Greenandred when do they give preference to the Gaa as you put it? In August and September the Gaa biggest period they still gave preferential treatment to the other two sports.
Sure the day before one of the all Ireland finals they never even mentioned the game on rte or tv3 news.
Our so call national media is a joke to even allow it be named national because it is anything but national sport.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/12/2014 09:03:37    1679657

That's a fair statement Hil16 and I agree with it . But it's not just RTE doing it, although you'd expect them to publicisd GAA more. But this time of year you can see why they publicise rugby and siccer more than GAA. I still don't understand how the broadcast and print media publicise sports. In my head, I've no facts at all, the marketing people from each sporting bodies give incentives to media to publicise their games. I think GAA marketing could improve, they could benefit from it and get more going to games.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8167 - 21/12/2014 16:37:56    1679683

8/12/2014 11:50:14 bennybunny
Allow me to answer that on behalf of the 'Rugby Police' (as Fabio term's it).
A nice rugby story about some player being given his debut etc is very important to everybody on this island because our teams play in those competitions. We are all fascinated by Connachts team selection.

Any negative rugby stories must be buried and hidden as rugby people have no interest in hearing or reading about it.

Let me add that your ignorance is laughable on rugby matters. Its hillarious etc etc Thought you were better than this Benny...
Majority of rugby supporters will care about and take plenty of interest in Connachts team and how it lines out
If negative rugby stories were buried and hidden then why are so many stories in the press so often...
18/12/2014 20:19:46 mediaman
There can be no better example of the how sections of the Irish media treat Rugby Union in a completely different way to other sports (but particularly football and hurling). The Rugby Union authorities are more interested in image than stamping out violence (sorry about the pun). This week one player was given a hefty fine and a suspended ban for making critical comments about his opponents and another Delon Armitage was banned for 12 weeks for directing bad language towards his opponents supporters. Compare this to what happened as a result of the brawl which marred the Leinster game. The three players involved in the unseemly melee or 'bit of a scrap' as Leinster Rugby described it have all been let off without bans. Matthews who received a yellow card on the night was completely exonerated today. In Rugby union if you say something wrong you get hammered but if you hammer someone you get off. And of course there's no outcry from the Irish media. Nothing new there but it bears repeating.Rugby is not more interested in image than anything else. Violence is not dismissed. Your bitterness against RTE and rugby is very sad

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/12/2014 17:47:26    1679688

20/12/2014 18:07:39 mediaman
6pm. Saturday. Hoganstand is currently carried 5 stories of significant interest to all football/hurling followers. Marc O'Se's decision to play on for another year. Shane Curran's move into club management. Martin McElkennon's decision not to join the Donegal backroom team. Paul Conroy being sidelined through injury and tomorrow's unseasonal Tipperary SFC Final. However, not one story has made it onto the RTE Sport website. There are in fact no football/hurling stories in the top 20 on the RTE site. Or the top 40. And there's just one in the top 60. They really don't understand what interests Gaelic games followers. Do they?Hoganstand is a GAA only site. Are some of them really nationwide news worthy. They do understand what interests gaelic games followers but its the middle of december in the GAA off season. Why should there be plenty of stories at this time of year

20/12/2014 19:16:39 Soma
In case you missed it mediaman, in a Pro12 game last night there was one of the most violent incidents I have seen on a sports field for quite a long while. A Treviso player was red carded for repeatedly punching a defenceless Edinburgh player on the back of the head as he lay on the ground, which was followed by a lengthy brawl involving a number of players with numerous punches to the head landed. I am sure you will get to read all about these disgraceful scenes on RTE Sport in the coming days, with numerous commentators offering views on appropriate punishments....Does that have a direct influence on Irish teams? Other issues involving other nations have an influence on Ireland but the Treviso players red card was not against an Irish side though was in a competition involving irish sides. It was a horrible incident and the player will get a significant ban.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/12/2014 17:54:09    1679689

