hill16,

But didn't the Dublin City Council give the go ahead on the 5 concerts earlier?

Itsme (Louth) - Posts: 402 - 08/07/2014 17:26:10    1615927

muckla
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The residents have messed up big time here. All the jobs and money that this and events like it that croke park have facilited and this is how the residents repay them.

I hope there is never another concert in Croke park and that they stop employing local people as they must be the most ungrateful people in the country.

are you for real pal?
croke park has caused nothing but problems for the residents
and the people that run croke park didnt care less about the local community centre over the last couple of years
when they were at logger heads. most people looking in from the outside dont understand that the residents and croke park hav had bad blood over several things and the guys running croke park arent from dublin so its nothing to them at the end of a working day
they get back in their cars and drive home to their own county.
croke park agreed 3 extra events a year
the residents were actualy letting them have away with having 4 events this year
as the one direction had three nights and the american football game aswell
so to go and then throw 5 concerts five nights running was basically slapping them in the face.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 08/07/2014 17:29:40    1615931

Itsme
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hill16,

But didn't the Dublin City Council give the go ahead on the 5 concerts earlier?

no thats the thing they didnt even file for a licence when selling the tickets
they did that after they sold them all

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 08/07/2014 17:30:37    1615933

Look at the papers, the whole thing was going fine until some of the residents kicked up about it.

Now Im sorry for tarring all the residents but I think whoever was behind the few who are taking this to the high court should hang there head in shame.

Those few residents have cost this country a lot more than the money from concert, The bad publicity out of this has wiped away all the brand building that events like the 2013 gathering and the Queens visit had achieved.

70k people were coming from overseas, now you have often heard the saying that if you do something good a person will tell 1 person but if you do something bad they will tell everyone so this fiasco will spread like wild fire across the world.

To be honest there is a time when democracy should be put to one side and common sense prevail especialy with the country on its knees and especially that area of Dublin which is disadvantaged to say the least.

I hope the minority of residents are now happy. RANT over

muckla (UK) - Posts: 370 - 08/07/2014 17:34:34    1615937

arock
Thats a very unfair comment, the only dishonesty in all of this has been displayed by the GAA. They gave their word and then broke it. Sympathy for people who have been left out of pocket, but there is but one dishonest party here.

Sorry, how can that be the only dishonesty, when there is clear evidence of fraud in the complaints issued? Come off it man.



hill16no1man
Well obviously he wasn't just trying to bully people, because he stood by what he said. Obviously it wasn't just a ploy to get his way and he genuinely meant it, thus him giving up a large fortune to stick to his word. Your claim has no basis in reality

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 08/07/2014 17:37:25    1615940

What about the poor hawkers that have thousands of stetson hats on their hands now?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 08/07/2014 17:38:48    1615942

fact........ some of the people who objected are not even resident its said one lives 2//3 miles away

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2976 - 08/07/2014 17:44:30    1615951

muckla

your first line says it all man
your reading the papers and taking everything they say as truth
come on papers dont refuse ink.
no they shouldnt hang their heads at all
and your main problem here is MONEY being lost for the country
money should not come into this over rules and doing the right thing its great to see people been put before money.
2013 gathering was money making gimic that was revealed in the press as just that
the queen of britain visit cost the country millions and the attitude and timing was a disgrace
when she was up the road at the garden of remberance the same day as the anniversary of the dublin monaghan bombings
and our government showed no respect for the familys and friends who were gathered on talbot street a mile down the road.
finally you talk of that are being disadvantaged , do you really think the money made by buisnesses and governement
would find its way to those living in that area you must be on cloud nine man,look at the money croke park rakes in since it was revamped sure if it made its way to them people they wouldnt be disadvantaged at this stage now would they.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 08/07/2014 17:45:35    1615953

Lets be clear,this is as a result of a tiny minority of residents. The overwhelming majority supported all 5 concerts and support Croke Park in the area (in fact its been there before the residents have). These 300 odd (apparently some of the signatures in the anti concert petition were forged) anti-GAA activists have cost the country and Dublin city in particular millions.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 08/07/2014 17:46:29    1615954

the master

come off it he got his hand called and he lost
simple as that
he held out hope he would bully he didnt get his way
and he obviously aint short of money so was to stubborn to go back on it

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 08/07/2014 17:47:07    1615955

DON'T BLAME THE RESIDENTS!

