TyroneLegend78
County: Tyrone
Posts: 40

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orouke and Whelan must feel a bit stupid now

Why would that be? Another poster not getting it....Neither of them called for this ban and RTE didn't employ some dark anti tyrone tactic. More that Tyrone don't seem to accept criticism well. If the ban was upheld (never was gonna happen) it wouldnt be the fault of the media but the fault of the system that would be swayed by media. O'Rourke and Whelan and heaps of others are paid for opinions (right or wrong) and that's what they give. For the record I personally don't think there was a thing wrong with what O'Rourke said as he gave deserved compliments to Tyrone too. McCann needed to be called out for what he did, it was a new low for diving in football. The attention he got should have been so embarrassing for him that he would never think of doing so again. Lesson learned and hopefully every other footballer learned that lesson too.

For next year, scrap the black card. The egg chasers officiate their game well I think we could learn from them i.e., TMO and sin bins.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 20/08/2015 10:41:38    1772997

Can I ask the question,
'If O'Rourke didn't have his outbrust' would we know or care about this!!!!
What McCann did was wrong - but the reaction was away over the top...... in my day we break a man'jaw not dive - what a comment!!!

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 20/08/2015 10:50:44    1773010

DoireCityFC
County: Derry
Posts: 874

1772992 tyronemanc and i have never attacked or trolled a single person on here. I give my opinion on events as how I see it and try unlike alot in cases to back it up with stats, facts, figures and precident.(maybe not as much on this issue as it has really struck a nerve with me as I see diving as something that could kill the game i love) Although I do get a lot of personal gibes thrown at me in relation to soccer from tyrone users which i find strange.....considering one pointed out to me that there was a soccer forum on here and I even noticed some had posted on it.
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Hats off to DoireCity

Agreed with most of what you had to say

They are too far gone man...

Sure they are handing over their own money to fund this sort of carry on

If I paid into Club Tyrone I'd want my feckin money back!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 20/08/2015 10:54:17    1773014

We should all just step back from this thing now, and hope that the authorities and players can learn from it.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3846 - 20/08/2015 11:04:24    1773022

RTE's analysis of Tyrone's behaviour in general and McCann's behaviour specifically was fair. The proposed ban was wrong. Under rule Tiernana McCann should have been free to play in the upcoming semi final. The matter has finally been dealt with as per rule and that is as it should be. The matter is now closed. A semi final now beckons. Hopefully Tyrone will play the way they can for seventy minutes. Hopefully the cynical side of their nature will not manifest itself . Finally it is to be hoped that the rules will be revisited and a proper deterrent will be put in place in relation to feigning injury.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 20/08/2015 11:19:15    1773038

cuchulainn35

Can I ask the question,
'If O'Rourke didn't have his outbrust' would we know or care about this!!!!

Absolutely, I rarely ever watch analysis so I didn't hear his outburst, the last proper outburst I heard was from Brolly about Cavanagh 2 years ago and for the record I didn't condone his tackle but I admitted most players would have done the same thing and so would I, I certainly didn't jump on the Brolly bandwagon.

This is different however, I found his dive both disgraceful and embarrassing and felt that he should have received a ban and I came to that conclusion by myself without influence from the media, believe it or not forming an opinion without the media is possible. Granted 8 weeks is excessive but I also understand that there's no rule to support the ban so I can see why it was overturned, but I do find it a pity because McCann shouldn't get away with this and hopefully a new rule is brought out to enforce at least 1 match ban for such cringeworthy diving.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 20/08/2015 11:20:37    1773041

jimbodub give over man have a look below a lot of our money is also funding Dublin aswell

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-claiming-the-bulk-of-gaa-s-development-funds-1.2091641

redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 167 - 20/08/2015 11:22:22    1773043

something that could kill the game i love)

Diving and simulation has always been part of the game whether we like it or not, what I would be more concerned about killing the game is the quangos that are actually running the disciplinary side of things. The decision to ban McCann without the power to do so and to rescind the card for Keane when it was the correct decision shows how much of a shambles it is. If we can not get it right at the top level how do we get it right at club level???

tyronemanc (Tyrone) - Posts: 163 - 20/08/2015 11:25:45    1773045

redbomb as pointed out on another feed dublin get less money per head of population than a lot of counties. That is a piece of lazy journalism.

Here are the figures for your enjoyment. Page 148 of the report i think.

http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/publications/annual_reports/GAA007_GAA_annual_report_2014_financial_section.pdf

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 20/08/2015 11:28:28    1773051

Glad he got off. Wrong man before the committee last night. No mention of Duffy's performance standing a few yards away in full sight of an innocuous incident sending one of our players off in the vital closing minutes of a match.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1885 - 20/08/2015 11:32:27    1773055

The best thing that could happen now would be for Kerry, playing the kind of football we know they are capable of playing, to absolutely humiliate Tyrone and beat them off the park with their full team by 20+ points.


At the end of the day its football skills that should win out and be rewarded. Dublin, Kerry and Mayo at least try to win matches in the right way playing football and not playing with the edges of sportsmanship and the rules like Tyrone habitually do.

I really hope Tyrone get battered out the gate next weekend. Its the only way that justice (natural) would prevail.