20/12/2014 19:56:30 GreenandRed
The GAA season has finished, for many it effectively finished in late September right about the time the rugby season got going. The rugby is at full tilt for Super 12 and Champions Cup with the 6 Nations around the corner. The League of Ireland is in off season while The Premier League is busiest, game-wise around Christmas. Why should RTE give preference to sports in their off-season while potential listeners or viewers prefer to hear or read news about sports they can actually see or hear at this time of year? Because it's Radio Telefís Éireann should it still give preference to Irish sports even though they're not being played this time of year? fair points
21/12/2014 09:3:37 hill16no1man
Greenandred when do they give preference to the Gaa as you put it? In August and September the Gaa biggest period they still gave preferential treatment to the other two sports.
Sure the day before one of the all Ireland finals they never even mentioned the game on rte or tv3 news.
Our so call national media is a joke to even allow it be named national because it is anything but national sport.Where was the preferential treatment given to Rugby etc in August? What live rugby was shown in August? Our media is national how is what they cover not national sport?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/12/2014 18:01:16    1679690

Nice to see the Tipperary SFC Final receiving coverage on the RTE Sport website. Around 1,600 people were in attendance but of course the only crowd shot used by RTE pokes fun at the organisation of the match. Have a look. You'll see what I mean. The match merits only 150 words while there's a 1,500 word article on the AIL league matches even though it's doubtful that the total AIL attendance was equal to the Tipperary SFC Final on its own.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 21/12/2014 18:28:57    1679695

How many AIL games have you been at Mediaman?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8167 - 21/12/2014 18:37:32    1679696

what is your point greenandred?..iv attended a few myself...poorly attended

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 21/12/2014 19:02:04    1679698

21/12/2014 18:28:57 mediaman
Nice to see the Tipperary SFC Final receiving coverage on the RTE Sport website. Around 1,600 people were in attendance but of course the only crowd shot used by RTE pokes fun at the organisation of the match. Have a look. You'll see what I mean. The match merits only 150 words while there's a 1,500 word article on the AIL league matches even though it's doubtful that the total AIL attendance was equal to the Tipperary SFC Final on its ownSo maybe your reactions to RTE are simply over reactions and far from the truth.
As GreenandRed says have you been to many AIL games? RTE is right to knock Tipperary GAA for having one of their 2 premier club games on this close to December, months after county side were out of championship and it was 150 words on 1 match compared to 1500 on a large number of games...

21/12/2014 18:37:32 GreenandRed
How many AIL games have you been at Mediaman? I dont think any by the looks of things...

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/12/2014 19:02:29    1679699

A recent Irish Rugby Union site Knock-On recently posed the question 'Why are so many AIL matches played out in front of less than 50 spectators'. And that's straight from the horse's mouth. Indeed in my experience it might be more accurate to say less than 40. Indeed I attended a match in UCD once when there were more subs than spectators.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 21/12/2014 19:15:22    1679702

The crowds have gone ne down so. Haven't been at an AIL game for about 15 years. Provincial setup was different then, you'd see a few internationals playing AIL then.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8167 - 21/12/2014 19:45:02    1679704

Ormond it is rubbish to say this is the gaa off season, we have seen provincial finals and county finals played this month alone, plenty of stories there. Rugby gets 12 months coverage in august they are previewing the season.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 21/12/2014 20:20:54    1679709

Not a mention of the Tipp SFC final on the 9 o'clock news. Not a dickie bird. Wouldn't have taken 10 seconds to dispense with it.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1208 - 21/12/2014 21:20:37    1679714

21/12/2014 19:15:22 mediaman
A recent Irish Rugby Union site Knock-On recently posed the question 'Why are so many AIL matches played out in front of less than 50 spectators'. And that's straight from the horse's mouth. Indeed in my experience it might be more accurate to say less than 40. Indeed I attended a match in UCD once when there were more subs than spectators.There isnt many and most of those that do have so few involve either university clubs or where there was huge distances to travel... like Sligo to Cork etc
Rob Murphy who runs that site also praises the crowds that attend AIL regularly. I know rob having written for his website which covers grassroots nationally in a manner the provincial and branch websites cannot
21/12/2014 19:45:02 GreenandRed
The crowds have gone ne down so. Haven't been at an AIL game for about 15 years. Provincial setup was different then, you'd see a few internationals playing AIL then.Of course theyve gone down. 15 years ago provinces played a max of 10 or so games a season compared to now
21/12/2014 20:20:54 ROS1
Ormond it is rubbish to say this is the gaa off season, we have seen provincial finals and county finals played this month alone, plenty of stories there. Rugby gets 12 months coverage in august they are previewing the season.No it isnt. The GAA has an off season and the overwhelming majority are not playing or training now
Rugby doesnt get 12 months coverage. very little coverage in July bar the odd year or two

