The Derry - Down game today was very poor indeed, but it has to be said the standard of analysis from RTE is equally as poor. Tuned it over ton the BBC at half time and OisiN McConville opinions on the game and in particular the referee was way ahead off anything from the same old cliches from Spillane and O'Rourke. Their analysis is the same ols s**t all the time.

No.15 (Down) - Posts: 193 - 07/06/2015 19:24:03    1733712

Cavan-slasher, these are politically correct times.
It doesnt matter how good or bad she was.
Youre supposed to say that Brenda o Donoghue put the men to shame.
Get with it man.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 07/06/2015 19:29:35    1733717

Pat Spillane was asked ' why did Down improve ? ' Spillane , couldn't think why so he replied ' they worked harder ' . I was watching the match with a ten year old who offered more analysis than that . What about the positional changes etc. Seriously , himself and Colm are simply not able to discuss matches !

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 07/06/2015 19:49:56    1733734

Theres one thing analysing the game after the event but these yahoos actually call it before a balls thrown in!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 07/06/2015 20:00:04    1733744

I didn't think parts of the game were that poor at all. Better than a lot of games this year. Gaelic football as a spectacle has been getting progressively poorer. But the panelists are in a rut - every comment is negative and lazy.

Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1142 - 07/06/2015 20:55:53    1733794

These guys aren't there to say whether they were entertained or not etc, they should be providing in depth analyses and promoting rather than bashing the game. Oisin McConville ten times the pundit over on bbc2.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 07/06/2015 21:51:49    1733825

What the hell do people want? Them guys to say that was a great game of football, cop yourselves on, it was tripe they said it was tripe
Why do people want them to lie and big up a game into something it wasn't

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/06/2015 08:49:02    1733838

The pundits have got caught up in the mob rule on the state of Gaelic Football. If they had the same viewpoint 20 years ago they would be saying the same stuff. There was as many bad games back then.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 08/06/2015 09:15:07    1733848

No RD, people want them to discuss the actual game, things that happened on the pitch, tactical changes and switches etc. Not just vague sweeping statements about how good or bad the game was

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1428 - 08/06/2015 09:16:10    1733850

I 100% agree that Spillane should say if he didn't enjoy the game, it's his absolute right, but I just don't understand why he said that was 72 minutes he couldn't get back and didn't say the same about the match the week before, why was that tripe not 77 minutes he'll never get back? He has a serious issue with Ulster football and sticks the boot in at every opportunity

turkeyplucker (UK) - Posts: 137 - 08/06/2015 09:27:54    1733859

anthony daly and donal og are diff class on the sunday game.def the best thats out there at the moment..

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 08/06/2015 09:28:33    1733860

Whoever covered the highlights reel for Westmeath vs Wexford didn't bother to say who was playing in what away strip. He also seemed completely disinterested by it, like he had drawn the short straw in the office on Friday.

The other thing about Donal Og and Daly is they are good craic so even if their punditry was poor you would still enjoy listening to them, thankfully their analysis is very good.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 08/06/2015 09:42:34    1733869

Tir Conaill Abu
County: Donegal
Posts: 1115

1733848
The pundits have got caught up in the mob rule on the state of Gaelic Football. If they had the same viewpoint 20 years ago they would be saying the same stuff. There was as many bad games back then.

If you actually listened to Spillane yesterday he actually made that very point about there being plenty of bad games in his day, a sh**e game of football is a sh**e gave of football and the quality of football yesterday was sh**e, it was intense, exciting and tactically intriguing, as was pointed out by the analysts, but the football quality was poor. It's very hard to offer different analysis on games when the tactics employed in most games these days are exactly the same, when you are watching the same type of football the same type of dross every week I would think it difficult not to become repetitive and negative, exactly like the football they are trying to analyse.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3748 - 08/06/2015 09:51:35    1733875

benjyyy
County: Donegal
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1733850 No RD, people want them to discuss the actual game, things that happened on the pitch, tactical changes and switches etc. Not just vague sweeping statements about how good or bad the game was
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Correct benjyyy, and if its shite, then tell us WHY they think its shite rather than just calling it shite for the sake of it and because of some pre-conceived notions they have.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 08/06/2015 09:52:35    1733876

Tir Conaill Abu
County: Donegal
Posts: 1115

1733848
The pundits have got caught up in the mob rule on the state of Gaelic Football. If they had the same viewpoint 20 years ago they would be saying the same stuff. There was as many bad games back then.

