Lads

Keep it simple

5 concerts in a row is over the top

There was an agreement in place that was broken

The GAA knew this and still went ahead without contacting various resident groups

This is on the back of a very hostile relationship that already existed with some residents

The correct decision was made to award 3 concerts

The opportunity to play in front of 3 sell out audiences was dismissed by Brooks

Garth Brooks rather questionably demands 5 concerts (More than likely to make up for massive staging costs and keep the show in profit)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 10/07/2014 13:34:58    1616805

updwell
Hillman have you something against line dancing or did you not get a ticket, do the calculations if all 5 go ahead and each person spends on average 100 euro that's 40 million at least but like you said the Yanks coming in and the European fans will probably bring their own sandwiches with them......good point
10/07/2014 11:34:07 hill16no1man
how can you possibly know somebody will spend 100 euro each in the croke park area?
most people will bring their own alcohol with them
bring their own food in the backpack too
if the country has 100 each to spend on a day out at concerts we wouldnt be in an economy problem as it is Simple use of maths and economics helps bring it to be known that people will spend circa 100 euro on day of concerts. Most people will not be bringing their own food and booze with them.

10/07/2014 12:55:22 Dubfan Abroad
Hmmm, Been thinking a bit about this a bit. I have not read every post on this thread so it may have come up already, but what is the stance of the residents regarding replays of games?? I mean, if we had a repeat of the Dublin v Meath matches where it took 4 games to find a winner? And lets say it happened in hurling too, in the same year? Would the injunctions be flying then?
Would the games be cancelled? Would Garth intervene or maybe president Obama would step in to talk to the residents?
Just sayin like!!!Matches are the primary use of the stadium and completely different to concerts.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/07/2014 13:56:44    1616817

I have been going to Croker for years, and in all my time attending games and concerts I have never seen anyone urinating in the gardens of Ballybough. Has anyone else ever actually witnessed this taking place?

bryanadams (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 10/07/2014 14:00:19    1616819

Dubfan, the GAA don't need a licence to have matches, unlike the promoters who need a licence to hold concerts in Croker. So if there's replays the residents have to put up with it. But they probably get free tickets too ?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7984 - 10/07/2014 14:11:27    1616823

most people will bring their own alcohol with them
bring their own food in the backpack too

Good insight in to the life of a Dublin fan though Hill.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 10/07/2014 14:13:13    1616824

Still can't believe some of the nonsense written up here on this. Same usual posters who would argue against every Dublin poster making comments about the residents, people they have never met, people with shoes they have never walked in.

If one resident chooses to appeal the concerts, it is well within their rights. They live in the area and there has been an agreement for three concerts a year. The GAA chose to neglect dialogue with the residents and tried push ahead with extra concerts knowing that some residents were against this. The residents objected to this and appealed to the necessary bodies. The residents have been portrayed as greedy, self centred and egotistical. It is disgraceful they have been demonised in this way.

All talk of lost money, reputation worldwide etc has been exaggerated beyond belief.

Snuffy is right about this, economics shouldn't determine whether an event goes ahead. Citizens have rights, and in a democracy they can challenge decisions and let their voice be heard.

This is something most posters who are saying "screw the residents" forget.

The GAA saw money, Aiken saw money and Garth saw dollar signs! The GAA failed to consult the residents, and now they have egg on their face.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 10/07/2014 14:19:26    1616827

JayP
County: Dublin
Posts: 840

1616827 Still can't believe some of the nonsense written up here on this. Same usual posters who would argue against every Dublin poster making comments about the residents, people they have never met, people with shoes they have never walked in.

If one resident chooses to appeal the concerts, it is well within their rights. They live in the area and there has been an agreement for three concerts a year. The GAA chose to neglect dialogue with the residents and tried push ahead with extra concerts knowing that some residents were against this. The residents objected to this and appealed to the necessary bodies. The residents have been portrayed as greedy, self centred and egotistical. It is disgraceful they have been demonised in this way.

All talk of lost money, reputation worldwide etc has been exaggerated beyond belief.

Snuffy is right about this, economics shouldn't determine whether an event goes ahead. Citizens have rights, and in a democracy they can challenge decisions and let their voice be heard.

