Yawn. bored with this thread now the ban was over turned McCann got away scot free like Sheils and the rest because as the rules state it was a yellow card offence, we still hate Rte and the southern media and they don't like us.
Now I would rather read the Irish News watch Bbc and watch sky sports and look forward to our match on Sunday look out Kerry the big bad rough nordies are coming

redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 167 - 20/08/2015 16:53:43    1773387

seanie_boy

Ritchie cork. You are a liar. I think I was the first person on the forum to condemn Tiernan Mc Canns play acting. Brendtheredhand was soon after. I hope you were equally appalled at Michael Shields for a similar stunt a short while ago? Or are you more offended at Mc Cann cos he's from "the north"? Yer self or anybody else who agrees with you need not bother yer selves answering cos the answer is clear by your failure to start a thread on Shields.

In all honesty do you actually believe that people are only condemning McCann purely because he is from the North? and if you do believe it then what is the reason for it?

Personally I'm condemning McCann because I thought his dive was one of the worst I've ever seen and I'm sick of it, but where he's from is meaningless to me and I can't understand why it would matter to me.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 20/08/2015 16:53:44    1773388

DorieCityFC
redbomb as pointed out on another feed dublin get less money per head of population than a lot of counties. That is a piece of lazy journalism.
Here are the figures for your enjoyment. Page 148 of the report i think.
http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/publications/annual_reports/GAA007_GAA_annual_report_2014_financial_section.pdf

Had a look at your link lets compare Dublin to the other 3 remaining Semi-finalists

Dublin - 2,108,947
Kerry - 689,516
Mayo - 613,225
Tyrone 383,763

You get more than all of them put together and then some...Its page 143

Find_the_space (Tyrone) - Posts: 313 - 20/08/2015 16:54:54    1773392

What is the point of having rules if they are not enforced? I'm sure that McCann will have been advised not to be so blatant in future, to closely watch a master,Cavanagh, at work and to learn from him. Keane must be a surprised man also

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 20/08/2015 16:54:54    1773393

seanie_boy
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3320

Please read all the posts on this tread.. I have called for sheilds to recieve the same two month ban to the point where i said that being that wouldnt affect championship i said he should receive a ban for first two championship games next year.and i saw that given that he got a shoulder in the back but held his face when he went to ground. But at least he got hit somewhere not on his hair follicals and yet i still think he should be banned to save my embarrassment. Please go back find the comments and i will await your response

Being that i am a liar do i take it that you BOTH like me called for him to be banned for the betterment of our game ???? That is the only method of condemnation i would be interested in. It would have shown your embarrassment and contempt for his actions.. And would have reflected my condemnation for sheilds dive .. a dive in my opinion cost us the game ..

I grew up watching cahalane.. mc carthy . thompkins .. fahy .. couninah.. in my world there is noooooooo place for diving..

So given that i havent read a single tyrone person in here saying the ban should stand i dispute the fact that im a liar.. Or does yer condemnation not have sanction ... In that case whats the point of the condemnation in the first place ..

Iv seen most tyrone people in here cling to this victim status with a vice like grip but not one person not one of all the posts in here are willing to state the truth ... Tyrone are the creators of their own situation !!! Why is that ..

In cork we were divided on the strikes.. A legacy that still lives with us today and still costing us today .. Plenty posters from cork commented on sheilds dive and called it for what it was .. How is it that not a single tyrone man/woman has the guts to talk straight talk the truth and say "to be fair we did this to our selves"

the list of incidents are long and distinguished and much discussed . Like it or not the reason no other county has the repetition of incidents of tyrone.. No team is perfect .. we all have talking points .. eg sheilds dive, but no team has the regularity of incident as tyrone and it spans the grades. Minor / u-21 / senior all have had bad press this year ... do you think thats an agenda ??? i saw the u/21 game and the press was warranted and i saw the monaghan game and the press was warranted... But thats right its everyone else's fault not yours !!!! You dont have the responsibility to play the game in the spirit the founders of the gaa had in mind !!!

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 20/08/2015 16:56:15    1773395

I don't play the victimisation card or care one bit about it to be honest & I couldn't care less about the southern media. Sure they would be delighted if we were going down to Dublin every august and taking a good beating and then going up the road with a big smile on our face. Donegal found this to be true a few years back.

