In fairness to rte this evening they had to devote time to both matt o connor and the leinster scrum coach. When you add in important info on Chad Evans proposed move to league one Oldham and of course the squad announcement for the ever popular irish cricket team then maybe its perfectly understandable that there would be no time for a niche sport like gaa.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 05/01/2015 21:25:05    1680798

Since last September RTE Sports bulletins have invariably ended with 'And finally GAA'. So it was good, considering RTE's neglect of the subsidiary competitions in the run-in to the weekend, to switch on yesterday morning to hear football back as the lead item on the 8.40am RTE Sport's bulletin. But it didn't take long to find out why. Red cards, yellow cards, crowd congestion. The RTE presenters were almost giddy with excitement as they reminded listeners over and over of the number of cards in a match RTE almost completely ignored until there was something negative to report. There was no RTE reporter or RTE camera at the game and unless I'm very much mistaken it appeared the Kieran McGeeney interview was supplied by the BBC? So if football was important enough to be the lead item on Monday morning, the O'Byrne Cup Round 2 reports should be the lead item this Thursday morning and the rest of the subsidiary competitions should be the lead next Monday morning as well. Unless of course RTE is only interested in highlighting the more negative aspects of our games? We await Thursday morning with interest.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 06/01/2015 11:20:06    1680841

06/01/2015 11:20:06 mediaman
Since last September RTE Sports bulletins have invariably ended with 'And finally GAA'. So it was good, considering RTE's neglect of the subsidiary competitions in the run-in to the weekend, to switch on yesterday morning to hear football back as the lead item on the 8.40am RTE Sport's bulletin. But it didn't take long to find out why. Red cards, yellow cards, crowd congestion. The RTE presenters were almost giddy with excitement as they reminded listeners over and over of the number of cards in a match RTE almost completely ignored until there was something negative to report. There was no RTE reporter or RTE camera at the game and unless I'm very much mistaken it appeared the Kieran McGeeney interview was supplied by the BBC? So if football was important enough to be the lead item on Monday morning, the O'Byrne Cup Round 2 reports should be the lead item this Thursday morning and the rest of the subsidiary competitions should be the lead next Monday morning as well. Unless of course RTE is only interested in highlighting the more negative aspects of our games? We await Thursday morning with interest. Mediaman you have 105 posts mainly criticising RTE why don't you actually do something about the situation?
Why don't you create a blog which will create much more awareness to people you think may be interested in your idea that RTE are neglecting the GAA.
The competitions being plated are pre season competitions and have no relevance. A scrap involving 2 big teams and lots of yellows, a few reds should be covered on the news. That was covered as a story not because RTE want to show a negative news story but its 2 big teams who were fighting and scrapping instead of playing football.
The o byrne cups etc should not be lead items on the news. Rugby pro12/champions cup and other competitions are bigger and should be ahead of the o byrne cups etc

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/01/2015 12:39:27    1680869

Lets be realistic RTE's sports coverage is poor at the best of times but there was a news-worthy story in Armagh on Sunday and the cameras missed out:-
1. mc Geeney's return
2. Start of the season
3. the attendance and the ticketing problems - negative, but news-worthy
4. Harte's win in possibly his last yr


But lets cover Oldham or a mickey mouse horse-race in Nass,
I've no problem with cricket or rugby or golf etc, but second tier English soccer!!!!

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1691 - 06/01/2015 13:03:14    1680873

Strange that the citing of a Leinster rugby player for an "alleged" stamp in the game v Ulster last weekend hasn't made the headlines on today's RTE radio bulletins today. A few yellow cards in a McKenna cup game is obviously more newsworthy!!

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 06/01/2015 13:44:39    1680891

I see the RTE sport police are doing the beat again today.Call the cops!

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/01/2015 14:09:39    1680900

Complaining to RTE won't do anything, they'll put it in the bin. Would complaining to the Broadcasting Authority be any different. I read some of the cases they dealt with and some are ones where complaints allege bias. There were a lot of positive things they chose to ignore about the Armagh v Tyrone game.

I don't know anyone who has complained to the BAI and it mightn't be a great comparison but I was getting the runaround from a broadband supplier before, getting nowhere. A quick go on the Communication Regulator chat support who asked me for a case number. Back on e-mail to the broadband provider who changed their tune big time when Comreg was mentioned. As for the BAI, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8171 - 06/01/2015 14:18:35    1680908

If rte had no cameras or reporters at the game, then they are going to be going off second hand information.
Jack mc grath being cited for a stamp on another player is very relevant though as if he gets a ban then he could miss the start of the 6 nations which is very relevant to me. Not a red in a preseason compitition which will have no effect on the main competition. Surely you'd agree it affects the Irish national team ormond and thus means it should get top billing?????

