16/07/2014 11:13:38
hurlingdub
County: Dublin
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Dublin have only beaten Tipp in Tipp once in my life time and that was in 1989 in Nenagh. So we can't be very optimistic! Having said that this is the game that will define them. I love going to Thurles for big match days so no complaints here. Should be great atmosphere especially if the Wexicans are playing Limerick as Wex will bring huge crowd. And Doyler will stay back to shout for the Dubs :-)




Like the 1,500 they took to Ennis if that. Give me a break. They will take 5-6k no more. Limerick and Tipp will have the dominant support that day my good man. Be lucky if the Dubs get a few thousand also.

Cork, Limerick and Tipp in order of hurling support, after that it is paltry for most counties.

Waterford gone from good crowds to a few thousand turning up.

Championship is where it matters and most counties do not travel.

Hoover78 (Limerick) - Posts: 865 - 16/07/2014 14:16:04    1620231

Crazy that Galway can never get a home game in the hurling under the current arrangement

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1909 - 16/07/2014 14:43:55    1620247

Flanders
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http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=220562

Assuming my comment is published, I think its very unfair that Tipp hurlers are now about to play their third home match in championship, out of four games. Their only away match was against Offaly last weekend, when their footballers were also scheduled, funnily enough.

How often have other dual counties had footballers away to Cork on a Saturday and hurlers away to Wexford the next day. The GAA needs to take a close look at fixture making and fixture rigging, as no team should have this advantage. As I said in comment, they are basically becoming like Dublin footballers!

As for this crap about "home or hurling" is total nonsense. Any home team supporters will outnumber travelling by at least 3 to 1. As to how Tipp can be allowed this in 3/4 of their matches baffles me.

Nonsense post. Not a word of complaint in Tipp last year when the hurlers played Limerick in the Gaelic Grounds followed by Killkenny in Nowlan Park. The footballers have had 1 match in Thurles and 3 on the road this year and played both matches away last year. I don't see the issue here.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 16/07/2014 14:59:45    1620254

Just a note, i have huge respect for Wexford fans who are historically one of the better supported teams.

Hoover78 (Limerick) - Posts: 865 - 16/07/2014 15:09:45    1620258

Maybe Flanders when Galway enter into home & away agreements in Leinster you will start to get the benefit.

Salthill is a lovely pitch for hurling and pity it only gets used for the odd league and qualifier game.

Some atmosphere there when its at capacity. Was at Tipp v Galway in 2003 and it was electric.

I agree it will be our 3rd game there but it has not made a difference in my view.

Limerick outplayed us there

Galway outplayed us for 50 mins or so.

Dublin im sure will hold no fear either.

I would love for the game to be in Croker v Dublin. We didnt play there last year and still might not make it this year.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 16/07/2014 15:40:26    1620287

In fairness I personally see it as an advantage to play in Semple and getting Galway there was massive in Tipp's season.

Does it makes Dublin task more difficult? Of course it does.

It could be the reason Brendan walks up the steps of the Hogan in September!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 16/07/2014 17:23:26    1620340

In fairness now Hoover78, its a 3 hour drive from Wexford to Clare and nobody (bar a few of us cuter ones) thought we had any chance of coming out of there with a win. I remember Limerick played Wexford a few years ago in a qualifier in Wexford Park and there was merely a handful of Limerick supporters there....every county has its die-hards and every county has those who turn up at a sign of success...be it Wexford/Limerick/Clare/Kilkenny.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 16/07/2014 18:28:10    1620365

Well I see at least some people agree with me!

Naysayer's analogy with Celtic beating Man U, Juve, Barca, AC Milan etc is perfect. (Please no nonsense comments about foreign sports!). Celtic are a fairly average team but yet can beat much bigger teams at home, mainly due to fans, intimidating atmosphere etc. - basically the benefits that comes with playing at home in a high pressure match.

However, here we have Tipp, who are one of the biggest hurling teams in the country - they don't need this advantage. It's unfair.

We have been listening to the "Dubs out of Croker" argument for years, I just think Tipp are the next best beneficiaries of this system. I haven't seen anyone raising it as an anomaly before, that's all.

Flanders (Galway) - Posts: 604 - 16/07/2014 20:27:15    1620394

My issue is not with Tipp having home advantage here.Nor do i think Tipp have more home games than other counties.My point is that home advantage,for any team,is in itself an advantage.How some posters cannot see this is baffling.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 16/07/2014 21:24:23    1620430

Pinkie, I was at that match in Wexford, the day of the torrential rain, we got absolutely soaked through and through. On the way back to the bus Lidl were doing a "Special" in some mens clothing so we bought trousers, socks and Polo shirts and threw the wet clothes into the bus, had a great night after that. Some lads bought the wrong size clothes but there were plenty of takers for them at 5 & 10 EURO each.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 17/07/2014 09:36:31    1620484

No one complained last year when Kerry had 3 games of football in Killarney.