Cork man - I don't know why your starting to make predictions about the Kerry game - sure you couldn't even give them a game the second day, was embarrassing. One thing is for sure - if we don't win on Sunday we wont quit... we might lie down for a minute or two but we wont quit haha.

tyronesaints (Tyrone) - Posts: 14 - 20/08/2015 17:33:43    1773414

I think it is right that the ban is overturned, but part of me wanted it to stand, the part that saw him dive as if he was shot in a tackle with another Monaghan player earlier in the second half and then the awful incident that sometime makes the game a farce.
Having said that McCann is also a victim in this incident, a victim of the gaa authorities failure to deal rationally and quickly with issues that obviously are a negative part of the game. No teams are innocent, Tyrone perhaps a bit worse than most, hardly much worse than Monaghan.
Last years semi final replay was pretty horrible to watch too.
The solution is only in rules and referee's which for the most are fairly poor, weak rules with weak refereeing. I have no clue what goes on with the disciplinary board but they seem to be as wishy washy as the games resolution authority.
Lets just hope for a decent game without the nonsense. As a poster put it earlier Tyrone were much better and really should have just closed out the game playing football, they would have won by more.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 261 - 20/08/2015 17:33:45    1773415

Media spark a charge, GAA reacts as GAA always reacts given the guys now in control. Guy gets off after media berates GAA and it goes on and on. The sad fact is the GAA is incapable of cleaning the game up oir of saving the game it will just die a slow sad death.
There simply is no place in any sport for what McCann did, whether he was charged on a technicality or let off on one is irrelevant, the sad fact is only in the GAA would you get people defending what he did.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 20/08/2015 17:48:36    1773425

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 2709

1773425
Media spark a charge, GAA reacts as GAA always reacts given the guys now in control. Guy gets off after media berates GAA and it goes on and on. The sad fact is the GAA is incapable of cleaning the game up oir of saving the game it will just die a slow sad death.
There simply is no place in any sport for what McCann did, whether he was charged on a technicality or let off on one is irrelevant, the sad fact is only in the GAA would you get people defending what he did

Thats as clear and as accurate as it gets to be fair. The game is dying .. What young fella would watch it now .. fellas like me are watching it for the sentimental reason of seeing a game like the good old days.

Its horrid stuff. And yes HQ carry a fair share of blame but so do the players for playing it the way its played now. People can say what they want about kerry but in fairness they try play it the way it should be played .. Dublin and mayo too. The rest of us would want to have a good hard look at ourselves..Im not even sure what cork play should be called football given the number of hand passes in it

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 20/08/2015 17:55:47    1773430

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 2709

1773425 Media spark a charge, GAA reacts as GAA always reacts given the guys now in control. Guy gets off after media berates GAA and it goes on and on. The sad fact is the GAA is incapable of cleaning the game up oir of saving the game it will just die a slow sad death.
There simply is no place in any sport for what McCann did, whether he was charged on a technicality or let off on one is irrelevant, the sad fact is only in the GAA would you get people defending what he did.

A tiny tiny minority defended what he did. ie almost nobody

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12351 - 20/08/2015 17:56:43    1773433

Only in the GAA would you have one county getting more than 3 times the development funds of 11 other counties in the province put together and call it a level playing field. How do Dublin swing this, what's the catch. More money for the best supported team? It dosen't seem to follow any pattern. One chunk for Dublin and the rest get the same relative pittance.
Fair play to them, only in the gaa.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 261 - 20/08/2015 18:11:30    1773447

Breffni

Dont go and spoil a good myth.

Dont you realise......
"Everyone in Tyrone thinks McCann should have dived twice as hard and hope that he continues to dive for many years to come."

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 20/08/2015 18:15:01    1773451

The most important thing to come out of this saga would be for the referee next sunday to ruthlessly deal with any diving, simulation, sledging or other shameful antics that are to prevalent in the modern game. If he were to dish out plenty of yellow and black cards early on we might be left with enough players on the pitch who actually want to play the game the way the public would like it to be played.
Can I see that happening? Sadly no and another turgid game devoid of all that is so good about our game is more likely.

murof (Kildare) - Posts: 480 - 20/08/2015 18:15:45    1773452

jonno

That is just a cop out, many used the cover of Brolly's comments, many used all manner of arguments to turn it into Ulster versus the rest LOL. Just look how the thread went, far too many posters on here are like sheep, some of them very popular! But sheep., only good sheep are black ones.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 20/08/2015 18:24:05    1773458

tyronesaints
County: Tyrone
Posts: 8

1773414
I don't play the victimisation card or care one bit about it to be honest & I couldn't care less about the southern media. Sure they would be delighted if we were going down to Dublin every august and taking a good beating.....