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 06/01/2015 14:39:41    1680924

Mediaman you have 105 posts mainly criticising RTE why don't you actually do something about the situation?

None of them are directed at you. You have 106 posts telling him to contact RTE. He has not responded once. How long does it take you to learn? BTW - that is a rhetorical question.


Why don't you create a blog which will create much more awareness to people you think may be interested in your idea that RTE are neglecting the GAA.

No need. This thread has had 900 (approx.) replies and thousands of views. His point is being made to the people that are interested. This is an unofficial GAA website after all. Is that not obvious to you? BTW - another rhetorical question.

The competitions being plated are pre season competitions and have no relevance.

Do you ever look over what you write before hitting the 'add message' button? BTW - yet another rhetorical question.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 06/01/2015 14:50:46    1680929

Just another example of how bad the media are concerning GAA
this is todays Irish times piece on tonights o byrne cup

"Dean Rock, midfielder Emmett Ó Conghaile and Shane Carthy, who was released by St Vincent's for the encounter, all stood out for Dublin in their victory over Maynooth University at the weekend"

Now this is very poor journalism, as the shane carthy who played against maynooth is not a st vincents player
therefore they made up complete nonsense suggesting st vincents released him, which is lies.
the shane carthy who played last sunday is from naomh mearnog and was already on the dublin panel
which makes it even worse that they could not identify this or are they just not actualy sending anybody
to the match and taking a report from others.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/01/2015 17:35:49    1681291

06/01/2015 13:03:14 cuchulainn35
Lets be realistic RTE's sports coverage is poor at the best of times but there was a news-worthy story in Armagh on Sunday and the cameras missed out:-
1. mc Geeney's return
2. Start of the season
3. the attendance and the ticketing problems - negative, but news-worthy
4. Harte's win in possibly his last yr
But lets cover Oldham or a mickey mouse horse-race in Nass,
I've no problem with cricket or rugby or golf etc, but second tier English soccer!!!! Fair point on second tier English soccer.
06/01/2015 13:44:39 football first
Strange that the citing of a Leinster rugby player for an "alleged" stamp in the game v Ulster last weekend hasn't made the headlines on today's RTE radio bulletins today. A few yellow cards in a McKenna cup game is obviously more newsworthy!! Stamp will be covered. It was more than a few yellow cards....
06/01/2015 14:09:39 cuederocket
I see the RTE sport police are doing the beat again today.Call the cops! yeah. Why don't they actually do something other than posting here about the naughty RTE...
06/01/2015 14:18:35 GreenandRed
Complaining to RTE won't do anything, they'll put it in the bin. Would complaining to the Broadcasting Authority be any different. I read some of the cases they dealt with and some are ones where complaints allege bias. There were a lot of positive things they chose to ignore about the Armagh v Tyrone game.
I don't know anyone who has complained to the BAI and it mightn't be a great comparison but I was getting the runaround from a broadband supplier before, getting nowhere. A quick go on the Communication Regulator chat support who asked me for a case number. Back on e-mail to the broadband provider who changed their tune big time when Comreg was mentioned. As for the BAI, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Complaining to RTE and Broadcasting Authority will do a lot more than wasting effort posting nonsense about exactly what RTE are showing on a forum under a pseudonym
06/01/2015 14:39:41 Bain
If rte had no cameras or reporters at the game, then they are going to be going off second hand information.
Jack mc grath being cited for a stamp on another player is very relevant though as if he gets a ban then he could miss the start of the 6 nations which is very relevant to me. Not a red in a preseason compitition which will have no effect on the main competition. Surely you'd agree it affects the Irish national team ormond and thus means it should get top billing????? Yes Jack McGrath incident should get more coverage but that doesn't mean the incident in the pre season game shouldn't. There was more than a red card in the preseason Gaelic game. there was many incidents, loads and loads of yellow cards..

