its merely pointing out constant examples of bias that occur almost daily...this bias is often denied...no harm in pointing out grievances as its a forum after all..once its factual

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 04/01/2015 16:59:24    1680385

I think most of us know of RTEs rugby bias fabio.I dont like it either.In fact ,the blatant elitism of rugby,growing up in Dublin,has left a sour taste in my mouth to this day.To be reminded of it on a daily basis doesnt help anything.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 04/01/2015 17:21:33    1680391

04/01/2015 15:49:40 sceptical
Over 8000 at tyrone armagh game. A so called meaningless game! Over 3000 at derry donegal. Only 7000 at munster connacht last week. It was deemed important enough for ramming down our throats by rte regardless of the fact that both sides left out international players reinforcing the fact that the pro 12 is a micky mouse competition not taken seriously enough to play full teams in. Lets see if rte devote same time to covering the games today. Pro12 isn't a mickey mouse competition. Munster and Connacht were playing a large amount of big games over Christmas period and have European games coming up. They were rotating their squads like any teams in a league do. That they didn't have every single top player involved doesn't mean the pro12 is mickey mouse
04/01/2015 16:07:58 cuederocket
Lads,why the daily comments about RTEs lack of GAA coverage?Some posters,ridiculously,even count the amount of rugby or GAA posts on its website each day.We all know RTE covers a lot of rugby,due to the powers that be in Montrose having a rugby bias.Hasnt it always been this way?It seems to really upset and annoy a lot of posters here.Although i would like more GAA coverage ,unfortunately i cannot see it changing anytime soon,but there are plenty other means of getting our daily GAA fix. Or maybe rugby is the premier professional team sport in Ireland and gets the coverage it does based on that.
04/01/2015 16:59:24 fabio8
its merely pointing out constant examples of bias that occur almost daily...this bias is often denied...no harm in pointing out grievances as its a forum after all..once its factual If there is such a bias surely a national state owned station shouldn't be doing that and people here should be contacting RTE about their coverage?
04/01/2015 17:21:33 cuederocket
I think most of us know of RTEs rugby bias fabio.I dont like it either.In fact ,the blatant elitism of rugby,growing up in Dublin,has left a sour taste in my mouth to this day.To be reminded of it on a daily basis doesnt help anything. If RTE was biased in favour of rugby then why has it cut the number of games it shows live? Why does it show much less rugby than it has in the past?
Rugby was quite elitist in parts of Dublin but not in most other places and if you are holding a bias against a sport over that then......

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 04/01/2015 17:51:06    1680410

again with the contacting rte garbage..this point has already been much covered..people have contacted rte over it and nothing has been done and nothing will be done in future

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 04/01/2015 18:02:06    1680415

Ormond,growing up in Palmerstown,west Dublin,rugby was not an option.It was rarely talked about in primary school,and the same in secondary in Clondalkin.To be honest i didnt even know where the closest rugby club to me was at the time in the county(not incl Leixlip which was prop closest but in Kildare).It was as if the game did not exist.That is until i used to sit down and enjoy the 5 Nations games every year.I began to take an interest and like the game.And then i used to get frustrated that whether i liked it or not,playing it was not an option.I would have loved to have given it a go.I was always a big man so i may have been suited to the hard,physical aspect of the game.Not been offered any oppurtunity of this always left a sour taste in my mouth.
However i believe the game has changed a lot since then.It is certainly becoming more main stream and accessible.Even Leinsters support base has widened to large parts of Dublin,which is good to see.Overall i think rugby,played at the highest level,is a fantastic game.Just wish i had the option of playing it in my youth.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 04/01/2015 18:57:08    1680432

04/01/2015 18:57:08 cuederocket
Ormond,growing up in Palmerstown,west Dublin,rugby was not an option.It was rarely talked about in primary school,and the same in secondary in Clondalkin.To be honest i didnt even know where the closest rugby club to me was at the time in the county(not incl Leixlip which was prop closest but in Kildare).It was as if the game did not exist.That is until i used to sit down and enjoy the 5 Nations games every year.I began to take an interest and like the game.And then i used to get frustrated that whether i liked it or not,playing it was not an option.I would have loved to have given it a go.I was always a big man so i may have been suited to the hard,physical aspect of the game.Not been offered any oppurtunity of this always left a sour taste in my mouth.
However i believe the game has changed a lot since then.It is certainly becoming more main stream and accessible.Even Leinsters support base has widened to large parts of Dublin,which is good to see.Overall i think rugby,played at the highest level,is a fantastic game.Just wish i had the option of playing it in my youth. Eh Guinness RFC etc would have been there and they played at many levels.... If you were living in that place would you not have been able to travel to other city clubs?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 04/01/2015 21:01:29    1680487

