There is no answer to that mod. Simply not good enough.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 13/03/2015 19:51:56    1702415

RTE served up a 1:25hr league highlights show last evening, and never once informed viewers that KK could no longer win the competition, that Galway had already reached a q/f, or that the relegation playoff would be contested between Kilkenny and Clare/Dublin. Instead we had 'expert analysis' waffling about KK's point differential while looking at a Div 1A table, and suggesting that next week's matches leave 'a lot to play for'. Expert analysis indeed!

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4127 - 16/03/2015 15:06:47    1703423

Fact 1. RTE couldn't afford to send even one camera to even one football or hurling match in all of January. Fact 2. RTE can however afford to send a reporter and crew to the Superbowl in the US. Fact 3. RTE can also afford to send a reporter for a full month+ all the way to Australia for the Cricket World Cup. Fact 4. RTE has now decided to spend a considerable amount of the license payers money on broadcasting the Women's 6N Rugby Union match from Scotland this Sunday. The game will receive the full outside broadcast treatment despite the fact that this year's competition is accepted to be something of a non-event. The RTE hyping up of the game fails to acknowledge that truth. England didn't even play their No.1 team preferring instead to let their best players play in 7's competitions elsewhere around the world. No matter who wins this year's competition it won't be regarded as a real achievement given the poverty of the opposition. That shouldn't be forgotten in the midst of all the RTE/D4 rugby union hype. A bigger crowd watched Cork and Kerry U-21's last night than will watch this game yet RTE didn't even give updates on the U-21 game never mind very expensive live coverage. Same old same old Rugby Telefis Eireann.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 19/03/2015 17:48:20    1704554

I notice from the twitter account rtewatch He measured the mentions given to three sports during each Mon to Friday inclusive on rte's Six One news sports section from January 1st. To date Rugby has featured 51 times Hurling only 15 times and Gaelic football just 18 times. Quite a difference. And they used to refer to the GAA as the Grab All Association.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 19/03/2015 20:47:44    1704621

Same old rubbish from 'Media' man? Facts ??? How do you know RTE could not afford to send a camera to an inter-county GAA match in January? How do you know they didn't decide just not to cover GAA in January? They sent a reporter and 'crew' to the Superbowl. Define crew. Some Irish people do actively follow the NFL in The States. Cricket World Cup where Ireland did well in Australia???? Why shouldn't RTE publicise the Women's rugby. Great that they do well and more and more women are trying it.

What will you do in the summer when the hurling and football championships are on? Criticise RTEs coverage or come up with fictional one-eyed accounts of rugby being mentionec on Irish 'media'. Troll.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7969 - 19/03/2015 21:01:52    1704626

Green and Red there are none so blind as those who will not see. Perhaps you might come up with a few facts of your own. To date all you offer are opinions. Of course no one begrudges the coverage of women's sport. It is a matter of fair play. Ladies GAA is much more popular from a participation point of view and spectator attendance than ladies rugby so it is reasonable to question the prominence given to a minority sport by our national broadcaster. The licence fee is paid by us all RTE is a public service and should not act as the PR Dept. of one sectional interest.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 19/03/2015 21:17:38    1704632

Mod, can Mediaman never answer my questions?
I've offered plenty of facts Mod unlike your source of record on Twitter. RTE market rugby now, GAA in the summer cos they have sponsors and viewers for those sports at different times of the year. They have a rugby sponsorship, fairly lucrative, and the Women's 6 Nations is on right now, the ideal time to promote it. We both know how good the women's GAA is at home but they can dovetail together, even Cora is doing great at the rugby.

I see your point on the licence and would like more GAA but I'd rather RTE axe some of their so-called comedy shows rather than rugby or soccer or other sports to fit more GAA in.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7969 - 19/03/2015 21:37:43    1704640

No problem with RTE promoting Irish ladies rugby . It would be nice to see other Irish ladies sports both team and individual afforded a fraction of the coverage and promotion that is afforded to Irish ladies rugby which according to Philip Browne has 4,000 adult participants in Ireland.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 20/03/2015 12:11:50    1704731

G&R its amusing that you describe Mediamans posts as rubbish and call him a troll, yet wonder why he doesn't respond to your questions. I don't understand why anyone has a go at him anyway, he contributes interesting stats and it is up to everyone to draw their own conclusions. I notice that the RTEwatch twitter account states that for 7 weeks so far in 2015 rugby has been mentioned on every 6.1 news bulletin, but not in a single week last year was gaelic football or hurling mentioned every night. That in itself is interesting, there may be different reasons why it would be the case but you should discuss that on here rather than attacking posters.
Greengrass I agree with that - I think the fact that womens rugby is maybe the 6th or 7th most popular female sport in the country yet receives the greatest amount of coverage on RTE makes many people query the basis on which decisions are made in Donnybrook. There can not be many countries in the western world where the most popular female sport in terms of participation, attendance and geographic spread does not have a single minute of live broadcast on the national tv station.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/03/2015 12:40:57    1704745

