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GAA losing its soul?

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The Gaelic Grounds has a capacity of 48,000. Going on the basis that Saturday replays cut the attendance by 10-15%, it should be able to accommodate everyone going to the replay. Tarbert is 45 miles from Limerick and 165 miles from Dublin, Claremorris is 100 miles from Limerick (half of it motorway) and 130 miles from Dublin so it's easier for both sets of supporters and especially those who were left high and dry by yesterday's rail strike.

Also, anyone driving to the game will be spared the clamping vultures that Dublin Corporation inflict on any culchie they suspect of enjoying himself on a day out to their money-gouging city.

So why are we entertaining a load of rubbish manufactured by self-important blowholes on the Sunday Game who are so out of touch with Gaelic games that they're completely unaware of what exists outside their corporate box in Croke Park?

Prof Honeydew (Limerick) - Posts: 1110 - 25/08/2014 10:07:42    1641507

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Talk about utter rubbish. In the past the GAA has been accused of telling referees to play for a draw so as to rip off the supporters in a reply, now they are accused of losing their soul when they move the game closer to both counties and saving the fans the guts of 50 Euro each, while at the same time making money from people who will attend a non GAA event - a lot of them won't be Irish either. So boys decide what you want, do you want to organisation to make money that is all returned to the grassroots or do you want the association to die on its knees.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1975 - 25/08/2014 10:15:06    1641512

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In 2012, Notre Dame played Navy in Aviva Stadium. Maybe CP wanted a piece of the pie.

mikeyjoe (USA) - Posts: 415 - 25/08/2014 10:41:06    1641531

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Prof Honeydew
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The Gaelic Grounds has a capacity of 48,000. Going on the basis that Saturday replays cut the attendance by 10-15%, it should be able to accommodate everyone going to the replay. Tarbert is 45 miles from Limerick and 165 miles from Dublin, Claremorris is 100 miles from Limerick (half of it motorway) and 130 miles from Dublin so it's easier for both sets of supporters and especially those who were left high and dry by yesterday's rail strike.

Also, anyone driving to the game will be spared the clamping vultures that Dublin Corporation inflict on any culchie they suspect of enjoying himself on a day out to their money-gouging city.

So why are we entertaining a load of rubbish manufactured by self-important blowholes on the Sunday Game who are so out of touch with Gaelic games that they're completely unaware of what exists outside their corporate box in Croke Park?


With respect, Prof. Honeydew, you're being a bit selective here. Claremorris is one of the most southerly parts of Co. Mayo, and is very well connected due to the WRC. If you're from parts of North Mayo, such as Belmullet, Ballycroy etc. it can take two and a half hours just to get to the county border with Galway! Then add in the rest of the journey and you're talking four hours plus.

Croke Park is the best pitch in the country, and is befitting of such a game in a way that most provincial stadia aren't. It also has the advantage of being a very similar journey for both supporters. It's a shame that the powers that be value a few quid over the very people that make the Association what it is, i.e. the players.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 25/08/2014 10:47:36    1641537

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Belmullet to Limerick is a shorter distance than Belmullet to Dublin whatever way you look at it.

TonyGreen (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 25/08/2014 11:08:09    1641552

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Time for the GAA to decide if its mission is to generate money or promote gaelic games.


How will they promote Gaelic games with no money?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13802 - 25/08/2014 11:21:46    1641564

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Just say if yesterday's match had have been a Dublin/Donegal
draw would the replay have been put back until the following
Saturday or played this Saturday in either Clones or Belfast.
Think I know the answer to that one and so does the money men
in CP.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 25/08/2014 11:25:02    1641567

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Folks, at the All Ireland hurling semi final, I saw a Limerick couple with a five week old child in a sling in his mother's arms be told that for Health and Safety reasons they could not bring the child into the Premium without a ticket, but that they could buy a Davin ticket from the rather obnoxious man in a suit, for the newborn. Then we witnessed a demented hawk fly through the Cusack stand apparently oblivious to Health and Safety considerations, listening to blaring music. This week-end we witness an appalling decision in relation to the replay, displaying complete indifference to the heritage of All Ireland semi finals and the supporters of Mayo in particular. The Westmeath poster is correct. These decisions are being made by one or two with no interest or background in the GAA, and they are damaging the soul of the organisation that thousands of us love so much.

LaLu (Louth) - Posts: 238 - 25/08/2014 11:35:00    1641571

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The GAA's mission is to promote Gaelic Games and it would be failing in its duty to do that by not maximising revenue from Croke Park.

That means hosting concerts and other events. Outdoor concerts will always be between May and September in Ireland so that's the only time Croke Park can host them. So be it. Disruption from concerts has always been kept to a minimum.over the years.

The Kerry-Mayo replay, if held in Croke Park on a Saturday, would not attract more than 45,000 - yesterday got 52,000 and replays not involving Dublin almost always draw less than the drawn match, particularly when held on Saturdays and particularly when both counties are a long way from Dublin.

Limerick will comfortably hold the crowd, is an excellent venue and it's nearer to both Kerry and Mayo so it's less expense as far as petrol money is concerned for both sets of supporters.It's a sensible choice as venue.

The GAA must plan for the event of a Dublin-Donegal replay. 82,000 people will attend this match and a replay would draw the same crowd. There is no other venue that can hold it and that's self-evident.

