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Tg4 are showing highlights of the kerry and Cavan games, why can Rte not show these games on league Sunday instead of games that have already been shown at full length by other broadcasters. Six games have cameras sent to them by other broadcasters why can Rte not send camera to at least some others games. Then there is covering 2 all ireland semi finals with no analysis and about a mins each. Even if someone else had cameras at every other league game i believe the would not bother showing the highlights. Off course weekends where there are both hurling and football league games on the will only cover 2 games in each sport, yet the can still find time to show ail games and send a camera to the usa to cover the super bowl.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 09/02/2015 20:49:18    1691878

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09/02/2015 19:48:54
GreenandRed
Mediaman, I wouldn't be surprised if someone from the IRFU and/or the clubs innvolved are sorting out their own camera crews to publicise rugby. You well know there's no shortage of money in some Dublin rugby clubs. I know some cameramen and they've told me that RTE are very tight with their money and they'd rather subcontract work, not just sports, rather than investing in equipment and hiring more fulltime camera and sound people. I know people will say money makes money and rugby can well afford to give money to a few video people. But the GAA themselves are missing a trick by not spending a bit on marketing.
IRFU have streamed a large number of club AIL games and also have video highlights of plenty of AIL Division 1A/B games throughout the season after a weekends action. Some of it is their own and other videos are from the clubs. Perhaps they send the footage into RTE who use it. Do clubs and counties do the same for hurling/gaelic
What clubs In Dublin are those where there is "no shortage of money"?
09/02/2015 20:06:43 fabio8
again this continous response about contacting rte..numerous people including myself have stated we have already contacted rte about this issue and there was 0 response..you will notice mediaman praises rte where the coverage given is correct...his posts have been very informative in highlighting the bias or neglect of gaa by the broadcaster
Who have you contacted. Are you willing to post up the responses you received. Any email sent to a RTE head of staff/open email will receive some sort of acknowledgement
There isn't a bias and if there is a neglect in GAA coverage what is he and the GAA doing to fix the problem. Just commenting here will not begin a charge for change but petitioning RTE and other media sources etc will do more than just posting here
09/02/2015 20:22:05
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Lads most county teams have their own cameras recording their games. I know Dublin had a camera for the o Byrne cup games so rte could easily have looked for that footage the same way they take tg4 and setanta footage.
Have to say watched a bit of our game on setanta on Saturday night when I got home and their sound quality is diabolical. They must just take the commentary and have one microphone as you can barely hear any stadium noise
You would hope at inter county level clubs are videoing their own games as the majority of club teams in other sports(rugby especially) video all their games. Happens from top schools to club under 20 and club first/second teams....
09/02/2015 20:49:18 ROS1
Tg4 are showing highlights of the kerry and Cavan games, why can Rte not show these games on league Sunday instead of games that have already been shown at full length by other broadcasters. Six games have cameras sent to them by other broadcasters why can Rte not send camera to at least some others games. Then there is covering 2 all ireland semi finals with no analysis and about a mins each. Even if someone else had cameras at every other league game i believe the would not bother showing the highlights. Off course weekends where there are both hurling and football league games on the will only cover 2 games in each sport, yet the can still find time to show ail games and send a camera to the usa to cover the super bowl.
Why don't you contact RTE and ask them why they don't cover those games?
What lack of analysis of all Ireland semis?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/02/2015 21:08:36    1691889

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Louth V Fermanagh highlights are available on youtube. Most Wicklow games are on line. Armagh have a lot online as well.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 09/02/2015 21:26:22    1691899

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Yes our friend from Clare makes a relevant point - What is the GAA doing about this?

I love all sports, I appreciate all sports but I'm heavily involved in the GAA - I'm i supposea GAA man... I see the soccer coverage is extensive - you see TV cameras at every ground the same for rugby, horse-racing, I feel that RTE flagship Sunday programme is awful.... just footage from TG4 and Sentata......

There's no point complaining... we need to act....