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I presume that you are Ulsterman having made up an alter ego account, Tyronesaints. Not many others would have a chip on their shoulder this size.

Anyway, listen to yourself man. I thought that this kind of victimisation rubbish went out with the troubles. There were Tyrone heads on here all week going to great lengths to point out articles in 'the southern media' backing McCann. James Horan, Bomber Liston, Malachy Clerkin (who had previously slated Tyrone) and even a tweet from chief protagonist and arch villain himself, Joe Brolly. But sure don't let the blind hypocrisy get in the way of a good southern Ireland rant.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4743 - 20/08/2015 18:49:06    1773467

The appeal went as I expected so where do the Gaa go from here?? Lots of things to do IMO.
Saw the dive for the first time last night---- really bad. Let's hope he learns and at least he has been treated same as all the other divers over the years. What was the point in hanging him out to dry ?? Plus trying to change course mid season But let's face it no excuse next year I expect the GAA to act now. Plenty of rules / penalties to be updated. Red card for what happened on Sunday in the hurling and in both codes. Also what about technology? Would a second ref help. One in each half able to communicate with one another
Ritchie
I really like the type of game you would like to see being played---- hatchet stuff and them killing one another.
I well remember those finals, we're not much to write home about, plenty of thuggery , spiteful and bad tempered.
I can take you back to a few games played inside the last 5 years and they were as cynical as you would wish to see
Mayo v Down quarter final 2012. Even that Mayo were winning easily any time the down players tried to build an attack they were hauled down Just look at the game again
Same in the 2013 final and in the last five minutes Dublin repeatedly hauled down the Mayo player when they had the ball.
Last year's replay Mayo v Kerry. Plenty of cynical play and indeed fisticuffs. So we can't blame Tyrone for all that is wrong in the GAA
But tell you what it won't put me off following football and I am looking forward again to next year's Ulster championship. Can't wait. Maybe we might draw Tyrone again

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 20/08/2015 20:45:07    1773539

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 2711

1773425
Media spark a charge, GAA reacts as GAA always reacts given the guys now in control. Guy gets off after media berates GAA and it goes on and on. The sad fact is the GAA is incapable of cleaning the game up oir of saving the game it will just die a slow sad death.
There simply is no place in any sport for what McCann did, whether he was charged on a technicality or let off on one is irrelevant, the sad fact is only in the GAA would you get people defending what he did.
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Fair enough, please show me where people have defended Tiernans actions, just one will do for now?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 20/08/2015 20:48:01    1773542

murof
County: Kildare
Posts: 461

1773452
The most important thing to come out of this saga would be for the referee next sunday to ruthlessly deal with any diving, simulation, sledging or other shameful antics that are to prevalent in the modern game. If he were to dish out plenty of yellow and black cards early on we might be left with enough players on the pitch who actually want to play the game the way the public would like it to be played.
Can I see that happening? Sadly no and another turgid game devoid of all that is so good about our game is more likely.
_____________________________
Just next Sunday then yeah?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 20/08/2015 20:49:55    1773543

Ritchie Cork. Catch yourself on. Who do you think you are kidding by suggesting a 2 game ban for Shields.Thats quite handy given that his season is over and it's a nonsense to suggest it should apply to his next 2 games next year. He,like Mc Cann,is guilty of a yellow card offense,why can't some of you simply see that? If the gaa want to make such infractions carry a bigger penalty I for one would support it. Most Tyrone gaa people would support it also. We don't like to see this type of nonsense anymore than you do. I won't for one minute though,concede that our player should receive a harsher and precedent setting punishment,while your boy Shields and other offenders get no punishment at all. Why in gods name would we hang our own out to dry? We leave that to other pundits and the gaa hierarchy. We stick together "up here". I'm sure you know that. I still couldn't find your thread calling on Shields to be banned. Is it 500 plus posts strong like the one on Tyrones Tiernan Mc Cann? I'll direct you to James Horans and Eoin Listons comments on our perceived victimization,were they both say it is real. Their opinions carry a little more weight with me. Certainly more than some random poster on an internet forum.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 20/08/2015 21:01:23    1773552

Redbomb well done. Best post on this subject

Yawn. bored with this thread now the ban was over turned McCann got away scot free like Sheils and the rest because as the rules state it was a yellow card offence, we still hate Rte and the southern media and they don't like us.
Now I would rather read the Irish News watch Bbc and watch sky sports and look forward to our match on Sunday look out Kerry the big bad rough nordies are coming

Bring on the New GAA

IsMise (Tyrone) - Posts: 119 - 20/08/2015 21:07:26    1773557