people have to be negative about something breff...i watched the game on sky but i heard that one of the commentators referred to the game on rte as 'almost as good as a game of hurling' or something of that nature..who says that?

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 25/08/2014 13:03:46    1641653

RE Tony Green,
We all bring in revenue to the GAA not just Dubs and forget obout the 82 thousand for a replay
think about fairness to all, not grab all as it seems to be. Not once in my post did say it
should not be played in Limerick just saying if the shoe had of been on the other foot the
money men would have won the day regardless.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 25/08/2014 13:07:52    1641656

MesAmi - I don't think that the GAA needs that much money to promote gaelic games. They are two of the very best games in the world.

I am not opposed to Croke Park being used to host concerts or other events. For me the problem is when other events dictate when GAA players can use Croke Park.

A lot of people are suggesting that all the money generated goes into the grassroots. I know a lot of it is distributed to county boards but I'm not sure it trickles down all the way to the clubs. In my own area, 2 of the local clubs are under pressure to keep the show on the road. Most of income that these clubs generate is given to the county board to fund a development centre. (i.e. a field with a load of pitches that clubs actually have to pay a fee to use!)

The particular issue of moving the semi final to Limerick isn't the end of the world but for me it indicates an increasing change of emphasis from the suits in Croke Park - profit before people.

Cherno_Samba (Louth) - Posts: 632 - 25/08/2014 13:09:56    1641658

Some people just like a good aul moan Breff, which is something that is not uniquely Irish of course, although those who love moan also love to use the phrase 'only in wherever (insert name) could this happen', which in fairness is utter tripe.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 25/08/2014 13:11:00    1641660

It is a good question to ask - if the Dublin Donegal game had been yesterday and had ended in a draw, does anyone think there's even the slightest chance the replay would be held anywhere other than Croke Park?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5251 - 25/08/2014 13:18:49    1641666

The amount of whinging on HS & boards in general is out of all proportion to the issues involved.

What is it about us that results in small things like the venue for a game, the number of days between games, Sky, styles of play being blown up out of all proportion by some people.

We have to realise that in a lot of cases there isn't a perfect soloution to situations that arise & that compromises have to be reached.
This does not mean that the GAA has
1 Lost it's soul
2 Sold out to the money man
3 No regard for players/supporters/oul fellas
4 Become the Grab All Association

The same applies to over the top criticism about RTE/Sunday Game/Joe Brolly/Referees/Donegal who were recently accused of "raping" the game.

Now, all these subjects are worthy of discussion & debate. I wouldn't have it any other way. But for God's sake can we keep it in perspective & reign back a bit on the florid prose & apocalyptic language.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 25/08/2014 13:31:15    1641679

Mulligan Eamon - we all bring in revenue, but Dublin brings in far more than any other county. That's simply a fact.

The GAA has to make contingency plans for possible outcomes and it has done that. If the Kerry Mayo-replay had been fixed for Croke Ppark on Saturday September 6th, and then the Dublin-Donegal match had gone to a replay, it isn't a case of being easily able to then switch the Kerry-Mayo match to Limerick, given that thousands of tickets would have already been sold.

If a Dublin-Donegal replay was fixed for Saturday September 13th, that gives the winner just 8 days to prepare for the final, and 8 days for a county board to sort out tickets and logistics.

The GAA had a contingency plan to deal with this situation, and it's been put into operation quite effectively.

TonyGreen (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 25/08/2014 13:47:51    1641694

Is it bash the GAA time!!!

I can remember many occasions where there were games involving Cork/Kerry etc, and commentators ( not the Counties) were saying we should bring it to Thurles/Limerick etc....
there are those who would have argued that if it was fixed for Croker - we shouldn't have been dragging the fans back up to Dublin again!!!

Personally i think its great to have a major game ( especially football) outside the capital.
If Sunsday's game had have ended in a dour 0-8 a piece we wouldn't be taking so much about the replay.... it was a great second half...

As for the American football - there is a strong possibility that this can and could be a permanent fixture... which will generate the millions which is needed to build the white elephant in Cork...

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 25/08/2014 14:02:59    1641713

Cherno_Samba
County: Louth
Posts: 465

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MesAmi - I don't think that the GAA needs that much money to promote gaelic games. They are two of the very best games in the world.

Money is needed. More money for the GAA is almost always a good thing.

Look at all the facilities up and down the country, they didn't come from nowhere. A combination of grassroots volunteers work and money from big matches, Tv deals, advertising, and other commercial avenues is what keeps the GAA alive and the number one sports association in the country.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13802 - 25/08/2014 14:09:59    1641718

I love the NFL, not really a college football fan, but I think all their games take place on a Saturday, so couldn't this game have been set for a Friday night, and that way the possibility for a clash wouldn't be there, and with no other game on, there would be a massive audience watching in the states. The other option was to wait until October, at which point Croker will be empty every weekend, and with nothing else on, an even bigger crowd would have attended the game.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1661 - 25/08/2014 14:13:44    1641720

TonyGreen
County: Dublin
Posts: 16

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Mulligan Eamon - we all bring in revenue, but Dublin brings in far more than any other county. That's simply a fact.

Can't disagree with you there Tony, but by the same measure you would also have to admit that as a county Dublin benefits more from the GAA as well, not only in grants but from the many people who travel to the capital each year to support their county.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 25/08/2014 15:05:05    1641763

I think people here are forgetting this is a saturday game. As regards to attendance I think that if this game was in croker it wouldn't get anymore than 45k because people work on saturdays and it would be hard to get off at such short notice. Then you have the cost of tickets and transport again that some people might not be able to afford it and finally I fon't think the venue will bother the players too much as they will be happy to still be in a semi final. Semple would have been ideal for the game but the atmosphere in Limerick will be great and I am looking forward to it already.

Jackos_Wacko (Kerry) - Posts: 417 - 25/08/2014 15:17:48    1641775

I think people here are forgetting this is a saturday game. As regards to attendance I think that if this game was in croker it wouldn't get anymore than 45k because people work on saturdays and it would be hard to get off at such short notice. Then you have the cost of tickets and transport again that some people might not be able to afford it and finally I fon't think the venue will bother the players too much as they will be happy to still be in a semi final. Semple would have been ideal for the game but the atmosphere in Limerick will be great and I am looking forward to it already.

Jackos_Wacko (Kerry) - Posts: 417 - 25/08/2014 15:18:11    1641777

Spot on Jackos. Some at last Sundays attendance was children with their parents. The late kick off might prevent some parentS going, I ev3n think that some National schools opening, inexplicably, next Thursday and Friday might have some parents back in the stay-in most Saturday nights cos the kids are back in school mode?

How many Kerry and Mayo people are actually unhappy about Limerick as the venue? Don't see too many of them posting here, mostly neutrals voicing their anger at the GAA over with little justification.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8001 - 25/08/2014 20:36:35    1642007