Some very good and fair comments made on here. The only thinking I'd like to add is a big thank you to Dublin for proving it's not just Tyrone that are good at the acting. It's just a pity that RTE and the media aren't making the same big deal out of it as they did with us. Hypocrites is the first thing that comes to mind.

CoTyrone (Tyrone) - Posts: 261 - 31/08/2015 11:27:13    1778779

Joxer and Royaldunne, honestly stop digging such massive holes for yourselves. Your double standard is plain to see, it's impossible to talk yourselves out of it.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12351 - 31/08/2015 11:56:54    1778819

In the interest of fairness they should get the same treatment. Was one of the dirtiest games iv seen in years. And significantly worse than anything tyrone served up. The cccc will have to watch this one a few times and id saw there is a good few players sweating today Philly being the main one to be fair.

With such a back lash against mc cann (my self included) then the same treatment must be doled out for philly.

People are commenting about the sunday game but after the presidents comments last week you can bet rte told the boys to reel it in so i wouldnt take too much into that one. After all it was one of the worst games this season and the pundits didnt jump all over it.

I bet next saturdays game will be even worse and we will see alot more than what we saw yesterday

i can see the cccc being busy for a while and id say kerry are only delighted with the way things are going

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 31/08/2015 12:25:12    1778860

Kevin Kilbane explains GAA rules to Ruud Gullit...

I'll bet that was difficult. Especially explaining the effect of Jersey Colour on whether it's niggly or meriting a public apology.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 31/08/2015 12:49:51    1778897

Can't really feel sorry for o Carroll if he wasn't swinging o Connor around he get no belt in the face.
Connoly a class player Frustration got the better of him but unfortunately not first time.
McMahon was a disgrace. From start to finish and has to be banned.

tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 31/08/2015 12:52:59    1778902

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Joxer and Royaldunne, honestly stop digging such massive holes for yourselves. Your double standard is plain to see, it's impossible to talk yourselves out of it.

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No double standards from me Bref. There was cynical play from both sides yesterday. Dublin have received their punishment, were called out on the SG and I've little complaint. My only gripe is that Dublin received 2 blacks, 1 red and had their full-back hospitalised but Mayo had no punishment, which seemed strange. But anyway, no complaints here, we'll move on and won't play the victim.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4743 - 31/08/2015 13:06:35    1778919

What are yez on about? Unless I missed it I did not hear Ciaran Whelan ask Philly Mc Mahon to issue a public apology for his dive.Or his head butt on O'Shea either. The game was so littered with incidents that they were forced to make comments on it.Only Mc Stay was really pointing out the negativity the rest were reluctant at best.Don't give us this nonsense about their impartiality when even players like Declan O' Sullivan are pointing out their reluctance to hold these teams to account.Whelan was very uncomfortable with having to say anything last night.I also did not hear with my Tyrone ears anybody calling for bans on Mc Mahon or any other players either.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 31/08/2015 13:11:05    1778925

To be honest Seanie I'm sure Philly would take Tiernan's punishment any day. Could you honestly imagine Peter Canavan calling out cynical play from Tyrone? He even tried to defend McCann. Laughable.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4743 - 31/08/2015 13:15:30    1778931

Joxer - you would rather argue with people that look at the actual match .

Dublins antics were a disgrace yesterday .

Was Philly asked to make an apology for both his thuggery or his embarrassing dive ?? No is the answer .

You also claim COCs challenge was worse that JC ? You are having a laugh .

I'm not even going to start on DC .

If this was Tyrone , there would be mayhem . JCs challenge got about 1 minute of air time .

You can bring up your usual nordie crap but face the facts , Dublin were by far the the most cynical side yesterday .

I still think Dublin will come through but not playing like that nonsense yesterday .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 31/08/2015 13:22:13    1778936

Well Joxer it's the same in my eyes,a yellow card offense. It wasn't issued at the time by the ref so it's over as far as I would be concerned.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 31/08/2015 13:29:17    1778942

No southern media bias in the Examiner's John Fogarty's piece on yesterday's game - http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/no-point-looking-back-in-anger-now-351112.html

No doubt Dublin supporters will claim that their team is being unfairly treated by the media...

Box13 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 31/08/2015 13:45:18    1778956

Tell me any real bad games concerning Ulster teams??

Ulster football final, 2005?

Seriously, though, the game yesterday had a nasty undercurrent from very early on. There were several off the ball incidents, ranging of blocking forward runs to striking or attempted striking. There's only so much a referee can do when a game goes like that, and you need your linesmen, umpires etc. to come to his aid by bringing his attention to such incidents. Neither county were innocent and it will be interesting to see who is cited by the CCCC when push comes to shove.

As for Tyrone: they definitely have a case when the GAA attempts to sanction a player from their county for diving but not others. And the rather draconian ban of 8 weeks was rightfully overturned.

However, there also seems to be a collective reluctance within that county set-up to accept any wrongdoing, ever. It's seemingly coincidence that a lot of big games involving their side end in rancour of some description, or it's the fault of RTÉ, the Southern media, whatever your having yourself.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 31/08/2015 13:59:57    1778982

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Aah give over hardcore, blaming McGuinness for all the ills of the world


No i blame McGuinness for the state of our game today,over defensive boring cross the field passing and back passing a ball 40 yards to a goalkeeper,and stopping the best players from playing our games.

I blame yous for the dirt,diving and sledging that has poisioned our games this past few years,as i for one has seen it on more than one occacion from yous.