No GAA coverage on tonights Six .01 news, even though its the start of the season and some great crowds

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1691 - 04/01/2015 21:03:01    1680488

Ormond, a lot of Dubs would have that experience of rugby. I went to school which had good GAA and soccer and athletics teams - got to All Ireland in soccer and won Leinster in football and had friends who represented Ireland at track and field. Three fellas I went to school with played in All Ireland finals.

Our sports teacher - a Fermanagh man - decided we should try our hand at rugby, which we did. I loved it and we had some decent results against traditional schools so he entered us for the Leinster Junior Cup. They would not accept our application, on grounds that there were two competing schools close to us. That is as true as God. Real reason was that we were a working class vocational school.

I still love watching it and betting on it, but it is only in recent years that I have stopped shouting for whatever team Ireland happens to be playing. I've grown up and have height of respect for O'Driscoll and O'Connell and Sexton and O'Gara and the rest. I no longer associate them with the idiots for whom we were not good enough.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 04/01/2015 21:32:16    1680493

The fact is ormond,not one of my pals growing up in Palmerstown,ever got involved in rugby.It was,and is,a GAA and soccer area.I wasnt going to be criss crossing the city as a 10 year old,or 15 year old,getting 2 buses to south county Dublin,to play a game that i wasnt familiar with.Rugby was not on the agenda.And still isnt in large parts of Dublin.As for Guinness rugby club you mentioned,i never even heard of them.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 04/01/2015 21:36:18    1680495

04/01/2015 21:03:01
cuchulainn35
No GAA coverage on tonights Six .01 news, even though its the start of the season and some great crowdsDoes there have to be coverage of all those games?
04/01/2015 21:32:16 hurlingdub
Ormond, a lot of Dubs would have that experience of rugby. I went to school which had good GAA and soccer and athletics teams - got to All Ireland in soccer and won Leinster in football and had friends who represented Ireland at track and field. Three fellas I went to school with played in All Ireland finals.
Our sports teacher - a Fermanagh man - decided we should try our hand at rugby, which we did. I loved it and we had some decent results against traditional schools so he entered us for the Leinster Junior Cup. They would not accept our application, on grounds that there were two competing schools close to us. That is as true as God. Real reason was that we were a working class vocational school.
I still love watching it and betting on it, but it is only in recent years that I have stopped shouting for whatever team Ireland happens to be playing. I've grown up and have height of respect for O'Driscoll and O'Connell and Sexton and O'Gara and the rest. I no longer associate them with the idiots for whom we were not good enough Saying a lot of Dubs is hyperbole. What year(years) you talking about as its very different now. No real reason was nothing to do with being vocational school. They had competitions for those who were not playing the main schools in friendly circuit.
And pathetic of anyone from Ireland to be shouting for any opposition in a nationalistic game? Had you no pride in your country at the least?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 04/01/2015 21:48:48    1680496

Ormond, it was in late 1970s. There was no other competition in those days than the Junior and Senior schools cups. And we had it on good authority that the real reasons were 'sociological' :-) One of the rugby schools close to us which had objected probably because we beat them upsidedown in any sport in which we competed with them. They had ban on the "gah" in those days.

That school had actually made the national news (Irish Press) in 1977 when they only admitted one pupil from our primary school out of a hundred or so who had sat the entrance exam, for the princely sum of £5! Only successful entrant was son of guard who was thick as the wall. Among those who failed was a chap who went on to become a multi linguist and to teach at Sorbonne :-)

As for the nationalistic reasons for supporting the rugby team, I am under no more of an obligation to support them than many rugby supporting (and dareisayit 'anti-GAA') Dubs are to support MY teams - the real Boys in Blue :-)

Each to our own.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 05/01/2015 09:12:18    1680507

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As for the nationalistic reasons for supporting the rugby team, I am under no more of an obligation to support them than many rugby supporting (and dareisayit 'anti-GAA') Dubs are to support MY teams - the real Boys in Blue :-)

Each to our own.