They played Tipp , Waterford and Cork there.

Cork have had 2 football games at home this year.

Limerick have had 3 football games at home this year.

Longford have played 2 games at home this year

Sligo have played 2 games at home this year

Dublin will have played 3 in croker come Sunday and another 3-4 pending the results by September. A different matter so not discussing.

Tyrone have played at home twice this year.

Monaghan have played at home 3 times so far and will be 4 by Sunday.

Carlow have played at home 3 times this year in football

Clare footballers have played twice at home this year and will play a 3rd on Sunday.

Wicklow footballers have had 3 games at home this year.

Laois footballers 2 games at home this year.

Roscommon have played 2 games at home this year and a 3rd on Sunday.

And a lot of counties have not even played one championship game at home this year.

So the one year Tipp get the rub of the green some people are up in arms over it.

So what should counties do have a pitch just so other counties can use it as a neutral venue ? Or as someone mentioned Tipp are a stronger hurling county so they shouldnt have home advantage. Based on Championship draws the weaker team should always have home advantage then ?

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 17/07/2014 12:59:40    1620587

It's not just about home advantage. It's also about bringing some money into other counties by having games elsewhere. I can recognise that a Leinster Semi double header in Croker Makes sense. I cannot see the use in having any of the quarter finals or earlier games in Croker or Thurles. For any single game they wouldn't generally get more than 16k people. There are plenty of stadiums that could hold crowds like this.

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 17/07/2014 13:06:04    1620595

One year later and same old story. ...http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/tipperary-have-home-advantage-for-munster-showdown-with-waterford-1.2259818

Galway can't buy a home game but Tipp even get home provincial deciders. Amazing GAA bias as usual.

Flanders (Galway) - Posts: 604 - 29/06/2015 16:42:05    1744863

Where should it have been played then? Waterford don't have a ground capable of staging a Munster final. Pairc Ui Chaoimh is unavailable due to redevelopment. Limerick was an option, but Thurles is closer for most Waterford people, and I would think Waterford are way more familiar with Thurles than Limerick. And I'd have had no problem with Limerick, its a great ground, but Thurles is the main stadium in Munster, for better or worse. A Munster final being played in Thurles is hardly an amazing conspiracy.

That aside, it is ridiculous that Galway can't get a home game for their Leinster championship matches, that needs to change.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 29/06/2015 16:54:01    1744876

Can't understand why Waterford are being so a accommodating about it. Surely should be in Gaelic Grounds. They have almost same capacity.

Flanders (Galway) - Posts: 604 - 29/06/2015 16:55:54    1744878

Marlon_JD
County: Tipperary
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Where should it have been played then? Waterford don't have a ground capable of staging a Munster final. Pairc Ui Chaoimh is unavailable due to redevelopment. Limerick was an option, but Thurles is closer for most Waterford people, and I would think Waterford are way more familiar with Thurles than Limerick. And I'd have had no problem with Limerick, its a great ground, but Thurles is the main stadium in Munster, for better or worse. A Munster final being played in Thurles is hardly an amazing conspiracy.

That aside, it is ridiculous that Galway can't get a home game for their Leinster championship matches, that needs to change.


Killarney maybe?

SeppBlatter (Dublin) - Posts: 187 - 29/06/2015 16:59:53    1744885

Waterford have given Tipp the initiative by agreeing to play in Tipps back yard.I understand Waterford have a lot of happy memories playing in Thurles,but if i had the choice as Waterford man,id have opted for Limerick.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 29/06/2015 17:14:28    1744912

16/07/2014 09:25:56
hurlingdub
County: Dublin
Posts: 6978

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What's this "Dublin region" Legend?

Pay no attention to it ,he's a bit of an eejit.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2313 - 29/06/2015 17:23:28    1744928

I think Waterford have been extremely clever and I'd be surprised if this was not Derek McGrath's decision.

Win there and it gives him and his players a massive bounce going into the all Ireland semi final. Beating Tipp in Thurles - it too us 40+ years to do it. Lose and everyone can say 'ah sure Tipp had home advantage'. If he can gather his players after a potential defeat, still there is a way Waterford could win the All-Ireland.

Clever Deise methinks.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6544 - 29/06/2015 17:33:07    1744939

The all Ireland quarters should be in Limerick every second year instead of always in tipperary .

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 29/06/2015 18:36:25    1744983