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Armagh media ban

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Did anyone see or hear the Sunday Game on Sunday evening - full of inaccuracies - the Mallon brothers - they are not brothers....

Yeah, and as one wag put it, those other two sets of brothers the Stefan Brothers Campbell and Forker and the Aaron Brothers Kernan and Findon ;-)

OuchitsFrancie (Tyrone) - Posts: 31 - 06/08/2014 15:01:00    1632492

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Armagh fully entitled to do what they want. The fans I met on sat night were happy enough looking to me! Sure the media is a joke, twisting words and asking questions to try and make players say controversial or silly things. Laughed alright about the 'Mallon' brothers - the laugh is that those two players have been knocking about for over 10years, and have played in croker regularly!

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 06/08/2014 15:16:35    1632497

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To be honest I don't think the Armagh media ban has anything to do with their good run.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 06/08/2014 15:23:59    1632508

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Would be no harm if their was a media ban put on a few managers interviews after matches, Most are afraid to say they were happy with their teams performance.

Eamon fitzmaurice for example ,reporter " well Eamon ye beat limerick (insert any munster team)by 155 points . Ye only sent out 10 players for the second half so as to rest a few for for the AllIreland quarter final , what are thoughts on the game ."

Eamon "aah we did okaaay ,We knew limerick would put it up to us , and the score doesnt reflect how well they competed today, weve a lot to improve on and if we play like that the next day we certainly wont be going any further." cue same answer for every win in Munster.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 06/08/2014 16:07:02    1632533

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Its my understanding that the nominations for the all-stars are made by a panel of GAA journalists. With this in mind, I wonder has anybody on the Armagh panel considered that, through their silence, they´ve talked themselves out of any all-star nominations?

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 06/08/2014 17:35:04    1632605

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Its my understanding that the nominations for the all-stars are made by a panel of GAA journalists. With this in mind, I wonder has anybody on the Armagh panel considered that, through their silence, they´ve talked themselves out of any all-star nominations?

All stars are nice. But I'm sure the players would rather win things on the pitch then off it. None of the players would trade an all-star for a win over Donegal, so it wouldn't even register as a concern.

JP91 (Armagh) - Posts: 316 - 06/08/2014 17:41:02    1632609

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extranjero

I'm sure if Armagh beat Donegal and any lad deserves an all star then they will get the votes. Don't think reporters will take this personally - sure they can watch the game, tactics, rate the players etc without interviewing guys and do what they are paid to do - REPORT on the games!

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 06/08/2014 17:46:20    1632612

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Ath Cliath for a Leinster man to be criticising any other province really makes you look rather foolish.

commercials1 (Limerick) - Posts: 115 - 06/08/2014 18:27:40    1632631

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JP91 and Brolly, you both raise good points, any intercounty player worthy of the name would surely forego personal glory in exchange for overall victory for their team, and anybody good enough to win an all-star should win one regardless of who they play for.

But the point I was making was this; if the Armagh panel and managment has decided to ignore the national media, would it be acceptable for the national media to ignore them when awarding individual plaudits at the end of the year?

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 06/08/2014 18:46:13    1632641

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I agree with Ath Cliath. 99% of GAA interviews are a complete waste of time in which the interviewee just trots out a bunch of tired old cliches and says nothing remotely interesting. The media could just re-use interviews from previous years and nobody would notice.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 1035 - 06/08/2014 18:49:30    1632644

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my friend in wexford - the media have ignored armagh and other counties with theit brutal coverage
1. armagh v cavan 1minute 30 sec coverage
2. aramgh v tyrone 2mins coverage

the media is biased - look at bitegate 1, 2 and 3

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 06/08/2014 18:56:02    1632646

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I think the GAA should start giving fines to counties that start this nonsense. Sky and RTE are paying big money to get the rights to these games. It is becoming to common and I think it't time they stepped in and did something about these childish antics.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 586 - 06/08/2014 19:30:18    1632649

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Athcliath - that's a few digs you've had at Kerry not sure what your issue is but it makes you look juvenile.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 06/08/2014 19:43:23    1632654

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Athcliath has a point even if it is aimed at Kerry. Eamon Fitzmaurice is a pretty likeable manager all the same though.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 06/08/2014 20:49:44    1632682

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westkerry
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1632654 Athcliath - that's a few digs you've had at Kerry not sure what your issue is but it makes you look juvenile.


Just saying i find it hard when ye know the same words are going to be trotted before interview has began, I think Eamon is a good manager , he just suffers from the usual yerra yerra. Sometimes it monotonous thats all. Apologies to limerick poster i was just using Limerick as an example.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 06/08/2014 21:03:05    1632690

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Paddy Heaney did a fine article about this in Irish News yesterday. Not one thing I could argue with. He basically makes the point that there are a lot of Armagh players new to this level and the media ban is denying them the chance to get some sort of recognition. It's alright for the senior players who have had plenty of publicity over the years but to deny the less experienced doesn't make sense to me. He also makes the point that the media ban also denies the players relatives the chance to enjoy the players moment in the spotlight. What happens if they win on Sunday? Surely they can't go on behaving like this.

gl1965 (Armagh) - Posts: 5 - 06/08/2014 21:12:07    1632698

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The Armagh media ban is one of the longest standing psychological tactics in gaelic football. It is something that Grimely is using to create a siege mentality between his players and the rest of the country. The them and us mentality is used to make players play even harder, against the odds so to speak to up their performance. Teams do it every year, monaghan were doing it to an extent this year, constantly saying they were underdogs and written off, despite being ulster and league division 2 champions and playing regularly at home. Tyrone do it every year, but it hasnt worked that well lately. Donegal did it last year and it failed spectacularly. it might even be an ulster thing, who knows!

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3849 - 07/08/2014 10:15:32    1632790

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cuchulainn35
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my friend in wexford - the media have ignored armagh and other counties with theit brutal coverage
1. armagh v cavan 1minute 30 sec coverage
2. aramgh v tyrone 2mins coverage

the media is biased - look at bitegate 1, 2 and 3


That is brutal alright. That was RTE though. Are the team speaking to local media in Armagh? local radio/newspapers etc who I am sure (well not 'sure' as I don't live there) give more coverage to Armagh games?

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 07/08/2014 11:15:23    1632836

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who cares about the media.. as already shown, certain pundits want to hog the limelight with idiotic remarks that they later have to say "sorry " for, gets boring really, if many of these reporters are such experts, hows that they only run they ever did, was to the fridge?

Best be silent and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt!!

sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 07/08/2014 18:58:10    1633152

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Great effort by Armagh, still don't think it was inspired by the media ban. The players minds are not that simple. Kids might need that but adults have skill and determination. Management might have needed it more than the players!

fifty (Mayo) - Posts: 108 - 10/08/2014 11:12:40    1634159

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