I have discussed it here Soma. It's 6 Nations time and RTE have a sponsor and are trying to profit in advertising revenue through rugby viewers nationally. They'll do the same with GAA championships in the summer
I'm not disputing RTE have more rugby than GAA coverage at this time of year. Mediaman just rants at other non-GAA sports getting any coverage on RTE and gives half stories. I replied to his last post pointing that out. In my opinion he's negative on every non-GAA sport and that's trolling for me.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7969 - 20/03/2015 15:10:02    1704802

Last Saturday after showing the Wales V Ireland match there was a significant gap between it & the proceeding England V Scotland game. So what did RTE do? They showed the Ireland V Wales game AGAIN!!! Compare this to cramming highlights & analysis of a full round of hurling & football league (over 60 games) into one hour on Sunday evening...!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 20/03/2015 15:33:12    1704813

I'll probably break the internet with this one, but might there be too much sport in general on Irish TV? There's more to life.

I'll get me coat...

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 20/03/2015 16:11:37    1704840

Do .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 20/03/2015 17:04:36    1704862

There's not enough sport on Irish TV for me, not having Sky Sports, BT, ESPN or other sports channels. Not enough on the wireless either so I'd listen to Talksport now and then.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7969 - 20/03/2015 19:23:06    1704910

the point is rugby consistently gets more coverage than it deserves..the 6 nations deserves coverage but the womens or u20s dont considering the interest in both competitions which is tiny..its nothing to do with sponsorship..if you are going to make a point make a valid 1...the point is the coverage given to 1 sport dwarfs others which have more of a following

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 20/03/2015 19:50:56    1704919

It does Fabio. But this is peak season for the rugby and it has loads of armchair viewers rather than viewers of GAA who are mostly actively involved in the game. Can't broadcast the GAA championships in February/March and can't broadcast the 6 Nations in the summer.

I don't know why they show U20s, can't see much viwership there, maybe it's part ot their coverage deal. Even though it'd gget less again viwership than U20s I can see benefit in that. Helps to publicise a sport that many young ladies aren't even aware of but is getting more and more popular. Surely it's a good thing to have girls participating in sports, no matter what the sport.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7969 - 20/03/2015 20:13:57    1704926

Given the appetite for sporting programming in Ireland, would a dedicated Irish sports channel be sustainable? On Saorview?

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 20/03/2015 20:39:42    1704933

Green and red i don't think anyone minds women rugby getting coverage if other women's sport gets coverage as well. You mention female involvement in sport but women's rugby has only a fraction of the players ladies gaa or soccer has for example. Even when the Irish rugby women's team are not playing there is still women rugby player on radio and tv programmes, you never see ladies footballers invited on to these shows.loo The under 20 rugby is not part of the 6 nations agreement. You just have to look at the contentious poor treatment of Katie Taylor by Rte it took them 3 months to interview her on a chat show after her world title win and then when the did it was left to 11.35 on friday night and the interview had to end at only 5 minutes into it. It anyone complains about rte not sending a camera to a league match you bang on about limited resources, yet you see no problem Rte sending a crew to Arizona for at least 5 days to cover an American football match and you would have to ask even for these who are into that sport what did it add to there enjoyment of that game, there was no Irish angle, i think it fair to say he could have done as good of a report if he has stayed in Dublin.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 20/03/2015 21:11:51    1704940

its not a good thing greenandred for a minority sport like womens rugby to be shown at the expense of sports like womens soccer, womens basketball and womens gaa which would be much bigger sports for women in ireland..the senior side bring in sponsorship...the u20s and womens side have nothing to do with this..the twitter account mentioned deals with facts and they are all to see

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 20/03/2015 21:14:00    1704941

I think the coverage of the schools finals that took place over the last week perfectly sums up the point of this thread Rte shows clips of the Munster, Ulster and Leinster rugby finals on tuesday yet had not a mention of the ulster football final which was on the same day and was televised, the also mentioned the Connacht rugby final the day before and the day of the final yet had no mention of the Connacht football final last Friday. The also covered the rugby finals on game on on 2 fm on Tuesday evening, yet last friday evening the did not mention the 2 division 1 football games and any in division 2, 3 or 4 that evening. Look at there lack of coverage of the very interesting under 21 football championship . Even look at the scheduling of there coverage the all ireland club finals were dumped at 11.20 on a week night, yet looking at tomorrows schedule you would imagine that showing rugby from 12 to 7.30 would be enough for one day but of course this is Rte so the are showing the Ronan O'Gara documentary once again from 9.40 to 11.00.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 20/03/2015 21:26:34    1704944