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 09/02/2015 21:47:46    1691906

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again people have a right to offer their opinion on what rte are doing wrong..this is the ideal place for doing that..why are you constantly trying to get people to stop people offering their views..you have constantly changed the argument ridiculous point after ridiculous point...last week it was rugby being huge in south africa..at the weekend it was league not being respected and again you are back to the usual contact rte garbage...on what basis is there to show wolfhounds games over a league match?...0..and they could get the rights if they wanted so spare me that response

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 09/02/2015 21:54:54    1691912

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09/02/2015 21:47:46 cuchulainn35
Yes our friend from Clare makes a relevant point - What is the GAA doing about this?
I love all sports, I appreciate all sports but I'm heavily involved in the GAA - I'm i supposea GAA man... I see the soccer coverage is extensive - you see TV cameras at every ground the same for rugby, horse-racing, I feel that RTE flagship Sunday programme is awful.... just footage from TG4 and Sentata......
There's no point complaining... we need to act....

09/02/2015 21:54:54 fabio8
again people have a right to offer their opinion on what rte are doing wrong..this is the ideal place for doing that..why are you constantly trying to get people to stop people offering their views..you have constantly changed the argument ridiculous point after ridiculous point...last week it was rugby being huge in south africa..at the weekend it was league not being respected and again you are back to the usual contact rte garbage...on what basis is there to show wolfhounds games over a league match?...0..and they could get the rights if they wanted so spare me that response
Yes they can offer opinions on what RTE are supposedly doing wrong but until they act and do something then RTE will never no that people are unhappy. Make websites/petitions and get wider public to know what ye're plans are
I haven't changed my argument at all. They have all been points in the same argument. How is saying contact RTE garbage when you and others are clearly upset/traumatised by RTE's poor coverage of hurling/gaelic
RTE show wolfhound game as its part of same package as the 6Ns
How do you know RTE could get the rights if they wanted to? Why don't you contact RTE and find out why they haven't got the rights to league games....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/02/2015 11:50:55    1691998

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i have contacted rte..and so have other people..that is the point you are continously ignoring....i dont recall wolfhounds games being shown before...what happened your south africa point so?..you realised you were talking utter nonsense?...at the rate we are going rte will soon show all the senior matches..the womens games..the u20s and the 'b' team

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 10/02/2015 14:28:27    1692107

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10/02/2015 14:28:27
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i have contacted rte..and so have other people..that is the point you are continously ignoring....i dont recall wolfhounds games being shown before...what happened your south africa point so?..you realised you were talking utter nonsense?...at the rate we are going rte will soon show all the senior matches..the womens games..the u20s and the 'b' team
Ireland A or the "Wolfhounds" as they are now known have virtually every year had games shown live on RTE in the week prior to the 6Nations.
How did you contact RTE? Who did you contact? What are you willing to do to effect the changes, judging by your posts on the topic, you deeply desire?
Have you or are you willing to create a campaign to embarrass RTE into making changes?
If im talking nonsense then you must also be talking nonsense. RTE show some womens games on tv, others on their website. They show a max of 5 under 20 games a year with the others being on Sky/TG4.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/02/2015 15:22:13    1692131

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i emailed them as well as sending a letter..again i ask you what happened your point on south africa?...you have continously showed yourself on this site to be nothing more than a self appointed rugby police constantly disagreeing with others and making baseless points...thats a lot more underage games and womens games than they show for their counterparts in soccer and gaa which are much bigger sports in this country..again you seem to have a major problem with mediaman highlighting the bias that exists...all he has posted is facts and information

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 10/02/2015 16:01:42    1692157

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virtually every year?..i can remember them games being on sky quite a bit...dont rte also show the ireland team made up of club players live on tv also?

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 10/02/2015 16:03:11    1692158

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Interesting to see Kevin McStay on league Sunday not commetating on Mayo poor performance.Was he afraid to have a go at the management who got job over him??Not like McSray to be quiet.he has no problems slagging off Tyrone,Derry

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 10/02/2015 17:07:40    1692184

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to be fair not sure mcstay should be put in a position about analysing mayo as whatever negative thing he says could be seen as bitter or biased

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 10/02/2015 17:19:43    1692190

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Ormond this is the first year that rte have shown the wolfhounds game, it is not part of the 6 nations package as Bbc are the host broadcaster for Ireland's six nations games and Rte are only a secondary broadcaster and the BBc never show this game. You mention the u20 and women's rugby the show, well the don't show one under age gaa match or one ladies football game which is the point. The had no analysis of 2 club all Ireland semi finals and you keep coming up with the same nonsense about complaining to Rte when a number of people have done so and received bland standard corporate replies.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 10/02/2015 20:08:36    1692264

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Some day ormo, some day youll admit youre wrong.
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow,but some day........

