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Yes. The GAA is losing it's soul. Scheduling circus games right at the business end of the championship. Absolutely ridiculous.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8817 - 24/08/2014 19:29:58    1641339

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My comment was in general reference to the apparent attitude of the decision makers at high level within the GAA. By no means is hosting a game in Limerick the worst they've done to show their greed and lack of consideration for players/supporters/coaches, etc.


You've lost the plot. Their decision will mean a very unique match with an atmosphere better than croke park could ever have for this fixture.

This will actually save mayo supporters about an hour travelling on the round trip and it will save kerry fans a massive 4 hours 40 minutes driving. So you might as well drop the whole think of the fans argument.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 24/08/2014 19:30:52    1641340

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I have no problem with Croke Park being otherwise engaged on Saturday. But why Limerick? Kerrys next door neighbour. Tullamore or Port Laoise would be equally handy for both teams.


How can you complain about this when Dublin play all their matches in Dublin? And to compare like with like, it's the same as Mayo v Meath being played in Croker. Sure Dublin is right next to Meath!! Maybe that's why we hammered you in the 2009 quarter final!!

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 24/08/2014 19:33:44    1641343

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I have no problem with Croke Park being otherwise engaged on Saturday. But why Limerick? Kerrys next door neighbour. Tullamore or Port Laoise would be equally handy for both teams.


A completely daft suggestion.

There were 52k at the match today. Tullamore and Portlaoise hold around 20k.Limerick holds close to 50k.

Limerick and Thurles are the only suitable venues for this fixture apart from Croke Park

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 24/08/2014 19:47:37    1641355

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So the GAA are money grabbers for fixing an American Football game at Croke Park, but not for yet again expecting supporters to attend another replay? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 24/08/2014 20:01:22    1641364

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The GAA are lucky that it is Kerry and Mayo playing because it would have been very awkward for them if in hindsight a Northern team were playing Kerry. Its true that only Thurles and Limerick are capable of hosting All Ireland Semi - finals which lets be honest is not a million miles from Mayo. It will make for a great occasion. However the reality is the top brass of the GAA have been caught out. They squeezed a money making event into the busiest time of the championship calender and I am sure there were red faces at today's final whistle. However every cloud..... this should maybe start a debate about the use of different stadia for quarter - finals, semi-final replays and the old chestnut of Dublin having to play in Croke Park for every game. Cork and Belfast are due to build great stadiums add in thurles and Limerick and maybe we start going on the road more in the future.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 24/08/2014 20:04:07    1641368

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Money making is the bottom line for the GAA which is fair enough none of us that naive but the timing of the American football match next weekend leaves a sour taste in the mouth as does a lot of other decisions taken by Croke Park in recent years.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1890 - 24/08/2014 20:10:21    1641374

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My comment was in general reference to the apparent attitude of the decision makers at high level within the GAA. By no means is hosting a game in Limerick the worst they've done to show their greed and lack of consideration for players/supporters/coaches, etc.

You've lost the plot. Their decision will mean a very unique match with an atmosphere better than croke park could ever have for this fixture.

This will actually save mayo supporters about an hour travelling on the round trip and it will save kerry fans a massive 4 hours 40 minutes driving. So you might as well drop the whole think of the fans argument.



Read my post again.

I answered the opening thread post based on the GAA as a whole, not on this replay!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5251 - 24/08/2014 20:16:37    1641377

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How can you complain about this when Dublin play all their matches in Dublin? And to compare like with like, it's the same as Mayo v Meath being played in Croker. Sure Dublin is right next to
Meath!! Maybe that's why we hammered you in the 2009 quarter final.
Good god Jack where did that come from. You "hammered" Mayo in 2009 because we were inept. Nothing to do with Croker. All teams like to play there. But scheduleIing a Mayo v Kerry match in Limerick is far more advantageous for Kerry supporters.
I agree with the poster who said this whinging about an American Football match is ridiculous. This match was organised months ago and Croke Park would have been vacant were it not for the draw.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 24/08/2014 20:23:13    1641381

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The GAA hierarchy have lost the run of itself. It's focus is merely a profitable organisation, nothing to do with promoting our Gaelic games.
I wonder how much of a price ticket reduction they will allow for this replay?
We are slowly but surely losing our amateur status and 1844 is a long distant memory to the new kids on the block that are running our association.
Shame on them!