People moaning about this have no grasp whatsoever of anything to do with organisation or logistics.It's classic sub-Liveline standard whinging about nothing.

TonyGreen (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 25/08/2014 11:35:47    1641573

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Belmullet and Erris Region to Limerick is 4 and a half hours, same area to Dublin is around the same time but a dual carriageway and motorway for 1 hour and a half of that journey, nothing like that in the Limerick direction for a major game. Last night took 6 hours to get home from Dublin, traffic was awful in Dublin 2 hours to get to the tollbridge and will be the same in limerick next week.

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 25/08/2014 11:57:32    1641587

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There's a motorway from Gort to Limerick, which is about the same distance as Kinnegad (where the motorway stats coming from Mayo via the N5) to Dublin. So yes there is "something like that" going to Limerick.

TonyGreen (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 25/08/2014 12:08:44    1641591

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I played for and supported my local club all my life,and always will, but if I hadn't the tickets already bought I wouldn't be going to the semi final next Sunday,and it will be my last trip to Croke park,even in the unlikely event we manage to beat Dublin and make the final I won't be travelling to Croker again.Of course getting a ticket for the final is all but impossible anyway as the GAA big wigs give the best seats to their corporate buddies and other big wigs and prawn sandwich brigade,I suppose Hogan stand won't even post this msg,Pearse and Connoly would have been as well stay in their beds,this country is a disgrace,Eamon Dunphy famously called it a kip and he wasn't far wrong.
The GAA hierarchy are a disgrace,how could they not have a replay date free in case the AI semi final ended in a draw? as Martin Mc Hugh said they wouldn't be asking Dublin to leave their 'home' venue for a replay.But leaving that aside it's an absolute disgrace,between concerts and American football and selling out the ordinary GAA people to British sky I have had it with the GAA at national level,the game has become almost professional anyway,players and managers are being 'looked' after and everyone knows it.
The game won't be available on RTE,shame on you whovever is behind this absolute slur on the best amature sporting association in the world,
Where does all the money go anyway? the local clubs are barely surviving.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 25/08/2014 12:15:49    1641600

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Imagine Dublin and Donegal played yesterday and it was a draw? Where would the game be played?

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 25/08/2014 12:22:00    1641608

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People are missing the point , if the match was moved to Limerick under circumstances such as promoting GAA in other areas then fair enough. They have not done this , playing a American football game in August at HQ is a total shambles , forget about how far people have to travel (obviously a serious issue ) for now , there would definitely not be another sport would permit this !

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 25/08/2014 12:25:04    1641613

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People moaning about this have no grasp whatsoever of anything to do with organisation or logistics.It's classic sub-Liveline standard whinging about nothing.

Go on then know it all explain or do you just think Dublin should play at home all the time just because they have a lot of sunshine supporters come championship time. In England Manchester United get on average 75/77 thousand supporters every home game but that does
not entitle them to get that amount of tickets come cup final day or played at OT either.
I know there is a lot that goes into organising games but just remember the GAA belongs to US all not just a few.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 25/08/2014 12:25:29    1641615

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TirChonaillabu2

Think you need to relax lad, you're getting far too upset about the current set up of the Gaa and surely you won't deny yourself a few great days out in Croker because of some misguided stand.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 25/08/2014 12:32:21    1641625

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Mmulligan Eamon:

I'd love to see Dublin play soe Leinster Championship matches outside of Croke Park, as I think the promotional benefits for the game and a bit of variety would outweigh the slight loss in revenue.

Are you seriously suggesting that a Dublin-Donegal All-Ireland semi-final (and replay) should be anywhere else than Croke Park? Do bear in mind that this is an 82,000 sell-out and any potential replay would be too.

On the one hand you're complaining about Kerry and Mayo being taken out of Croke Park to a ground more convenient to both sets of supporters, that will comfortably be able to accommodate the attendance, while on the other hand saying that a match that will attract 82,000 at Croke Park should be taken out of it. That's some very strange logic.

Dublin supporters bring in millions for the GAA as a whole in terms of revenue. If the rest of Ireland doesn't want that, that's their problem.

To the poster who said the replay isn't live on RTE - eh, it is, obviously.

TonyGreen (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 25/08/2014 12:44:42    1641636

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My reaction to the news that the replay would be in Limerick was "Cool, that'll be interesting to see" I don't understand the negativity around this decision. Mayo and Kerry have just played out an epic, exciting draw and the replay will take place in a packed Gaelic grounds and people's default reaction is to find a negative, something to whinge about all week. Why are people so keen to not enjoy GAA?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12359 - 25/08/2014 12:50:42    1641640

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Next week it will be something completely different for the "Gaa selling it's soul" brigade

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12359 - 25/08/2014 12:53:58    1641643

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Classic line from Joe Brolly yesterday in response to Michael
Lysters answer that someone needs to pay for Croke Park,"this
place was paid for ten years ago". Fair play!!

If that is the case it has been ten years of massive profits
for the GAA. The fact that they don't care about the true fans
is shown by the unseemly scramble for All Ireland tickets and people
who don't go regularly to games getting them before those
that do. Ive no problem with these people getting tickets
but it should be the leftovers after those that have
attended all year get theirs. Yet the GAA doesn't care about
this.I know you could say get a season ticket but for those
that don't have them is it fair that those that go to every
match cant get a ticket while those that go to none have
an equal chance??

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1702 - 25/08/2014 12:58:56    1641647

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