I'm delighted and I support the residents cause all the way. The GAA HQ were too high and mighty and thought they could trampled over these residents. The GAA has a lot more to answer for than the residents as it was the Association that broke promises and allowed the promoter to proceed without due diligence. The city council had to follow the rules and the one organisation that has done so much in other ways for the country, let down some 400,000 fans never mind the huge economic bonus to business in the Dublin area. It's a total shambles!!!

TurnipHead. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 253 - 08/07/2014 17:49:43    1615958

its not the rest of the country that lives beside the stadium!
its not the rest of the country had the major trouble with croke park over the community centre
the problem is the guys rnning croke park dont care about the people around it as they can go back to cavan and monaghan and the likes after a days work, there was already an agreement in place that 3 non gaa events ayear were to only take place

And it isn't the rest of the country who get free tickets to every gig and match in the ground and €500,000 for their community. The fact is they could have gotten it in writing that it wouldn't happen in future and let it go ahead - i.e. a reasonable thing to do.


so the residents are at no fault here

Listen, yes they are because they were unreasonable. They are not solely responsible, but they have a share in the blame. And if you consider the apparent fraud going on in the complaints process then not only are they to blame, but they broke the law - assuming that is fully proven of course.


the fact that 3 one direction gigs and an american football match had already been announced ment they were allowing
four events to go ahead as it was. now croke park pushed them too far by throwing five more events at them
come on if you cant see where they were annoyed and let down over theres something wrong here.
why does the rest of the country suffer anyway? they get their money back for the tickets as it will be announced of how to do this tomorrow

I can understand that they were annoyed and let down, that is a given. But to the point of costing the country millions and tarnishing the reputation of not only the country, but the biggest and best venue in the country? Was going to visit a relation for 2 nights while the concert went ahead really that much of an issue for them? I don't think so.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 08/07/2014 17:50:14    1615959

Should have gone to Markievicz Park, it would be nice to see a crowd in it.

allSOran (Sligo) - Posts: 690 - 08/07/2014 17:54:14    1615963

I am devastated by this news.....the wife and sisters in law etc were all due to go on the sunday night and I was to receive a night out with the lads en lieu of that which will now not happen............another disaster for the local economy

frankbhoy77 (Antrim) - Posts: 1300 - 08/07/2014 18:04:52    1615969

I am devastated by this news.....the wife and sisters in law etc were all due to go on the sunday night and I was to receive a night out with the lads en lieu of that which will now not happen............another disaster for the local economy

frankbhoy77 (Antrim) - Posts: 1300 - 08/07/2014 18:04:52    1615970

TurnipHead.

DON'T BLAME THE RESIDENTS!

I would be a lot more sympathetic to the residents if we knew exactly what how many of the residents in the surrounding areas were for and against the concerts, if the majority agreed that it was a huge imposition and opposed it then fine but we don't know the exact numbers.

Anyway, the Gaa and Aiken promotions did play a big part in this mess aswell by allowing 5 night to go ahead, I think 3 would have been reasonable but there you go.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 08/07/2014 18:04:56    1615971

The GAA in their Croke Park ivory tower are to blame for the debacle. Just as they are from alienating the GAA at grass roots level.They're acting more and more like an intransgient Government department rather than the head of an amateur sports organisation. Their overarching commercial ethos is underming the GAA as a whole.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3028 - 08/07/2014 18:04:59    1615972

TurnipHead.
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DON'T BLAME THE RESIDENTS!

I'm delighted and I support the residents cause all the way.

But the vast majority of residents support the GAA and all 5 concerts going ahead, I think you're perhaps a bit mixed up, what you meant to say was you are delighted as you support a tiny minority of anti-GAA residents.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 08/07/2014 18:08:32    1615974

Absolute joke of a country and backward city. Sums up everything wrong with this backward country, embarassing

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 08/07/2014 18:10:59    1615976

The people I feel sorry for right now are those who have tickets for the event.

The GAA have a lot to answer for by going ahead and organizing the concerts when an agreement was in place regarding how many concerts could be held.

The residents while correct by this agreement want to be sure that this is what they really want as if I was a promoter this would be my last dealing with the GAA and Croke park.

It is often the case that the noisy minority get such agreements in place in the first place - whether it is the minority in this case I do not know; whether protestation was mainly due to genuine concerns or whether they were angling to see what they could get again I do not know but regardless in this instance the GAA broke the agreement.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/07/2014 18:11:52    1615978