Every other team must now stoop lower to beat yous which drives this brilliant game to the levels we saw yesterday,and this whole championship.

Mayo,Dublin was a bore fest until the last 9 minutes,then a game broke out when Mayo knew the had to go for it like the should have had from the start.

The players we have now should be playing to the crowd with their strenght,skill,fitness,we should have games with very high scoring from start to finish not for the last 10 minutes.

Our game is poision,ruined by Managers who hold good players back by making them play out of position,and ruined by players who have no respect for their opposing player.

Gaelic Football is in turmoil,from black cards to diving to trash talking to poor refs to poisions players and managers.

hardcore (Monaghan) - Posts: 1366 - 31/08/2015 14:09:43    1778996

One of the most annoying thing about the game yesterday apart from the brutal football was all the whinging Cillian O'Connor did at the ref. Both team were as bad as each other yesterday, hope replay is better

donegalhills (Donegal) - Posts: 17 - 31/08/2015 14:10:32    1778999

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Joxer - you would rather argue with people that look at the actual match .

--- I was there TRS. I saw everything from BOTH teams. I am certainly no apologist. I called for punishment following Bitegate if you remember - the first Dub to do it. I said that McCann should only have got yellow also.


Dublins antics were a disgrace yesterday .

--- How about Mayo's. I saw a lot more yesterday than you did because I was actually AT the game. Believe me Mayo had a lot to answer for yesterday too.

Was Philly asked to make an apology for both his thuggery or his embarrassing dive ?? No is the answer .

--- A now come on. Was the Donegal player asked to apologise in 2011 TRS???? Philly didn't have his hair tossed and dive to the floor but he did go down easily and feign and this was a yellow card offence in my book, just like McCann's was, although McCann was a joke in fairness.

You also claim COCs challenge was worse that JC ? You are having a laugh .

---- Did you not see COC's challenge. ROC got 10 stitches. Tell me you are not being serious with this one.

I'm not even going to start on DC .

---- Dc threw a dig. Why?

If this was Tyrone , there would be mayhem . JCs challenge got about 1 minute of air time .

------ ZZZzzzzz. Victim talk again. Again Dublin got a red and 2 blacks yesterday. What did McCann get again? Nothing.

You can bring up your usual nordie crap but face the facts , Dublin were by far the the most cynical side yesterday .

----- No both teams were at it. AOS should have seen black, tackle on Flynn for peno was black, Lee Keegan's pull down on DC and then laying on top of him was a black. COC on ROC was a red. Sorry but take off the anti-Dublin blinkers for a moment and objectively call it. You haven't mentioned Mayo once. Why?

I still think Dublin will come through but not playing like that nonsense yesterday .

----- what other games can you say that Dublin played like that yesterday? We don't have form here. Our U21s don't do it, our minors don't do it and our seniors don't have history. We don't have dressing room doors slammed in our face. Get it?

It was an ill tempered game and I have no problem in having the correct punishment handed out but Mayo should not get off scot-free either. And Dubs won't be claiming a media anti-Dublin witch hunt or blaming the SG or Brolly or anyone else for that matter. We'll pick ourselves up and get on with it.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4743 - 31/08/2015 14:34:02    1779037

McMahon's dive was a disgrace yesterday, another player diving to the ground like a little bitch trying to get his opponent sent off, every bit as bad as Tiernan McCann. But if that somehow appeases anybody who defended McCann then that's just tragic.

Anyway the Gaa needs to bring out a rule to ban these little pricks rapidly.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 31/08/2015 14:52:36    1779058

a karate kick, a head butt, feining injury, punches, holding, dragging, sledging. All this was occured in the game yesterday. Imagine Armagh/Tyrone/Monaghan were involved in the game and the comments that would be being made about them. Think it time everyone accepts this is not an ulster problem but that basically every team does this. And to be honest I don't think its a problem, reality is this has and always will happen in our games. Theres no point saying we need to eradicate it as I think that's impossible to do. If the ref black carded etc every player to do this during the game yesterday we would have been left with about 8 v 8. Suppose it gives us talking points but people should accept this will always happen and stop blaming ulster teams. Great entertainment though i think

goalpost (Armagh) - Posts: 215 - 31/08/2015 15:15:40    1779079

As Brolly said at half time, if it was Tyrone/Monaghan it'd be described as a "bucket of shite". Don't always agree with him, but hard to disagree with that summary.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 486 - 31/08/2015 15:21:52    1779084

McMahon and Connolly deserve to be banned for their actions. I have sympathy for Connolly as he was blocked but there was certainly intent in his striking (Keegan should have got black but, using the same yardstick, so should several Dublin players for blocking off runs during the game). COC did catch ROC but it would be difficult to argue intent. Let's hope that the referee is more on the ball from the start next sat. I'm sure that AOS would appreciate that. Gavin made a mistake to be so dismissive of the Fermanagh game as it highlighted the problems that came back to haunt him yesterday - Dublin failure to last 70 mins, their indiscipline in the tackle, and Cluxtons problems.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 31/08/2015 15:27:46    1779091

So it's all the fault of Tyrone & Jim McGuiness Hardcore, that is laughable, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just a quick question, back in 09 in the shambles of a match between Derry & Monaghan, when the great hero punditry, quoted so often by so many Monaghan people Brolly described Dick Clerkin as "only a messer" was that the fault of Tyrone or J McG?

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 31/08/2015 15:28:32    1779092