what Joe Brolly is doing is subliminal marketing for Joe Brolly Inc !!
He is keeping himself in the headlines, in conversations and in controversial arguments.
All the time he is self promoting himself adding value to himself as a journalist and a panelist.
He can command a greater fee. He was on RTE and the Ulster GAA paper. Now he's in the Independent - step by step, more jobs more money.
Like the rest of the panelists, if they didnt cause any ripples the ratings would be down.

StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 12/05/2015 11:46:10    1722704

Great idea from Joe Brolly. Up to around 10 years ago this was how all kick-outs were contested. Let the midfielders contest for the ball rather than these short kick-outs!

ShortGrass_1 (Kildare) - Posts: 223 - 12/05/2015 12:04:22    1722715

It's kind of depressing to see that Jarlath Burns is saying he'll take Joe Bolly's idea's on board.Does this mean that the only people they'll listen to will be people with big meadia profiles or are the ordinary people in the assciation going to be given a say.

Nothing against Brolly's idea it might work but surely all opinions form all ranks of the association should be considered.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 12/05/2015 12:54:19    1722741

Won't work on its own, nice idea much like young wans dancing at the cross Roads but if you ban the short kick outs there is no need for forwards to cover their markers. It's not practical like how long do u allow a defender who went on the attack to get back into his own 45?

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 12/05/2015 13:06:25    1722749

It's not Joe Brolly's Idea, It was my Idea originally. Thon muppet was surfing HS for material, and stole my suggestion.

GaryMc82
County: Derry
Posts: 1778
06/04/2015 12:02:24

1711150
Eliminate the short kickout, and stipulate that all kickout's must pass your own 45 or else be retaken.

This would open games up, with Increased focus in winning the midfield.

I should be getting paid the big bucks down in RTE, But Instead we have the Cast of Father Ted.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 12/05/2015 13:27:16    1722768

Won't work and will just be used as a time waster at the end of games. The players from the team that are winning will just slowly leave the midfield zone prior to the kick out wasting time and frustrating the ref and the opposing team.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 12/05/2015 13:42:33    1722775

Tir Conaill Abu
County: Donegal
Posts: 1083

1722775 Won't work and will just be used as a time waster at the end of games. The players from the team that are winning will just slowly leave the midfield zone prior to the kick out wasting time and frustrating the ref and the opposing team.

It will achieve the objective of opening up the game a bit more, However that is not to say that teams won't continue to push the rules to the limits.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 12/05/2015 13:46:54    1722778

GaryMc82
County: Derry
Posts: 1786

1722768 It's not Joe Brolly's Idea, It was my Idea originally. He was surfing HS for material, and stole my suggestion.

Fair play GaryMc82, I have heard of worse ideas. I agree with other posters re shorter kickouts against the wind and the potential for time wasting, have you any ideas how to overcome these 2 problems?

facer4home (Cavan) - Posts: 163 - 12/05/2015 14:12:21    1722798

Tell the truth GaryMc82 you are Joe Brolly!!! Decent idea, cant see it working in underage games but the kicking Tee has helped. Maybe a time limit on kickouts and penalising the offending team re time wasting or failure to have players in positions with a free. Might actually give umpires something to do, especially if Hawk Eye is rolled out in more grounds.

This_Year (Derry) - Posts: 105 - 12/05/2015 15:45:17    1722849

Why does the kick out have to go past the 45. Surely ensuring each team has six players inside the 45, 2 between the 45s and 6 players past the 45 up the other end is enough. Give plenty of scope for different kickout strategies and still spread players around the pitch opening space.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1479 - 12/05/2015 16:20:18    1722860

I wouldn't get too caught up in the nitty gritty of players being positioned in certain area's.

Simple is king, Goalkeeper must kick it beyond the 45. Failure to do so, will result in a 45 for the opposition.
This would definitely eliminate the time wasting aspect, however the real problem would be for a keeper who continuously failed to kick it beyond the 45, which would see the likes of Michael Murphy kick 20 x 45's in a row.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 12/05/2015 18:03:59    1722921

Whats all this fuss about?
Tyrone started all this off, but Micky Harte was the master technician and sure as long as they were stopping Kerry that was fine.
Donegal then got in on the act. But Mc Guinness was the master psychologist and if he togged 15 seventy year old fellas he would have still won the All Ireland. What a man and hasn't he transformed Celtic into Champion league contenders?
Then Kerry did it in the All Ireland last year. Eamon Fitz what a man, he completely changed the way Kerry played in two weeks. If they had been beaten would we have same opinions.
Then poor Derry and Moneghan get in on the act and Joe does not like it much, all of a sudden u-14 teams are at it, Ladies teams are at it and any junior B team worth its salt will be at it this summer.
Hold the press, Joe has come up with a plan to "put an end to end to this sort of thing". But like the Black Card, nothing will happen until the boggers from Mayo ( sick of getting trashed by the Dubs) come up for their summer outing in the big smoke and they put 14 men behind their own 40 and dump the Dubs out of the championship. Poor Jim will cry into his coffee in some pub in Dublin. Joe will alert the nation to the massive injustice and the game will change forever.

westport (Mayo) - Posts: 63 - 12/05/2015 21:17:07    1722997

I don't think Brollys idea has much merit but I do feel changes are needed. Something simple like a team must have at least 4 players inside the opposition 45 at all times. Also to discourage fouling how about after a free kick at goal (whether it's scored or not) instead of a kickout the game is restarted with free pocession at midfield so the foul is doubly penalised.

catchturnscore (Longford) - Posts: 151 - 12/05/2015 21:17:10    1722998

catchturnscore
County: Longford
Posts: 14

1722998 I don't think Brollys idea has much merit but I do feel changes are needed. Something simple like a team must have at least 4 players inside the opposition 45 at all times. Also to discourage fouling how about after a free kick at goal (whether it's scored or not) instead of a kickout the game is restarted with free pocession at midfield so the foul is doubly penalised

It's my Idea, he seen in here on HS and robbed it.

Essentially the big sides can control the short to medium range kickout's so well, that they can then dominate possession. Kickout strategy plays a huge role in the success of the top 5 or 6 teams in the Country, and we have seen this Impacted when decent opposition push up man to man for kickout's.

When you consider a excellent attacking team like Dublin can convert every possession into a score, and can rack up massive scores when they get to dominate the kickouts, we see edge it gives the top attacking sides. Likewise a team like Donegal who can really dominate possession against any team, will completely control the tempo of a game from a variety of kickouts.

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GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 12/05/2015 21:59:43    1723021

Much and all as I admire you Gary, I have to say I am not in favour of making kick outs go to the 45 from the 14.

For starters there is a world of difference, distance wise, in a kick out going straight down the middle & one that goes to the wings. Unless we put in a "D" shaped line all we will get are kick outs hoofed down the middle, which I feel would be a regression.

While I don't like the very short kick outs, I do like the variety employed by the likes of Cluxton & Durkan. To see a keeper spot a player running into space & finding him is one of the new features of the game that I really like & would not like to lose it.

As a compromise could we take all kick outs from the 21 & make them travel to the 50. That will allow for the placed kick out as described above but would also put a really well hit ball up the centre a good 40 yds farther on. This would relieve congestion in the middle & free things up a bit.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 13/05/2015 09:51:11    1723043

Complete waste of time. Here's the only 5 rules needed to save Gaelic football

http://catmalojin.com/2015/04/05/cat-malojin-solve-the-problems-with-gaelic-football/

CatMalojin (USA) - Posts: 32 - 13/05/2015 11:06:52    1723072