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/12/2014 21:30:47    1679718

Interesting both the All Ireland camogie and ladies football teams nominated for team of the year on RTE sport awards but no room for the ladies rugby team... Bias for rugby clear there....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/12/2014 21:37:17    1679719

Ormond, on what basis would the Irish women's rugby team be nominated? For underachieving in their main competition?? Cork women's footballers retained their all-Ireland title, winning their ninth title in 10 years- a fabulous achievement.

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 21/12/2014 21:51:49    1679722

GreenandRed the AIL and club rugby in Ireland has changed completely over the last decade. Attendances at games in the top division are pathetic and even something like the Connacht Senior Cup final, which used to attract reasonable crowds, doesn't manage to attract an attendance of 3 figures now. If you just watch RTE you would believe rugby is huge in Ireland, go out in the playing fields and it is a completely different story. It makes RTE's approach to sport all the more bizarre.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 21/12/2014 22:01:29    1679726

21/12/2014 21:37:17
ormondbannerman
Interesting both the All Ireland camogie and ladies football teams nominated for team of the year on RTE sport awards but no room for the ladies rugby team... Bias for rugby clear there....
21/12/2014 21:51:49
football first
Ormond, on what basis would the Irish women's rugby team be nominated? For underachieving in their main competition?? Cork women's footballers retained their all-Ireland title, winning their ninth title in 10 years- a fabulous achievement.




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GreenandRed the AIL and club rugby in Ireland has changed completely over the last decade. Attendances at games in the top division are pathetic and even something like the Connacht Senior Cup final, which used to attract reasonable crowds, doesn't manage to attract an attendance of 3 figures now. If you just watch RTE you would believe rugby is huge in Ireland, go out in the playing fields and it is a completely different story. It makes RTE's approach to sport all the more bizarre.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 22/12/2014 13:45:55    1679775

21/12/2014 21:51:49 football first
Ormond, on what basis would the Irish women's rugby team be nominated? For underachieving in their main competition?? Cork women's footballers retained their all-Ireland title, winning their ninth title in 10 years- a fabulous achievement.


How did the Irish women's team under acheive in the world cup or 6 Nations? They got to a first ever world cup semi final which is far from underachieving and who has dismissed the Cork Women's footballers?

21/12/2014 22:01:29 Soma
GreenandRed the AIL and club rugby in Ireland has changed completely over the last decade. Attendances at games in the top division are pathetic and even something like the Connacht Senior Cup final, which used to attract reasonable crowds, doesn't manage to attract an attendance of 3 figures now. If you just watch RTE you would believe rugby is huge in Ireland, go out in the playing fields and it is a completely different story. It makes RTE's approach to sport all the more bizarre.

Attendances are not pathetic in the main. Rugby is very big in Ireland. Playing numbers are up across most of the country.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 22/12/2014 13:50:41    1679777

Ormo
Attendances are not pathetic in the main
To be fair I took that line about attendances being pathetic straight from the Knock-On website Mediaman mentioned, a site I'd never read before because like the rest of the country I no longer have any interest in local rugby other than my own former club. However if they are one of the main websites dedicated to club rugby and describe 1a attendances as pathetic then I will believe them. I remember going to Connacht Senior cup finals a decade ago and a few hundred people being in attendance,I can't believe that now less than 100 people go. Despite rugby being on a high and massive media coverage of the sport it appears Irish people couldn't give a damn about the sport outside the professional game. It's no wonder many rugby folk seem to have a chip on their shoulder about the success and growth of the GAA.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 22/12/2014 15:00:36    1679789