The article in the Sunday Independent today by Eamonn Sweeney on his " hold the back Page " column and entitled ...Moral panic has bitter flavour.... well read it as it says it all. I met a twit yesterday who accused Tyrone of every torture sent to earth since the famine. He couldent have enough time to say enough bad. He is yer typical mouth that you find in every county. They only crawl out from under the boards during the championship. Never went to a GAA match until their kids were old enough to take them there. Today I met the opposite to that. A genuine Monaghan GAA fan. He said that some of the stuff he saw was disgusting. He said that Kieran Hughes got the nasties going by running into young Meyler and drawing him to foul off the ball to get him sent off. He said if the Hughes had have concentrated on their football that Monaghan could have at least made a contest about it. He thought Mc Cann was totally stupid as we all do but not deserving of an eight week ban. And he said that they other avenue left to Mc Cann was to either walk away or floor Hughes . The later was what Hughes was looking him to do. This is typical of what people think. When Monaghan go out I always support my fellow Ulstermen and near neighbours Tyrone. I am really looking forward to next Sunday. Tyrone gave us all much to cheer about in Croke park before and I hope that those days are on the way back. when the chips are down we all want our fellow Ulstermen to represent us all. We ( Monaghan ) got that chance and failed.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 910 - 16/08/2015 20:53:30    1771109

Good post border Gael and indeed you are right , every county has these type of supporters, including ourselves. To be honest I thought Myler should not have got a black card, if anything a yellow each. I was disappointed with Monaghan as I thought they might have won the game but that's how it goes but fair play to your honesty and like myself always have supported whatever Ulster county is left standing
Hopefully we will see the end to this fiasco this week and have T McCann on the field of play on Sunday next.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 16/08/2015 21:15:29    1771130

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Maybe we are beginning to see sense here if we can go by the last few posts.
On another note , in today's hurling and the Galway back pulling down the Tipp FF for the penalty, what is the card. I know he got a yellow card, but if that was done in football I suspect the offender would get a black card
Once again I ask a question---- What was the difference between that foul and what S Cavanagh done to C McManus two years ago ?? None in my opinion and indeed with Tipp only getting a point it probablycost them the game
Another question --- Will there be an outcry?, will one of the TV pundits go to town on the Galway Full back similar to what Btolly done to SC ? What will the papers say about it tomorrow. ??
At the same time CONGRATULATIONS GALWAY. indeed it was a great game.

Couldnt agree with you more lad. The Galway full back did the exact same as Sean Cavanagh did 2 years ago, and in fact it did cost tipp the match as it was a certain goal from a lad who had 3-4 from play at that stage. Serves to show the RTE dislike for all things tyrone.

conman1282 (Tyrone) - Posts: 88 - 17/08/2015 08:25:38    1771161

The Kerry lads must be loving all this talk about Tyrone and Tiernan McCann.

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 17/08/2015 09:33:41    1771183

Nothing against Tyrone or McCann, but um delighted with the ban, in principal. This behavior has to be stamped out, more than anything else in the GAA. I hope now, they'll apply it to every match and team, not just for incidents highlighted by rte.
I agree with the sentiments re the comparisons between cavanaghs tackle and the Galway tackle yesterday. I thought he shouldve got the line anyway. He would have if he gave him a dainty tap on the helmet, but nearly break a mans neck and your grand

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 17/08/2015 10:03:51    1771208

Will there be a media outcry claiming that John Hanbury brought the game into disrepute? Will Ciaran Whelan demand that he make a public apology? Not a chance!! Football pundits need to have a look at their hurling counterparts!!

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 17/08/2015 10:13:12    1771223

Whats the story at the minute? He has been banned, or a ban proposed? He will win the appeal anyway and rightly so but, this whole discliplinary process has become a farce. If something gets highlighted by the Sunday game the CCCC will take action.

When Seamus Callanan was pulled down rugby style for the penalty yesterday I didnt see any pundit questioning his 'manhood' a lá Brolly with Sean Cavanagh.

Speaking as a Kerryman I think its a disgrace that the ban is even being proposed. The lads on the Sunday Game go off spouting about it and there's a national outcry so the CCCC propose a suspension that will never stick. Anyway if you do bring in retrospective action for diving who decides what is and isnt a dive?

Should big lads be allowed to be hit harder before they can go down? Can someone like Donaghy or Murphy get a box in the face before they can go down while Ross Mullenly or our own Paul Murphy get a slap?

aido_d (Kerry) - Posts: 16 - 17/08/2015 10:16:37    1771229

This, I fear plays into Tyrone's hands, like Clare in the hurling, build up the us v them mentality.

Kerry v Tyrone I truly hope they both lose....its a pity Dublin / Mayo ain't the final

As the McCann, I think Tyrone and Mickey Harte handled this badly. Am sure both the he, Harte and the rest of the team knew it was not good, its was done in a spur of the moment thing, and if he had come out and simply said that, and says he regrets how it went down, it would have gone all away.

Wait and you see Sunday, Kerry will niggle Tytone from the start and when the Tyrone player drops the screams of diving will ring out. So Kerry will be away with blue murder.

