, I admire your determination, but you are verging on deranged stalker at this stage. You actually kept record of the RTE sports website content at 10pm every day in September? I think you need a lie down in a dark room, or better still, a cool drink and the company of some normal human beings.
Hold on a second, I just realised who you are, that lad Micky Kelly from the Apres Match sketch - the GAA Assimilation Committee.
https://youtu.be/BC7Xv7kHiZ4 spot on
14/10/2015 21:12:32
GreenandRed
If John West had as many Red Herrings as yourself Mediaman I'd have shares in them. post of the year!!!!!
14/10/2015 21:14:14 sceptical
I agree with mediaman. We have been victim of upper class Montrose propaganda where through constant saturation of this upper class game bandwagon paddy has become hooked. Thankfully the true gaels are continuing to support irish sports no matter how much rte bash them. However some would have you believe that rugby is seeping into every corner of Ireland. Luckily that's far from accurate but how long before it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy? nice use of cliché... ugby isn't an upper class sport. rte doesn't bash the GAA.
Rugby is increasing in playing numbers/support at pro level year on year
14/10/2015 21:28:07 Roger
This is gas altogether. mediaman (aka Micky Kelly) how many intercounty games were there in September? Eh, would it be three now - Dublin-Mayo replay, hurling final (within 24-hours of each other) and football final. So three games soaked up 20% of the RTE sports website. I'm assuming that's the case because those bounders in Montrose wouldn't bother covering ladies finals or camogie, no they would never do that.
I think we need to start a petition to have Mickey Kelly as the new Director General in RTE. Replace the Angelus with an address from Cork's very own Frank Murphy every day. Replace Ryan Tubridy on the Late Late Show with Marty Morrissey. Who needs cookery shows when you have ham sandwiches and flasks of tea? another candidate for post of the year. Bravo. Superb.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/10/2015 10:54:55    1798910

It's telling that some posters prefer to ridicule Mediaman than the facts he provides. On here during March when RTE were ignoring the national football and hurling leagues posters were were dismissive and telling him that it was because the leagues are of no consequence (despite excellent attendance figures) and come September GAA would dominate the sports news. Now he shows this to be false and again it is the poster and not the content which is attacked. Remember RTE admitted that on March 17th the news showed an unjustifiable bias to rugby over GAA, his posts are not without some foundation.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 15/10/2015 11:49:38    1798924

On today's RTE website, the first two sports headlines are GAA and the third one is rugby. Should rugby supporters be up in arms?

I imagine that most people on here have a genuine interest in GAA. Why bother coming on here if they did not?

What poolsturgeon has said about the Meath club might be alarming. Certainly lots of people are now playing rugby but I do not see them as a 'threat'. I can only speak of Cork and cannot speak of a situation in Meath or anywhere else. Down here while the Cork teams were involved in the senior championshps, there was not a ball pucked or kicked in anger while we waited for our tame exit (there were 5/6 games played in each code out of a total of 70 in the months of May/June/July).

Our fixtures in Cork are not the worst in Ireland (from what I read/hear) but are not exactly organised either. I am a former board delegate for my club and some of the reasons why games get cancelled are frivolous to put it mildly. I cannot say for sure, but my perception (in Cork) is that soccer/rugby have better fixture management. If that is the case, we cannot blame RTE or anybody else if players get annoyed with gaelic games and play other sports.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 15/10/2015 12:00:00    1798929

15/10/2015 11:49:38 Soma
It's telling that some posters prefer to ridicule Mediaman than the facts he provides. On here during March when RTE were ignoring the national football and hurling leagues posters were were dismissive and telling him that it was because the leagues are of no consequence (despite excellent attendance figures) and come September GAA would dominate the sports news. Now he shows this to be false and again it is the poster and not the content which is attacked. Remember RTE admitted that on March 17th the news showed an unjustifiable bias to rugby over GAA, his posts are not without some foundation. Im not ridiculing Mediaman. If he feels RTE are acting unethically then where are the open letters to members of the dail and RTEs executive board? The Rugby World Cup will obviously take centre stage considering its a once in four years event and Ireland have a great chance of success.
Where did RTE admit bias? What link do you have to this admittance?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/10/2015 12:19:51    1798934

The reality is that RTE showed all those matches in September live , they also had full preview shows dedicated to them the night before and highlights show after. It's ludicrous to suggest they are biased against the GAA. They cover a huge amount of games live on TV and radio

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4655 - 15/10/2015 12:28:59    1798937

Re Roger It is clear you feel challenged by the cogent argument put forward by mediaman and when he presents you with FACTS which challenge your BELIEFS you resort to abuse and use terms like "deranged stalker" and caricatures "you are, that lad Micky Kelly from the Apres Match sketch - the GAA Assimilation Committee". This is a sure sign you have lost the argument and I'm sure mediaman is having a quiet chuckle to himself. It is also interesting that Ormandbanner (who can be very thin skinned) is adopting the same name calling tactic using terms such as "you are delusional" and "AKA M Kelly". It is noticeable that mediaman refuses to stoop to your level. Well done sir. Argumentum ad hominem is no defence.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 15/10/2015 12:58:46    1798944

Ormo
 Im not ridiculing Mediaman. If he feels RTE are acting unethically then where are the open letters to members of the dail and RTEs executive board? The Rugby World Cup will obviously take centre stage considering its a once in four years event and Ireland have a great chance of success. 
Where did RTE admit bias? What link do you have to this admittance?
So you think a post describing Mediaman as verging on a deranged stalker, someone who needs contact with other humans and which compares him to what is I presume a figure of fun is spot on but yet claim you are not ridiculing him!? Laughable stuff really. Mediaman deals in facts so if they are wrong demonstrate how rather than trying to ridicule him in an effort I presume to stop him posting.
And bad monkey you seem to be suggesting that as long as RTE continue to preview, broadcast live and review the All-Ireland hurling and football finals then this is proof there is no bias against the GAA from RTE - you set the bar fairly low there!

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 15/10/2015 13:53:15    1798964

Very well said Soma

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 15/10/2015 14:14:53    1798978

Seems a simple case to me. RTE isnt the biggest company in world media. The only have resources to cover so much. So for example if the rugby or soccer national team is playing they generally have cameras fitted in big stadiums or rte can buy the rights from other broadcasters. To cover county finals for example the would need to send a team and equipment to 32 different grounds at their own cost. The sponsorship for club games would just about cover petrol money never mind anything else. Its not basis or anything like that its just a case of £$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$


Its called capitalism folks

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 15/10/2015 14:45:56    1798994

The Rugby World Cup will obviously take centre stage considering its a once in four years event and Ireland have a great chance of success.

I quite like the rugby but I fail to see why it is obvious it would take centre stage considering RTE do not have the rights. RTE do have the rights to the all ireland championships yet the general feeling is they have an agenda to promote one sport over another and it is highlighted by the rights issues. Mediaman rightly pointed out the disparities in the dank dark days of the pre season games and the league and even at the pinaacle of the championships the rugby friendlies took equal footing.

Rugby has the advantage of being an international sport but the compromise rules squads are being whittled down and I haven't found a shred of reporting of this on rte, especially considering the reporting on the rugby pre-WC. We've had heated discussions on other forums re the national anthem and flag at our national games, it is disingenuous from the national broadcaster to have the perception of having ambivalence to the games.

People watch and like lots of different sports, what mediaman is showing is that a sport which is smaller in participation and attendance seems to get an at least equal footing as some larger sports and I think that's pretty fair and accurate analysis from mediaman, he hasn't made anything up just reporting the stats.

duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 15/10/2015 15:32:23    1799017