If you actually listened to Spillane yesterday he actually made that very point about there being plenty of bad games in his day, a sh**e game of football is a sh**e gave of football and the quality of football yesterday was sh**e, it was intense, exciting and tactically intriguing, as was pointed out by the analysts, but the football quality was poor. It's very hard to offer different analysis on games when the tactics employed in most games these days are exactly the same, when you are watching the same type of football the same type of dross every week I would think it difficult not to become repetitive and negative, exactly like the football they are trying to analyse.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3748 - 08/06/2015 10:02:40    1733881

Richieq
I'd agree with you about yesterdays game, I also thought it was a very poor game and the shooting in itself was awful but O'Rourke and Spillane just watch a game and then pull out four or five of their usual 10 comments without any inventiveness in their analysis. Modern day football might look the same in every game but if you were involved in modern day management you would know that there is much more to it than throwing 15 men out to sit behind the ball but that is all these guys see.
People are switching off gaelic football because there is poor games and that is their right but have you ever watched premier league football? People still watch this in their droves, as do I, and there is way more poor games in a season than good ones but the analysts focus on the game in front of them and not THE STATE OF THE GAME in general. They analyse players roles, good attacks, GOOD DEFENDING, scores etc. and are often positive in their approach. Spillane often kicks off with "It's a good game, I've enjoyed it" followed by 5 minutes of negativity on what was witnessed.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 08/06/2015 10:56:59    1733928

Richieq
I'd agree with you about yesterdays game, I also thought it was a very poor game and the shooting in itself was awful but O'Rourke and Spillane just watch a game and then pull out four or five of their usual 10 comments without any inventiveness in their analysis. Modern day football might look the same in every game but if you were involved in modern day management you would know that there is much more to it than throwing 15 men out to sit behind the ball but that is all these guys see.
People are switching off gaelic football because there is poor games and that is their right but have you ever watched premier league football? People still watch this in their droves, as do I, and there is way more poor games in a season than good ones but the analysts focus on the game in front of them and not THE STATE OF THE GAME in general. They analyse players roles, good attacks, GOOD DEFENDING, scores etc. and are often positive in their approach. Spillane often kicks off with "It's a good game, I've enjoyed it" followed by 5 minutes of negativity on what was witnessed.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 08/06/2015 10:56:59    1733929

far too negative lads chatting on football, joy to listen to the hurling pundits they always see the good in it

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 08/06/2015 11:05:27    1733939

In General the standard is shocking. A lot of vague comments and it's obvious many of the pundits don't know the players or haven't done any research. The hurling guys are very good, but in football apart from ciaran Whelan and maybe Kevin mcstay, we're really struggling. Whelan is excellent. As for that farce of a radio show the Marty squad yesterday! ! It was like something for an American audience, leprechauns, shamrocks, etc. Brutal

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 817 - 08/06/2015 12:15:03    1733994

Malonemagic
County: Laois
Posts: 360

1733994 In General the standard is shocking. A lot of vague comments and it's obvious many of the pundits don't know the players or haven't done any research. The hurling guys are very good, but in football apart from ciaran Whelan and maybe Kevin mcstay, we're really struggling. Whelan is excellent. As for that farce of a radio show the Marty squad yesterday! ! It was like something for an American audience, leprechauns, shamrocks, etc. Brutal
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Even the title 'Marty squad' is cringeworthy.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 08/06/2015 12:30:45    1734004