Brogan
McGuigan
Masters
Mortimer
Dolan

mid-mon man (Monaghan) - Posts: 1680 - 27/08/2008 14:26:42    86406

1.Brogan wins hands down.(think he is in one of the top forwards in GAA) 8/10

2.Dessie Dolan talented footballer much more dangerous than what most people on this forum think. He more or less ended Brendan Guiney hopes of ever forging a career with Kerry by roasting him. 7/10

3. James Masters has not delivered on his potential. A few times he looks like a world beater but when it comes to the serious business he won't deliver the goods. in Kerry we had Declan Quill more or less a same tye of player as JM and he retired now as he couldn't get a game.Cork have improved since he is only coming on as a sub instead of being used as main attacker 5 1/2 - 6 /10

4. Tommy Mcguigan has looked promising at times but has not really proven himself yet 5 /10

5. Conor Mortimer - he would be a great CLUB footballer. he has been meat and drink for Kerry corner backs down the years.
He again looked promising coming out of underage but years later still has not developed. takes pot shots and incorrect options
a lot of the time.From a Mayo perspective is that they still look at him as their main focus of attack,they won't win their way out of a paper bag unless they change strategy 4/10

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 27/08/2008 14:31:48    86422

A tipperary man giving us a lecture on "football knowledge"....what next !!!

hoopdreams (Meath) - Posts: 16 - 27/08/2008 14:32:51    86424

Can't understand why so many people are giving such praise to Masters. He's probably the best man in the country to kick the ball over the bar....as long as there is no one else on the field. Too slow and easily marked, if he is so good why didn't he start against kerry.

Brogan on the other hand is a class act. Made last years semi-final a real match almost single handedly. If the dubs had a couple of decent forwards with him the dubs would be serious contenders.

Keane16 (Kerry) - Posts: 306 - 27/08/2008 14:38:05    86436

Daytona i dont think you can discount dolan based on one year's championship. He has been carrying westmeath on his own for the past 6/7 yrs. And Westmeath are useless when push comes to shove.
I reckon Mortimer is very talented but not quite in the top tier with the gooch, mcdonnel, clarke, forde. Doesnt win enough hard possession.
Masters is a conundrum because he was an outstanding minor but then strugged to get into his own club team for a few years (i know its Nemo but we are talking about an all-ireland winning captain).
Tommy McGuigan is class from what i have seen but he marked Keith Higgins against Mayo and Higgins is the best corner back in the country in my opinion

HairyZanetti (Mayo) - Posts: 27 - 27/08/2008 14:43:43    86446

ok hairy zanetti maybe so.but i still dont think he's within the top ten forwards in the country.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 27/08/2008 14:52:52    86456

hoopdreams
County: Meath
Posts: 5

86424 A tipperary man giving us a lecture on "football knowledge"....what next !!! ]

Says the man who has the strangest list of anyone! Next it'll be a Meath man saying something sensible and then pigs will fly!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/08/2008 15:18:25    86504

Keane16
County: Kerry
Posts: 38

86436 Can't understand why so many people are giving such praise to Masters. He's probably the best man in the country to kick the ball over the bar....as long as there is no one else on the field. Too slow and easily marked, if he is so good why didn't he start against kerry.

They obviously didnt think it was worth risking injury to their best player playing against mulluckers!!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/08/2008 15:20:16    86509

Dessie Dolan-8, Conor Mortimer-7, Alan Brogan-8, Tommy McGuigan-7, James Masters-7
out of 10

coO (Cavan) - Posts: 217 - 27/08/2008 15:54:59    86584

What do you mean mullockers tiobraid? Surely a man who is apparently one of the best forwards in the country is worth risking against the best team to get to an AI final. Especially if they are willing to bring him on when the chips are down. he has never done anythi9ng playing against good defences.

Keane16 (Kerry) - Posts: 306 - 27/08/2008 15:56:01    86587

I agree Masters does sometimes look poor against good defences, but the fella has scored 5-73 in the last 3 championships, not bad going even if all frees!!!!

macattack (UK) - Posts: 584 - 27/08/2008 16:12:12    86644

Keane16
County: Kerry
Posts: 43

Did masters not get the goal that rescued the game the last day and the goal that ensures they will be in the final! And he also was the reason they won the Munster final. Oh ya sorry Kerry don't have a defence anymore...excuse my ignorance!!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/08/2008 16:16:47    86663

How good are these boys and how would you rate them in order
Dessie Dolan, Conor Mortimer, Alan Brogan, Tommy McGuigan, James Masters

1Brogan....by some distance
2McGuigan
3Masters
4Dolan
5Mortimer

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 27/08/2008 16:40:48    86705

Yeah but Daytona this thread isnt about who are the best forwards in the country. This is about the ratings of 5 corner forwards.
If we are on about forwards then you are including the likes of Declan O'Sullivan, Donaghy, Brosnan, Galvin, Clarke, Dooher, Brian McGuigan etc none of whom are corner forwards.
Dessie Dolan is within the top 10 corner forwards in the country without question

HairyZanetti (Mayo) - Posts: 27 - 27/08/2008 16:42:00    86708

Kerry don't have a defence anymoreAlright tiobraid, your ignorance is excused.

Keane16 (Kerry) - Posts: 306 - 28/08/2008 11:50:34    87258

Brogan,Mcguigan,Mortimer,Dolan,Masters

maigh_eo (Mayo) - Posts: 1346 - 29/08/2008 19:54:05    88779

Brogan only one who could have a chance with Kerry. Enough said.

dingle1 (Clare) - Posts: 805 - 29/08/2008 22:12:39    88823

Meh they're all pretty good.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 30/08/2008 12:05:44    88919

Dingle1, I agree with you there but jeez yere boys were not so hot in front of the posts last week, I imagine that will be put right tomorrow...

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 30/08/2008 17:08:11    88984

Brogan is pretty good - very good from play - best of the lot
Dolan is useful but injuires have taken their toll now, on his day very accurate from play.
Masters is just ok. Great free taker though, excellent free taking talent
Mortimer - Only an average club player. Only for the appearance you'd never notice him. Take the free's away from Mortimer (the ones he manages not to miss) you'd be lucky to get a point a game from him against quality opposition (i.e. NOT Sligo, Leitrim, NY etc.)

FarneyBoy (Monaghan) - Posts: 151 - 30/08/2008 22:04:15    89056