Excellent post.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 05/01/2015 12:49:36    1680578

I must admit,Leinster rugby does very little for me,and ive found myself hoping the opposition would beat them on a few occassions.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 05/01/2015 14:04:16    1680628

haha some of ormonds comments are like the pot calling the kettle black
no nationalistic pride coming from the man
who belives english soccer news should be the main story on the rte news bulletin and by main i dont mean main sports news.
also the same man that belives players are right to belive winning with the lions is more imprtant than
winning six nations with ireland.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/01/2015 14:11:01    1680631

05/01/2015 09:12:18 hurlingdub
Ormond, it was in late 1970s. There was no other competition in those days than the Junior and Senior schools cups. And we had it on good authority that the real reasons were 'sociological' :-) One of the rugby schools close to us which had objected probably because we beat them upsidedown in any sport in which we competed with them. They had ban on the "gah" in those days.
That school had actually made the national news (Irish Press) in 1977 when they only admitted one pupil from our primary school out of a hundred or so who had sat the entrance exam, for the princely sum of £5! Only successful entrant was son of guard who was thick as the wall. Among those who failed was a chap who went on to become a multi linguist and to teach at Sorbonne :-)
As for the nationalistic reasons for supporting the rugby team, I am under no more of an obligation to support them than many rugby supporting (and dareisayit 'anti-GAA') Dubs are to support MY teams - the real Boys in Blue :-)
Each to our own. There was other competitions. Not many and very irregularly played
Possibly the reasons you state were true but that's no reason to ban the sport now. I know you are under no obligation to support the team but to actually support the opposition is pathetic In my opinion.
And don't troll about boys in blue
05/01/2015 14:04:16 cuederocket
I must admit,Leinster rugby does very little for me,and ive found myself hoping the opposition would beat them on a few occassions. I really find that sad. If you had Irish people cheering on England against Ireland in soccer etc people here would be going mad yet to do the same in other sports....
05/01/2015 14:11:01 hill16no1man
haha some of ormonds comments are like the pot calling the kettle black no nationalistic pride coming from the man who belives english soccer news should be the main story on the rte news bulletin and by main i dont mean main sports news. also the same man that belives players are right to belive winning with the lions is more imprtant than winning six nations with ireland. I never said I BELIEVED(sic) being part of a successful Lions tour was more important than winning a six nations with Ireland. I said many here don't have a clue of the prestige the Lions have and what players etc feel about the Lions.
English soccer news(we are talking about the Man Utd manager issue which did happen) should if big enough be main story on the news. It all depends on context as for the news and RTE felt it was right and I don't see why they were wrong to run the story where they did in the news

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/01/2015 18:29:14    1680741

Ormond,id say you would argue with yourself in an empty room.You seem to take a lot of things very seriously.Leinster rugby is not my thing.If i have supported various opposition teams to beat them at times,it may be sad to you,but no big deal to me.Granted it does seem a bit unusual,but thats how i feel on the matter.Im a proud Dub first and foremost.Proud Irishman also.Leinster rugby i couldnt care less really.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 05/01/2015 19:04:24    1680753

Ormo
I never said I BELIEVED(sic) being part of a....
New year is same as the old on here I see. Ormo if you are going to pompously correct spelling mistakes please do learn what (sic) means. To help you here is the definition "used in brackets after a copied or quoted word that appears odd or erroneous to show that the word is quoted exactly as it stands in the original". It sums up neatly your posting style on here - certain you are superior to others but badly misguided.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 05/01/2015 19:33:35    1680765

The RTE sports coverage yesterday was one of the lowest ever!!!
not one camera at ant GAA ground .... we had a great crowd in Armagh... but RTE couldn't care less

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1691 - 05/01/2015 20:51:03    1680783

Ormond, I never said I wanted to ban rugby! I like the game. Indeed, were it a choice between watching a match between two of the leading international, European or Aviva sides, and a regular season gaelic football league game (unless it was Dublin obviously) I would most likely pick the rugby. There, I've said it!

However, I do not have any emotional investment in any team unless I happen to have a bet on one of them.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 05/01/2015 21:03:42    1680788

It matters more when theres money on it.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 05/01/2015 21:10:13    1680793