joncarter
County: Galway
Posts: 1547

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Mes, what is THE culture then, and remember, for it to be part of the culture of Ireland, it must be distinguishable from the culture of any other nation, otherwise it is not really OUR culture.
And be specific.

THE culture is everything we do and how we do it man.

It evolves and changes all the time, if I had to be here and list them all I'd be here all night! You've picked 3 things that make you Irish when in fact there are thousands!

To apply your criteria the majority of Irish people aren't really Irish at all!

My whole point to you is that all you think is good about the country all exists in the city as well, and that all you think is bad about Dublin exists down the country as well.

You dismiss the things you think as "Irish" in Dublin (language, GAA and music) as only there because of blow ins ignoring the fact that where there parents WERE from makes no odds as they are Dubs now. People from all over Ireland make Dublin. It is as much your city as mine and is a reflection on the values and traditions of the entire country.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 03/02/2015 14:30:58    1689656

RTE Television did not send a reporter to the O'Byrne Cup Final or indeed any of the Subsidiary Cup Finals in Ireland however they did send a reporter to the Superbowl in the US. It's this irrational approach to sport which people find impossible to understand. No television coverage of crowd pulling GAA fixtures in January was an insult made worse by the live coverage of last week's reserve team rugby union friendly and now the totally unnecessary attendance of a reporter at the Superbowl. If RTE Sport wants to be taken seriously it will have to start operating on the basis of an all round 'just' policy rather than on the individual prejudice of a few. It's time once again to take on the vested interests and burst the RTE/D4/Southside Rugby school bubble.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 03/02/2015 15:04:30    1689669

this somebody is more irish cause they speak whatever language or music is just laughable..people can like whatever they want..plenty of strong irish speaking areas in dublin...difference with dublin is it is on a much bigger scale than everywhere else and therefore has such a variety of people..would agree there is a bit of a hatred towards gaa by certain elements maybe in strong soccer areas which is more a hangover of the ban but gaa is only getting bigger in dublin

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 03/02/2015 15:45:45    1689695

Mike04 using your logic as the rugby world cup is on this year then every other rugby game including the 6 nations should get limited coverage as the world cup is the most important competition, similarly the soccer world cup last year. Look at the teams that played last weekend most teams played the strongest sides the could, even you mention Kerry the still had a pile of all Ireland winners and all stars on there teams and there was probably more Kerry fans at that game then at a Kerry all Ireland quarter final. Some counties only have 12 competitive matches a year with only 2 of those championships games, the national league, like the under 21 championships, like ladies football, like the club championships, like the international rules, like the minor championships are important competitions largely ignored by the Rte. If the Fbd etc finals were shown the would get a good viewer ship.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 03/02/2015 20:59:34    1689835

As expected RTE has now gone into overdrive in an effort to hype up its 6 Nations rugby union coverage. Blood stirring promos, repeated injury updates and more interviews than in the week before an All-Ireland Hurling or Football Final. Now there may be games later in the competition that deserve this kind of build up but this mismatch against Italy in Rome isn't one of them. The reality is that this is the easiest game Ireland will have all year in spite of what the rugby union analysts try to tell us in their efforts to make it sound like a huge challenge for Ireland. Which of course it isn't.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 04/02/2015 18:42:31    1690156

i have to say i thought tonights main news section was a disgrace
there was a horrific plane disaster in taiwan and it was not a main news headline!
26 people lost their lives and the plane came down in the capital city and almost onto a busy motorway.
could you imagine if this happened in london or new york
a whole bulletin would have been given to it
you cannot value one persons life over another persons because of what country they live in.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/02/2015 19:01:04    1690169

04/02/2015 18:42:31 mediaman
As expected RTE has now gone into overdrive in an effort to hype up its 6 Nations rugby union coverage. Blood stirring promos, repeated injury updates and more interviews than in the week before an All-Ireland Hurling or Football Final. Now there may be games later in the competition that deserve this kind of build up but this mismatch against Italy in Rome isn't one of them. The reality is that this is the easiest game Ireland will have all year in spite of what the rugby union analysts try to tell us in their efforts to make it sound like a huge challenge for Ireland. Which of course it isn't. 6 Nations makes RTE a huge amount of money so of course the promotion will be as big as possible. The advertising isn't simply for the Italian game its for the tournament as a whole and this game will not be the easiest game Ireland will have all year and is vital for the world cup and striking a blow to the Italians who we play in the world cup later on this year.
04/02/2015 19:01:04 hill16no1man
i have to say i thought tonights main news section was a disgrace there was a horrific plane disaster in taiwan and it was not a main news headline! 26 people lost their lives and the plane came down in the capital city and almost onto a busy motorway. could you imagine if this happened in london or new York a whole bulletin would have been given to it you cannot value one persons life over another persons because of what country they live in. If the story happened in New York/London there is more interest due to higher potential of irish deaths etc. I didn't se the news and what did they lead with on the news in its place if that story wasn't lead story?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/02/2015 13:09:06    1690364

