I came across a funny wee page on Wikipedia ( i know its not 100% )

It uses a very similar method to rankings in rugby and has included every game since 3rd of May 1925. It seems more scientific than the ratings you get here or on gaa.ie . What do you all think? Any better ideas for current rankings?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football_rankings

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Donegal
4. Cork
5. Mayo
6. Monaghan
7. Derry
8. Armagh
9. Meath
10. Tyrone
11. Roscommon
12. Galway
13. Laois
14. Down
15. Kildare
16. Tipperary
17. Cavan
18. Fermanagh
19. Westmeath
20. Longford
21. Sligo
22. Clare
23. Wexford
24. Limerick
25. Offaly
26. Leitrim
27. Antrim
28. Louth
29. Wicklow
30. London
31. Carlow
32. Waterford
33. New York
34.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 10/06/2015 15:34:35    1735234

It's total rubbish - proven by the fact that Cavan who have 5 All-Ireland's and a million Ulsters are one place ahead of Fermanagh who have won neither.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 10/06/2015 15:42:33    1735238

Laughable.

SeppBlatter (Dublin) - Posts: 187 - 10/06/2015 15:46:41    1735242

Fair point put if you read the article its not about winning the most cups. If it was based in that ireland wouldnt be third in the rankings for rugby. Its a different style of a rating system. I cant think of a more fair way to call it but instead of calling it rubbish how about say how they can improve it?

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 10/06/2015 15:48:51    1735244

I came across a funny wee page on Wikipedia ( i know its not 100% )
Any better ideas for current rankings?

The post isnt about if this is the be all and end all. The question was is there a better route?

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 10/06/2015 15:50:15    1735245

seems accurate to me :)

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 10/06/2015 15:50:59    1735247

In other sports' world rankings, the winning of the biggest prize is weighted heavily, not the case here which is very very silly.

SeppBlatter (Dublin) - Posts: 187 - 10/06/2015 15:52:51    1735249

How many teams on that list do people think would be beat by a team below them? Usually a good way of judging accuracy in a ratings system i guess

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 10/06/2015 15:55:35    1735252

Again Sepp fine point but the intention was to find out the best system not just blast one that's in place. Love the feedback all the same :)

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 10/06/2015 15:57:21    1735254

Would Kerry not be on top as they have the most all irelands?

BigBallerSize5 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 61 - 10/06/2015 16:04:38    1735258

No its not a table of who has won the most all Ireland. Take a sec to read the page. Its based on lots like home/away, the competition, how many points you lose/win by etc

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 10/06/2015 17:23:00    1735305

I think it's made by the same lad on boards.ie , laoisman I think his name is . It really is an excellent indication of where teams currently stand . There's a scientific formula for calculating points transfers . You get more points for beating a higher placed team , margin of victory , home or away etc . I think it's very accurate and the guy that done it put a huge amount of work into it . It's hard to argue with it .

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 10/06/2015 18:08:42    1735337

surely this is based on this season alone. looking at the wiki page there is another table that lists the length of time a county has spent at number 1. this is an interesting table and probably truely reflects the strengths of counties over the last 90 years.

Total combined duration at number 1

Team Duration (days) Most recent
Kerry 12002 31 December 2014
Dublin 3050 31 August 2014
Galway 2604 4 August 2002
Meath 2401 4 June 2000
Cork 2218 26 August 2012
Down 1645 5 march 1995
Mayo 1305 1 September 2013
Cavan 1168 19 July 1953
Offaly 952 31 July 1983
Roscommon 917 9 August 1953
Tyrone 796 7 March 2009
Donegal 643 21 September 2014
Derry 553 18 June 2000
Louth 406 20 July 1958
Armagh 343 1 August 2004
Kildare 139 11 April 1999
Laois 14 21 August 1938
Fermanagh 7 14 August 2004

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5522 - 10/06/2015 18:31:05    1735346

Yeah nice of them to start in 1925 when we had already won 7 of our 9 Ulster titles. As such I say a load of aul ballicks.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 10/06/2015 19:42:39    1735366

Does a county get the same amount of points for winning a game in division 4 as winning one in division 1? So for example you were a steady division 2/3 team you may end up better off that a team who get promoted to division 1 but then get relegated back down? There is no division in world rugby?

sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 10/06/2015 20:03:18    1735375

Offside if you read the page there is a reason why the started in 1925.........but I still think antrims place is a decent reflection

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 10/06/2015 20:18:21    1735380

Sports fan there are divisions in world rugby. The European 2nd tier is below the IRB. The likes of holland and Spain are in it. And yes it's equal points for each division. It means a team gets a chance of winning points against an equally based team but still have to prove themselfs in the champ where points are worth 3 times

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 10/06/2015 20:21:59    1735382

And the reason dublin are above Kerry..........Although Croke Park is not the official home venue of the Dublin County Board, it is treated as such, as 88% of all home games played by Dublin between 1925 and 2014 have been played at this venue (99% of championship fixtures and 81% of league fixtures).

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 10/06/2015 20:31:10    1735384

We are at least 3 spots too high

MartinGerard (Longford) - Posts: 275 - 10/06/2015 20:50:44    1735391

The only football ranking that matters is known at the end of September.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 10/06/2015 21:03:01    1735397