Beacaire Gorm (Dublin) - Posts: 597 - 20/08/2015 11:36:39    1773060

As time goes on it becomes more apparent that Mr Duffy was the cause of a lot of the messing which got totally out of hand near the end.
Players wont mess if they know they wont get away with it.
After last night it is obvious that he made some vital calls wrong.
The two biggest howlers....
1- The black card to Meyler was a bad decision. There are two camera angles to this and I have a feeling that the SG only showed one where it could be construed that Meyler pulled the Monaghan player down. However from another angle it is obvious that the Monaghan player had all the impetus, continued his run after Meyler had passed the ball, tried to block Meyler's run and then as the two of them fell he threw up his hands to feign innocence. Meyler was trying to go round him but couldnt avoid contact and instinctively grabbed him as he fell. If you look carefully you can see Meyler change his stride and trying to sidestep just before contact.
2 - How could Duffy make any judgement on the McCann dive when he wasn't looking at the time. He was writing in his notebook presumably about a foul Hughes had just committed on Colm Cavanagh. Is there any mention of that in the report? Marty maybe changed his story later on to suit the media narrative as after all he didn't have to send in his report to the next day.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 20/08/2015 11:39:29    1773065

dcfc I live in Dublin and know that less than 1/3 of the population partake in or even like Gaa so to say what I have produced is lazy is just wrong the fact is there as an equal association Dublin are better funded from the HQ

redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 167 - 20/08/2015 11:41:30    1773067

I'm glad McCann got off it's the right decision how they could propose an 8 week ban for that incident was crazy. now there can be no more excuses let's get on with the build up to the game These kangaroo courts are a joke .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 20/08/2015 11:41:47    1773068

I would like to think that Tiernan AND the GAA have learnt their lesson from this episode. Its all water under the bridge now and we have a huge game against the reigning AI champions to focus on now and that's really where its at.

Incidentally, I may have missed it but at what stage have Dublin GAA been appointed the moral guardians of the GAA, because judging by the majority of posters on here it must have occurred some time ago? Just putting it out there like.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 20/08/2015 11:49:08    1773077

HAHAHAHAHA

mmdtc2011 (Tyrone) - Posts: 125 - 20/08/2015 11:51:33    1773080

How many nationaly partake? Is it more than a 1/3 in tyrone?

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 20/08/2015 11:54:56    1773087

SamOnErrigal
County: Donegal
Posts: 843

The men i was discussing were the men on the field that saturday. I dont know everyone in Tyrone so cant comment on them all. You will find most people in all counties have good people but can we concentrate on the point at hand.

I dont care what anyone in here says and i dont care what happened to over turn it last night but ill tell you one thing. What mc gann did was an affront to the sport iv loved since 1985. It was shameful it was gutless and it was cheating. Anyone that says different doesnt love our game and are happy to see it degenerate the way it is.

I saw someone post in here recently that football wasnt in a bad place.. That is laughable .. Its the hardest watching ever .. while skills and speed have increased the game has gone shocking with blanket defenses and 14 men behind the ball. Its not go out and win the game its go out and stop the others winning its bloody awful stuff ..

Regarding the sacrifices made in the north. It is commendable the efforts made and i do applaud them and mourn those lost over the decades of hostility . However these sacrifices are made for those around you and your community and your county and head office doesnt owe you a debt of gratitude for sacrificing for the sport you love. And yes it still is a privilege to be part of the gaa community but with that privilege comes respect and Mr Mc Gann showed none to his follow gaa brother from monaghan

What difference what ref is appointed ?? How should that have a bearing on the game. Are you saying tyrone will act differently depending which ref is on the field ?? Refs will get calls wrong its always been part of the sport. I remember a game cork played against kerry in the 90's and we were wondering was his brain sending his hands the wrong way when he blew the whistle.. But dont try to tell me that its the refs fault what happened in that game for the last 15 mins.. Tyrone couldnt back them selves to see out the game so dragged it into a farce for the last 15 mins

Regarding the U-21 FINAL.. Tipp were right .. watch the game.

Donegal were rightly slated in 2011 but were rightly applauded in 2012 for their eveloution. The took the critisms and changed their game. sign of a good team and manager..Tyrone learned nothing from 2013 till now.. Same stuff same antics

Ithink you would get some hop if you saw the lack of support if tyrone pulled out and i hope kerry put them out cause at this stage im sick of it .. Im sick of the crap that is associated to them and i hope they change. Look at the number of post on this subject and look at some of the content of the tyrone posts.

Siege mentality !!!!! seriously who cares at this stage too many bridges burned

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 20/08/2015 11:56:57    1773090

Whatever peoples opinions are i can tell you wont thing for sure is that the GAA have once again made a total and utter clusterf;;; of the whole situation.

The knee jerk reactions of the people who run our organisation as opposed to the actual pro active job of running tand managing the game properly is terrible.

Make no bones about it this whole situation is a result of the very deliberate actions of the organisation themselves. They have set out the rules, they are the ones who have actively encouraged diving as part of the black card regime, they are the ones who refuse to full address the issues at hand rather responding to which ever the wind seems to be blowing in regards to the public conciousness.

Hopefully a lesson will be learned and proper measures introduced ti improve the game not the half ar$ed measures we ahve seen to date such as the black card.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 20/08/2015 12:08:50    1773106

McCann was always gonna get off. If Diarmuid Connolly had done it there would have been uproar if we won an appeal. GAA favouring the Dubs etc.

Some things to note:

-The GAA rulebook is a farce
-How does it take two weeks to have a hearing?
-Tiernan McCann didnt even get a yellow card for DIVING.
-McCann looks very foolish
--The defence of McCann and Tyrones general attitude towards discipline leaves a lot to be desired.
-The GAA need to reform discipline procedures.....the current system is shocking. Its backwards guys just appeal and get off all the time.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 20/08/2015 12:30:27    1773124