Tyrone0305 (Tyrone) - Posts: 46 - 24/08/2014 20:28:32    1641385

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Yes Sam 1884, great stadia to be built in the future for the sake of the Rugby World Cup 2023. Not that it bothers me cos hurling is my game. But if we had a few more gaelic football games like the 2nd half today, I might begin to take a greater interest.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2020 - 24/08/2014 20:37:48    1641393

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24/08/2014 20:28:32
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The GAA hierarchy have lost the run of itself. It's focus is merely a profitable organisation, nothing to do with promoting our Gaelic games.
I wonder how much of a price ticket reduction they will allow for this replay?
We are slowly but surely losing our amateur status and 1844 is a long distant memory to the new kids on the block that are running our association.
Shame on them!
Wow! What a hysterical over reaction!
GAA's primary focus will never be making a profit but profits are key so your club, Tyrone0305, and every club in the organisation.
You will see a price reduction for the replay but this and everything else is not leading the GAA towards losing its amateur status.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 24/08/2014 20:38:25    1641394

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Fair play to Joe Brolly he called it right again. The GAA
are always prioritising money making over the community
based aspect of the association. Its a bit sad really that
an American football game takes precendence over an All
Ireland semi final??

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1702 - 24/08/2014 20:44:03    1641398

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I suspect that if Jack Goff was abducted by aliens he would blame it on Dublin :-)


Logistically the replay works out well enough in terms of travel but less people will get to see the replay that were there today. Obviously CP booked this American thing on a wing and a prayer that there would be no replay. That is cavalier attitude to All Ireland semi final no matter what way you look at it.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 24/08/2014 20:45:54    1641401

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firstly today's game was the match of this seasons championship.Mayo have been accused of lacking bottle but showed it in spades today.Unfair to have the replay in Limerick IMO... Kerry have played a number of championship games there and obviously have an advantage . .

dubtastic (Dublin) - Posts: 6 - 24/08/2014 20:51:51    1641406

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Good man Crossfieldball!

The deal is done for the American Football, the game is fixed and I'm not suggesting it should be changed. I just think its strange that the GAA thought it was a good idea to rent Croke Park out during August/September, the most important months of the GAA calender.

Enjoy the American football and stay classy

Cherno_Samba (Louth) - Posts: 632 - 24/08/2014 21:06:22    1641415

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dubtastic

Unfair to have Dublin in Croke Park for nearly every game they in league and champ.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 24/08/2014 21:06:24    1641416

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Ah, the bould Brolly. No matter how good the occasion he'll pick out some negatives eventually. For such an intelligent witty man he can be a real pain in the arse at times.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8001 - 24/08/2014 21:11:41    1641423

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I'm not sure if this is greed, as much as really poor planning. August is the busiest month when it comes to staging games in Croke Park. This month alone you had round 3 qualifiers, quarter-finals and semi-finals in the football, and 2 days of hurling semi-finals. Always likely that you'll have a replay somewhere, so August is the worst month to arrange anything in Croke Park other than football or hurling. Add to that the pressure of keeping the pitch in optimum condition, and it really is the one month where Croke Park needs to be managed carefully. Outside of August, and September, its not as much of a problem. Post September, the GAA should try and stage as much as they can in Croke Park over the winter months while its lying idle, be that American Football or whatever else.

But the primary purpose of Croke Park is still to facilitate and be a big stage for Gaelic Games. Fixing a game like this during Croke parks busiest time of year (for Gaelic games) seems ill thought out.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 24/08/2014 21:13:50    1641424

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You ever hear of Godwin's Law ziggy?

How in the name of lamb of jaysus has Dublin anything to do with where the replay is? Really, you ought to get out more!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 24/08/2014 21:14:16    1641425

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