The world rugby union rankings which we are told are very important suggest that Ireland/Italy is a mismatch. Ireland, ranked 3rd in the world against Italy ranked 14th in the world behind Japan, Fiji and Tonga and just ahead of Georgia a team Ireland recently beat by 40+ points. Italy has only won 11 games in the last 15 years of 6 Nations rugby winning the 'wooden spoon' on 10 occasions. Italy's success rate against Ireland is 17.3%. Italian club rugby is the worst in Europe (unless you count Romania) as shown by recent results in European competitions. Italian rugby is at its lowest ebb for years. Why the previews are hiding this fact is anyone's guess. Ireland must win this mismatch by at least 30 points if not more. No amount of RTE hype can disguise the real facts.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 05/02/2015 14:51:40    1690399

ormond it was ahorrific plane crash
it shouldnt matter who are where it is
26 people died
for you to see it is more important if it happens in london or new york is disgusting!
it was 6.25 by the time it was given any mention on the six one news.
there was about 5 or 6 stories before it
and the main story was a case settlement out of court involving rory mcclroy who wasnt even there

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/02/2015 14:59:40    1690404

Just alerted by a promo for the RTE rugby union show Against the Head to the fact that RTE is now covering All Ireland League rugby as well as everything else. RTE couldn't send one camera to any of the GAA's matches Over the last month but last weekend they sent cameras to 3 club rugby matches Landsdowne v Ballynahinch, Terenure v Dolphin and UCD v Clontarf. Matches attended by less than 100 spectators put ahead of games attracting over 8,000 people. This is a new level of RTE bias. They ignore games people are actually interested in seeing in favour of rugby games their own supporters don't even bother going to. Another shameful abuse of the GAA and it's supporters.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 05/02/2015 20:20:15    1690541

mediaman
County: Dublin
Posts: 151

I would agree with you, but people need to complain to RTE and to the GAA, RTE are part funded by the tax payer end off. For me the most telling reaction was in the annual sports awards. The Team of the Year - which was a phone/online etc vote was the Cork Ladies Football. The shock on the RTE's presenters voice was so funny, he actually repeated three times just to convince himself not alone his preferred choice. This also exposed a lot of sexist guff from knuckle dragging cave dwellers, but that is a different story. Ladies football is one of the largest participant sports in Ireland and growing faster than any other from primary schools up, it is played in the four corners of Dublin even in the postal districts commonly associated with a different shaped ball.

Its time for these organisations to use their clout, RTE are doing a grave disservice to the GAA and its affliated sports, to say otherwise is just wrong. I wouldn't want them to show these sports at the expense of other sports, but that cuts both ways a bit of honesty in the debate would go a long way.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4956 - 07/02/2015 12:33:01    1690892

Odd to say RTE are doing the GAA a great disservice when the GAA sold the rights to another channel. Do you really expect to hype up a competition that the GAA sold to a a competitor?

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4656 - 07/02/2015 13:45:21    1690903

bad.monkey
County: USA
Posts: 3981

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Odd to say RTE are doing the GAA a great disservice when the GAA sold the rights to another channel. Do you really expect to hype up a competition that the GAA sold to a a competitor?

wrong again
gaa sold tv3 rights to sky
rte actually increased their amount of championship matches in the deal

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/02/2015 14:07:05    1690907

bad.monkey
County: USA
Posts: 3981
Odd to say RTE are doing the GAA a great disservice when the GAA sold the rights to another channel.

I don't really understand that, RTEs GAA coverage was/is always poor and nothing to do with the TV rights given to other channels. I'd prefer to see them with zero rights they just don't deserve it.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4956 - 07/02/2015 16:21:20    1690925

Whats wrong with Rte coverage?
They pay no attention to the league or club games, granted, but theres nothing wrong with the coverage they do give.
Okay, sky might use their much vaunted technology to drown us in statistics that dont mean much (not to me anyway)but apart from that....meh.
What could RTE do to improve their coverage arock?

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 07/02/2015 16:40:14    1690930

Respect the league, put honest insightful analysts in place and try to teach Sky's levels of presentation .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 07/02/2015 20:12:30    1690974

07/02/2015 16:40:14 joncarter
Whats wrong with Rte coverage?
They pay no attention to the league or club games, granted, but theres nothing wrong with the coverage they do give.
Okay, sky might use their much vaunted technology to drown us in statistics that dont mean much (not to me anyway)but apart from that....meh.
What could RTE do to improve their coverage arock? Why should RTE provide coverage for league games when so many GAA supporters say about the league that its "only the league" or the league is only "a warm-up for the championship"
07/02/2015 20:12:30 Greengrass
Respect the league, put honest insightful analysts in place and try to teach Sky's levels of presentation.Should the GAA not try respect the league before they expect other groups etc to respect it. Relate it to the championship. Possibly change how season is structured etc to help coverage of the league

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/02/2015 20:45:51    1690991

Fair point Ormo.
Even allowing for that it could still be better though, but I do agree that if the GAA people took the league more seriously than the RTE might too.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 07/02/2015 20:54:27    1690999

Grrengrass. Could you please expand on what you mean by insightful analysis and better levels of presentation.
What kind of insights do the sky pundits give that say, Joe Brolly, doesnt?
Whats so much better about skys presentation?

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 07/02/2015 20:59:35    1691004

"Dublin were reduced to 10 men when McMenamin was sent off." RTE Radio Sports News 9:03 pm

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 07/02/2015 21:04:42    1691009