This is something most posters who are saying "screw the residents" forget.

The GAA saw money, Aiken saw money and Garth saw dollar signs! The GAA failed to consult the residents, and now they have egg on their face.

Very well said.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 10/07/2014 14:34:06    1616843

'Justice is blind'...hence the blindfold over her eyes! (Big business or weight of numbers does not hold more power over any single individual in her eyes)!
'Scales of Justice'...she holds a scales in balance to show that all are equal before the law and that she is 'fair and reasonable' to all!
'Sword in Hand'...she will defend the rights of 'ALL' (Big business, residents committees or one single INDIVIDUAL)!

Ah if only it were this simple. As updwell has already pointed out we have murders, rapists, dodgy politicians and corrupt bankers laughing at Irish law every day of the week.

Also Snuf I think the fact that you have to keep telling us how smart you are suggests that you may be confusing ego and intellect.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 10/07/2014 14:50:06    1616863

Just seen a video of "injunction man" on independent.ie, everything I though about this whole fiasco is confirmed in two little minutes of tape, absolutely farcical.......

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3748 - 10/07/2014 15:32:41    1616892

Injunction man.....more like dysfunction man!!

Kildare30 (Kildare) - Posts: 603 - 10/07/2014 15:38:39    1616897

In the interest of all the Croke Park communities we are prepared to consider a new direction with a view to facilitating the holding of the Garth Brooks concerts.

I wonder why they've changed their minds......must be out of the kindness of their hearts

NavyNBlue (Dublin) - Posts: 1357 - 10/07/2014 15:54:27    1616905

God could you imagine if those residents lived up here and had to put up with any of the 6,000 odd marches passing through their area or near their houses whether or not they wanted them to, and all the associated disruption every marching season. They don't know how easy they have it having to put up with Garth for 5 nights.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 10/07/2014 16:57:16    1616946

So what's the current status? On or off?

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 10/07/2014 17:24:13    1616959

Just listening to the Garth press conference. He has a high opinion of himself. Telling us to change our laws. Have stayed away from commenting but my god he thinks hes a God

donegaldouble (Donegal) - Posts: 318 - 10/07/2014 17:29:17    1616961

Byranadams

Yep unfortunately. If you're ever round Croker early take a stroll down to Mountjoy Sq as the buses arrive from the country for big game full of people who have been drinking all the way up. Not a pretty sight!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13797 - 10/07/2014 17:30:13    1616963

He's just said he still wants to play but its still 5 shows or no show. He also said that whatever sadness the Irish people are feeling, its only one billionth what he's feeling. He's feeling like the biggest loser out of all this!! Unbelievable stuff!!

donegaldouble (Donegal) - Posts: 318 - 10/07/2014 17:34:28    1616966

MesAmis
County: Dublin
Posts: 7531

1616963
Byranadams

Yep unfortunately. If you're ever round Croker early take a stroll down to Mountjoy Sq as the buses arrive from the country for big game full of people who have been drinking all the way up. Not a pretty sight!

Yes and if you ever walk through Ballybough, down Clonliffe Road or through Fairview you will see plenty of Dubs relieving themselves having not bothered to go in the pub they just left from the night before, not a pretty sight either, don't tar the country folk with that allegation

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3748 - 10/07/2014 17:38:12    1616972

Aww poor lad - would someone please give him a hug.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 10/07/2014 17:38:56    1616973

MesAmis
County: Dublin
Posts: 7531

1616963
Byranadams

Yep unfortunately. If you're ever round Croker early take a stroll down to Mountjoy Sq as the buses arrive from the country for big game full of people who have been drinking all the way up. Not a pretty sight!

Yes and if you ever walk through Ballybough, down Clonliffe Road or through Fairview you will see plenty of Dubs relieving themselves having not bothered to go in the pub they just left from the night before, not a pretty sight either, don't tar the country folk with that allegation

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3748 - 10/07/2014 17:47:59    1616984

Well... It seems Our Glorious Leader was on the case a day and managed to unravel the whole mess. All hail Enda!

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 10/07/2014 17:53:35    1616987