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 10/02/2015 20:38:57    1692270

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I'm sure everyone agrees that honesty in sport is important. So it's really surprising to see the ads which are currently running for what is being described as a match in May between Ireland and the Barbarians in Thomond Park in Limerick. This suggests that it is a full international match when in fact it is nothing of the sort. It's just another friendly match and it's only an Ireland XV or 'B' team that will be playing. Full international caps will not be awarded for this friendly indeed the IRFU has an agreement with an insurance company not to play full internationals outside Lansdowne Road. The ads are misleading but I have no doubt RTE will give this friendly full international status and seek to broadcast it live no doubt at the expense of football and hurling coverage as per usual.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 10/02/2015 20:52:39    1692275

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not so long ago he was stating the 6 nations was as big as the world cup..he changed his tune on that recently despite maintaining that stance when questioned

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 10/02/2015 21:00:25    1692279

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RTE gives the impression day in day out that rugby union is our most popular sport . There have even been suggestions that based on viewing figures rugby union makes more money for RTE than other sports. The facts suggest something else. Eight sports events make it into the Top 50 Most Watched RTE programmes of this century 2000-2014. Football and hurling are responsible for 4 of those (50%). In 21st position Dublin Kerry 2011, in 26th position Dublin Mayo 2013, in 39th Kilkenny Tipperary 2010 and in 49th position Donegal Mayo 2012. Soccer has 3 in the top 50. Ireland Croatia 2012, Ireland Spain 2012 and Ireland France 2009 in that order. Only one rugby union match makes it into the top 50, Ireland England 2007 at number 37. The RTE authorities are well aware of these figures but sadly their sports coverage is a compete distortion of this reality. Unlike some RTE promos the facts don't lie.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 11/02/2015 21:33:37    1692679

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I'm sure everyone agrees that honesty in sport is important. So it's really surprising to see the ads which are currently running for what is being described as a match in May between Ireland and the Barbarians in Thomond Park in Limerick. This suggests that it is a full international match when in fact it is nothing of the sort. It's just another friendly match and it's only an Ireland XV or 'B' team that will be playing. Full international caps will not be awarded for this friendly indeed the IRFU has an agreement with an insurance company not to play full internationals outside Lansdowne Road. The ads are misleading but I have no doubt RTE will give this friendly full international status and seek to broadcast it live no doubt at the expense of football and hurling coverage as per usual.


I can't believe it! An advert trying to hype something up. What did Joe Duffy say about this clear injustice?

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 12/02/2015 12:22:41    1692825

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A lot of apologists for RTE are forgetting GAA is not A sport. It is an umbrella organisation for many sports, two of whom (hurling and Gaelic Football)are more popular in Ireland than rugby.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 12/02/2015 12:27:50    1692830

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mediaman
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I'm sure everyone agrees that honesty in sport is important. So it's really surprising to see the ads which are currently running for what is being described as a match in May between Ireland and the Barbarians in Thomond Park in Limerick. This suggests that it is a full international match when in fact it is nothing of the sort. It's just another friendly match and it's only an Ireland XV or 'B' team that will be playing. Full international caps will not be awarded for this friendly indeed the IRFU has an agreement with an insurance company not to play full internationals outside Lansdowne Road. The ads are misleading but I have no doubt RTE will give this friendly full international status and seek to broadcast it live no doubt at the expense of football and hurling coverage as per usual.


Good on them. The GAA try to big up the GAA championship/league etc with 'nothing beats being there' etc. Ireland v Barbarians in the grander scheme of things is a nothing match and most rugby fans will see it as nothing more but sure if they reduce the prices for adults, bring in a load of kids for free etc it would probably be a jolly ould day out. Let us see who goes and then maybe the GAA should copy them..

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 12/02/2015 17:22:38    1693026

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