jayp ..people cant argue about the moral high ground then hide away when dublin players might be punished?..would tyrone have been offered the same pass?..i highly doubt it and the evidence is there for all to see...the armagh players involved should receive bans towards next years championship and if there is solid video evidence then the people responsible especially for byrnes injury should receive a lengthy ban

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 16/07/2015 17:21:43    1754500

I didn't take any moral high ground Fabio.

Unfortunately you miss the point. If the players had been banned prior to last weekends fixtures, players from both teams, I would have applauded the outcome as it had been dealt with promptly and sends a clear message about this kind of behavior. But to wait 12 days to launch an investigation.... The horse has bolted.

Now it looks like a witch hunt that will only result in meaningful bans to Dublin players.

I don't wanna see or hear about incidents like this, but the GAA like usual look foolish in their approach. I don't blame Dublin for closing ranks and going into defensive mode on this, too little too late. The GAA took 12 days to begin an investigation into an assault that left a Dublin player in hospital, and only did so because of media pressure. They clearly don't have Byrnes health and safety a priority.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 16/07/2015 17:37:26    1754512

The investigation is definitely late in starting.....
Better late than never though.

ALSO .. has anyone considered the possibility that the GAA couldnt do anything without evidence and that this evidence may only have emerged in recent days??????

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 16/07/2015 17:59:18    1754528

i dont think the gaa were gonna be able to hand out bans so quickly...armagh can still receive harsh punishment which will effect the championship or league next season...this has turned into a situation all about protecting dublin players who have done something wrong or not i dont know but some people seem to think they have...at end of day the people responsible for any injuries caused should be punished if something serious happened...not big on slating the gaa as its an easy thing to do but the mcbreaty incident nothing happened afterward and this seems to be yet another thing that will be ignored

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 16/07/2015 18:23:26    1754547

Without judging rights or wrongs.

Can anyone point to a time when a player got a ban following a challenge match at inter county?

Armaghball (Armagh) - Posts: 96 - 16/07/2015 18:38:42    1754558

i presume the evidence wasnt made available to them

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 16/07/2015 18:57:37    1754563

16/07/2015 14:02:57
TheRightStuff
Ormond - you referenced the number three through the figure 3 . By the letter of the law that is also wrong . Your clearly insecure about so many things , that you need to point out others mistakes .
Everybody on HS would agree that you are a WUM , you simply pose arguements to everyone for the sake of it . I'd honestly have no interest in replying to you . referencing a number through the figure 3 is not actually wrong. What I pointed out is actually wrong. Im not a WUM
Im not insecure at all.
16/07/2015 17:09:47 gotmilk
Ormo why do you insist on putting people down? why do you insist on putting me down by calling me by the wrong name/name that isn't me
16/07/2015 18:38:42 Armaghball
Can anyone point to a time when a player got a ban following a challenge match at inter county? don't have a specific incident to mind but there has certainly been precedent as incidents in friendlies do count wrt bans and have been in gaa rules for a number of years

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/07/2015 19:42:57    1754580

You know it's been a boring Championship

The Circus is in town!

WWE has less dramatics

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 16/07/2015 19:48:53    1754586

Maybe in Leinster Liam.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 16/07/2015 19:52:20    1754589

The GAA is simply reacting to the media on this, belatedly very belatedly which makes a mockery of the GAA motive, been seen to do something is more important than actually doing anything. A player WAS badly injured and the subsequent behaviour of both teams management leaves an awful lot to be desired. It is also common knowledge around Dublin who the Dublin players are and these are important players for Dublin, but that also CANNOT be the reason for going after these players. It is either the right/wrong thing to do in the first place - not 12 days later when its common knowledge who the players are. I am of two minds about this, happens lenght and breath of the country but if a player is injured, badly then it is common assault and the police are the only ones empowered to deal with this. Too many in the GAA think its all just their own business and that they are above the law they are not. No excuse for violence - anywehere.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 16/07/2015 20:16:56    1754606

It's a shortened version of your name. Chill out lad. But i've noticed on a few threads you treat people who don't agree with you with complete disregard and then to go picking on someones grammar. I've never met you in person but I imagine you are a nasty enough sort of guy.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 16/07/2015 20:45:35    1754617

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 9896

1754580 16/07/2015 14:02:57
TheRightStuff
Ormond - you referenced the number three through the figure 3 . By the letter of the law that is also wrong . Your clearly insecure about so many things , that you need to point out others mistakes .
Everybody on HS would agree that you are a WUM , you simply pose arguements to everyone for the sake of it . I'd honestly have no interest in replying to you . referencing a number through the figure 3 is not actually wrong. What I pointed out is actually wrong. Im not a WUM
Im not insecure at all.

Its a GAA forum , not an acadmeic paper. Others had no problem interpreting my post but your obvious snobby nature found it necessary to insult me and my intelligence . I sent the original post of a phone whih may explain some of it . There are much better writers on here than you that wouldnt bother correcting what are fairly harmless grammar/punctuation mistakes. Your life must be fasinating when you feel the need to remark on this.

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 16/07/2015 20:59:12    1754628

Ok ormondbannerman, since you think a sports forum is the right place to correct people's grammar, here's a few corrections for you in relation to one of your posts; a sentence should begin with a capital letter, it's not its, you forgot the full stop at the end of said sentence, do you 'not understand what a full stop is'? as you so condescendingly queried yourself and finally, you forgot the question mark at the end of your question.

'well its completely wrong
Anyway what exactly do you want the GPA to do in this situation'

If you're going to be so quick to slate other people for what you consider to be bad punctuation, I'd recommend you take the time to proof read your own comments first.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 16/07/2015 21:04:39    1754630

'Im not a WUM Im not insecure at all.'