My only prediction for Sunday with be that, like in 2011, Donaghy should be sent off but won't be.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 17/08/2015 10:20:07    1771234

Witnof
Were you up a tree outside Fitzgeralds stadium kid? What makes you think Star will start on Sunday? The team won't be named till Thursday night so any info would be great.
Why don't you tell the good people on hoganstand about ger Brennan's attempted decapatation of Declan O'sullivan ? Was that a sending off ? What did the Star do that makes you reckon he should have been sent off in 2011?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/08/2015 12:13:15    1771324

Pdempsy
What has happened with tyrones diving this year has nothing to do with us here in Kerry, we have our minds on our own game , in fairness if this suits any1 it suits dubs and mayo. No talk of that semifinal. Keeping ye under the radar.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/08/2015 13:02:31    1771363

Hopefully the Tiernan McCann issue will be dealt with fast this week and put to one side, in fairness any sort of ban for the lad would be totally unfair on him and Tyrone as we have seen similiar dives with no such punishment being proposed.
Two incidents come to mind Micheal Shields against Kerry in the first game and A O Mahony against Cork in 2008 i think it was. Both players dived trying to get their opponent sent off with little or no contact and its strange how the GAA can have one rule for McCann and nothing for the other two incidents i have mentioned.
His proposed 8 week ban should be overturned as soon as possible this week and then hopefully the attention should be turned back to the actual game and forget all this nonsense abuse this player is getting. I think he should allowed make one mistake and then if he repeats such antics in the future then he would deserve the criticism he has received.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 17/08/2015 13:46:08    1771396

Pat spilliane was the first exponant of diving in the gaa. Pat openly admitted to feigning injury in the 19 80 all Ireland final. Pat rolled around dramatically before eventually rising to his feet and shaking his head vigorously Like a wet dog. It has happened many times since and in many county jerseys including my own. (Dolan got ray connelly sent off for mayo in 01, almost a replica of McCann incident) no outcry though. Mayo Kerry cork and more have had comical diving episodes since to no villainous outcry.

The crass media campaign against Tyrone is nothing short of shameful. The media worship Dublin/Kerry in equal measure And they are above reproach . I for one would love to see Tyrone win on Sunday and put the media spinsters in their place. Up Tyrone.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 17/08/2015 13:49:14    1771399

Pat spilliane was the first exponant of diving in the gaa. Pat openly admitted to feigning injury in the 19 80 all Ireland final. Pat rolled around dramatically before eventually rising to his feet and shaking his head vigorously Like a wet dog. It has happened many times since and in many county jerseys including my own. (Dolan got ray connelly sent off for mayo in 01, almost a replica of McCann incident) no outcry though. Mayo Kerry cork and more have had comical diving episodes since to no villainous outcry.

The crass media campaign against Tyrone is nothing short of shameful. The media worship Dublin/Kerry in equal measure And they are above reproach . I for one would love to see Tyrone win on Sunday and put the media spinsters in their place. Up Tyrone.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 17/08/2015 13:50:14    1771401

Ah leave poor aul Pat out of it.

He has had a quiet summer so far but dont worry he will come out with something before the championship is over and then you can have a go at him.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 17/08/2015 14:11:47    1771423

I have read most of the posts about the McCann dive and the suggested punishment but I have not seen anyone comment on the actions of the Tyrone medical team which quite an amount of time treating McCanns face thus implying that he had got a heavy whack to the face. Surely this makes them complicit in the act of cheating and should be dealt with. Maybe we need clarification on this from Joe Brolly or maybe Jose Mourinho

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 17/08/2015 14:36:57    1771449

@salvador: I've never forgiven Frankie for his play acting in 2001. He was some pup.

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 17/08/2015 14:44:04    1771454

People are missing the point here big time regarding this McCann issue, he was wrong, 31 counties know he was wrong, but no county will ever admit one of their own is wrong. So Tyrone fans come out and as they cant justifiably defend him they use the line that there is a witch hunt against them and other northern teams. There is no anti Tyrone or other county for that matter. I also don't agree with the 8 week ban, it wouldn't stick and it wouldn't be effective in the long run. I don't agree with banning players retrospectively anyway. All games should have the same level of professionalism, be it a Junior D league game in my local pitch or the All Ireland final in Croke Park. Therefore every game should be decided on the pitch and not in a committee room after the event. If a player gets a retrospective ban follow a incident in the first few minutes but his team win by a point could the losing team not justifiable argue that if the player was dealt with correctly by the referee then they could have won and the game should at least be replayed. There are 4 umpires, 2 linesmen and a ref on the pitch, they have less than 5 people each to keep an eye on, the standard of steward ship needs to improved. It is tried and tested practice that you foul when the ref cant see you, as the linesmen and umpires never seem to say anything. How often have you been at a game where the full back and the full forward spend the whole game at one another and yet the umpires never once brings it to the refs attention and its right in front of him. If linesmen and umpires were continuingly informing the ref on what they could see then it would stop off the ball fouling and the diving. Also this would have a knock on effect on club matches, where at the minute in a club match you know if the ref doesn't catch you in the act you will never be caught as it is rare any CCC will look over video evidence from club matches.

anto_meath (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 17/08/2015 14:46:41    1771457

Whose this Tiernan McCann lad and what did he do?

JackoDub (Dublin) - Posts: 458 - 17/08/2015 14:59:17    1771466

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1771396 Hopefully the Tiernan McCann issue will be dealt with fast this week and put to one side, in fairness any sort of ban for the lad would be totally unfair on him and Tyrone as we have seen similiar dives with no such punishment being proposed.


Well you have to start somewhere

He should be banned and I hope he's justly punished

Perhaps 8 weeks is too long... but an example needs to be set

It should have happened years ago

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 17/08/2015 15:03:35    1771471

I agree we have to start somewhere but why didnt they introduce a clear rule that every player will be banned if they act in such a way.

Bit unfair to punish McCann and the likes of shields getting away scot free when both incidents were clearly dives with the aim of getting their opponent sent off.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 17/08/2015 15:42:36    1771518