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/01/2015 17:58:23    1681300

Ormond doing the old pot kettle stuff again
On one hand you don't feel the o Byrne cup mackenna cup deserve match reports as they are only per season tournaments of little value and don't compare to the all action second string teams league that changes its name every year in rugby
Then you feel the incidents in omagh fully deserve to be reported on as they were more than just a couple of yellow cards in the Gaa preseason tournament's and of course ahead of the nasty incidents in the big rugby league

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/01/2015 18:20:17    1681306

07/01/2015 18:20:17 hill16no1man
Ormond doing the old pot kettle stuff again
On one hand you don't feel the o Byrne cup mackenna cup deserve match reports as they are only per season tournaments of little value and don't compare to the all action second string teams league that changes its name every year in rugby
Then you feel the incidents in omagh fully deserve to be reported on as they were more than just a couple of yellow cards in the Gaa preseason tournament's and of course ahead of the nasty incidents in the big rugby league No not at all
Total ignorance of rugby when you call pro12 2nd string teams league. Complete ignorance and as for attempt to dismiss the league by it changing sponsor... hahahaha.
That teams rotate within the competition that is their 2nd competition and played through the season. The OByrne Cup/McKenna Cup cannot be compared to them. Counties will not be shouting from the rooftops if all they win this year is a McKenna Cup or O Byrne Cup while Irish provinces will if they win a pro12 which is only 2nd in line to European cup while an OByrne Cup is 4th behind National League, Provincial title and all Ireland title.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/01/2015 18:45:06    1681312

NB. The inter-county football season began last Saturday with games in the McKenna and O'Byrne Cups. The football season has 3 tiers to it. Inter-county Tier 1 is the Championship (All-Ireland and Provincial competitions combined). ICT 2 is the National Leagues and ICT 3 is the four Subsidiary Competitions, McKenna Cup, O'Byrne Cup, McGrath Cup and Connacht League. The Subsidiary Competitions are an integral part of the football season indeed until recently they tended to be played in tandem with the National Leagues and on rare occasions even during the Championship. Where this 'pre season' notion come? Unless of course it's just another attempt to demean the value of the competitions involved as an excuse not to afford them proper coverage which I'm delighted to see Hoganstand (unlike RTE) is doing tonight with live score updates onthe O'Byrne Cup.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 07/01/2015 19:02:45    1681317

Im delighted hoganstand have live updates also mediaman,but mostly because ive a nice bet done.As i said somewhere else,if Dublin won the next 10 O Byrne cups,i wouldnt be doing cartwheels of joy.It fills the gap in January,gives new players a run out and gets the blood racing for more important matters like the League,and the main event itself.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/01/2015 19:13:13    1681321

07/01/2015 19:02:45
mediaman
NB. The inter-county football season began last Saturday with games in the McKenna and O'Byrne Cups. The football season has 3 tiers to it. Inter-county Tier 1 is the Championship (All-Ireland and Provincial competitions combined). ICT 2 is the National Leagues and ICT 3 is the four Subsidiary Competitions, McKenna Cup, O'Byrne Cup, McGrath Cup and Connacht League. The Subsidiary Competitions are an integral part of the football season indeed until recently they tended to be played in tandem with the National Leagues and on rare occasions even during the Championship. Where this 'pre season' notion come? Unless of course it's just another attempt to demean the value of the competitions involved as an excuse not to afford them proper coverage which I'm delighted to see Hoganstand (unlike RTE) is doing tonight with live score updates onthe O'Byrne Cup. mediaman these are pre season competitions. Stop trying to make them out to be much bigger than they are. The top teams often have few to none of the players who played championship games the previous summer.
The notion that they are pre season comes from that they are games with sides far from full strength and very much experimental and that the finals occasionally are held back until later in the year doesn't change the fact they are pre season competitions.
Hoganstand solely covers GAA unlike RTE which covers a myriad of sports and sporting events

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/01/2015 19:16:49    1681323

Ormond then if this is the case why do you feel the incidents in omagh deserve to be highlighted ahead of the nasty incidents in the rugby league?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/01/2015 19:19:19    1681324

Hill16. The match was in Armagh. If you visit the BBC NI Sport website you can see brief highlights. There was no real brawl. More a scrun I would say. Maybe that is why RTE felt they could cover it!

Armaghball (Armagh) - Posts: 96 - 07/01/2015 19:31:26    1681328

I found it very interesting that the report on stamping by a Leinster player was (a) a minor sports news item on the Six O clock news and (b) was not accompanied by any video of the incident. I the same incident happened at a GAA match it would feature and you can be sure rte would have a video of the incident and we would be treated to slow motion replays. Double standards.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 09/01/2015 14:15:36    1681778

The 7.35 sport news on Morning Ireland last Monday.

"and finally in darts, Phil Taylor won the World Professional Darts Championship last night"

The mind boggles.

CmonAymonow (Laois) - Posts: 160 - 09/01/2015 15:13:37    1681818