I'm x 2.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 16/07/2015 21:07:28    1754633

Want some water for that burn Ormo?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 16/07/2015 21:15:54    1754639

16/07/2015 20:45:35 gotmilk
It's a shortened version of your name. Chill out lad. But i've noticed on a few threads you treat people who don't agree with you with complete disregard and then to go picking on someones grammar. I've never met you in person but I imagine you are a nasty enough sort of guy. why should I have to accept being called something I find disrespectful?
Why should I have to accept not being called the correct name. ormondbannerman, Ormond for short.
you know nothing about me and judging by how you have kept on deliberately calling me ormo when I have been asking to be called Ormond or ormondbannerman then I have to say the same about you. you are a nasty enough person aswell
16/07/2015 20:59:12 TheRightStuff
Its a GAA forum , not an acadmeic paper. Others had no problem interpreting my post but your obvious snobby nature found it necessary to insult me and my intelligence . I sent the original post of a phone whih may explain some of it . There are much better writers on here than you that wouldnt bother correcting what are fairly harmless grammar/punctuation mistakes. Your life must be fasinating when you feel the need to remark on this. its easier to read a post without all these gaps. all the extra spaces require way more time.
16/07/2015 21:04:39 CroiGorm
Ok ormondbannerman, since you think a sports forum is the right place to correct people's grammar, here's a few corrections for you in relation to one of your posts; a sentence should begin with a capital letter, it's not its, you forgot the full stop at the end of said sentence, do you 'not understand what a full stop is'? as you so condescendingly queried yourself and finally, you forgot the question mark at the end of your question.
'well its completely wrong
Anyway what exactly do you want the GPA to do in this situation'
If you're going to be so quick to slate other people for what you consider to be bad punctuation, I'd recommend you take the time to proof read your own comments first. Fair enough. I only don't use capitals at times as it doesn't work half the time du to button being an issue
16/07/2015 21:15:54 gotmilk
Want some water for that burn Ormo? any chance you will call me by my correct name for a change even one single time. ormondbannerman or Ormond for short

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/07/2015 21:36:00    1754650

Ormo how can you be taken seriously when you don't even have the correct county in your name? Can I ask if you are an only child or the youngest in your house? BTW Ormo you don't get to chose your nickname. No one ever does. Why do you find Ormo offensive?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 16/07/2015 21:41:17    1754653

16/07/2015 21:36:00
ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 9897

1754650
16/07/2015 20:45:35 gotmilk
It's a shortened version of your name. Chill out lad. But i've noticed on a few threads you treat people who don't agree with you with complete disregard and then to go picking on someones grammar. I've never met you in person but I imagine you are a nasty enough sort of guy. why should I have to accept being called something I find disrespectful?
Why should I have to accept not being called the correct name. ormondbannerman, Ormond for short.
you know nothing about me and judging by how you have kept on deliberately calling me ormo when I have been asking to be called Ormond or ormondbannerman then I have to say the same about you. you are a nasty enough person aswell
16/07/2015 20:59:12 TheRightStuff
Its a GAA forum , not an acadmeic paper. Others had no problem interpreting my post but your obvious snobby nature found it necessary to insult me and my intelligence . I sent the original post of a phone whih may explain some of it . There are much better writers on here than you that wouldnt bother correcting what are fairly harmless grammar/punctuation mistakes. Your life must be fasinating when you feel the need to remark on this. its easier to read a post without all these gaps. all the extra spaces require way more time.
16/07/2015 21:04:39 CroiGorm
Ok ormondbannerman, since you think a sports forum is the right place to correct people's grammar, here's a few corrections for you in relation to one of your posts; a sentence should begin with a capital letter, it's not its, you forgot the full stop at the end of said sentence, do you 'not understand what a full stop is'? as you so condescendingly queried yourself and finally, you forgot the question mark at the end of your question.
'well its completely wrong
Anyway what exactly do you want the GPA to do in this situation'
If you're going to be so quick to slate other people for what you consider to be bad punctuation, I'd recommend you take the time to proof read your own comments first. Fair enough. I only don't use capitals at times as it doesn't work half the time du to button being an issue
16/07/2015 21:15:54 gotmilk
Want some water for that burn Ormo? any chance you will call me by my correct name for a change even one single time. ormondbannerman or Ormond for short

You need to relax Mondo. You take yourself too serious

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 16/07/2015 21:54:37    1754665

Just talking as a club player I used to hate challenge matches for a lot of reasons.

One of the main ones was that there was always the chance of a lay person refereeing the game and all hell breaking loose. There was one club in our county that I'd come up with excuses to avoid togging out against because they'd do serious damage to you.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 17/07/2015 10:14:05    1754716

gotmilk
County: Fermanagh
Posts: 2172

1754493
Ormo why do you insist on putting people down?

Or

Ormo why do you insist on posting on here when the GAA isn't really your thing? I know if I used a bar for socialising and the people sighed every time I came in I would probably start going somewhere else.

Sorry for going off topic and helping it being taken over by a huge ego. As regards the investigation, possibly a bit unfair to say that everyone calling for action is doing so out of spite against Dublin and to try and derail their campaign (no doubt some are doing so for this very reason). By not acting quicker the GAA has allowed this theory to gather legs, if there are big suspensions handed out and I have no idea if there should or should not be and who would receive them, what happens the next time all hell breaks loose in a challenge match? Will there be an investigation then too or will this be a one off as the media has grabbed hold of this story? Hard to see how all challenge matches could be policed and if not, Dublin would have every right to feel aggrieved if the suspensions that some are hinting at were to come to pass.

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 17/07/2015 12:56:44    1754838