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The Garth Brooks Fiasco

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Anyone who tries to say that Ireland is an international laughing stock over this is one of these loud mouth, over-bearing, say anything outrageous for a bit of attention type of people whom people baulk at when they speak in public and disassociate themselves from!

If this has made any story internationally (which Im sure people might post links to show me it has) then it is a mere footnote in another countries "....and finally" section of the news o be forgotten about once it is told and not major headlines like as if it was 9/11 or something!!!

Some silly people even suggested it could cost us the rugby world cup joint bid!!.....Cop on you trivial people!!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 09/07/2014 19:26:57    1616537

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I disagree with that view on the GAA RoverTin. Realistically there are probably only 2 venues in Ireland capable of hosting an event like this, Croke Park and Slane Castle. If Croke Park said no then Brooks may well have gone to Slane, and the Viscount or 8th Marquess or whatever his title is now would have been able to pocket the proceeds. By agreeing to host the concerts, the biggest and best amateur organisation in the country benefits financially and the community around Croke Park benefits also. What most people don't realise is how much money Croke Park spend in the area immediately surrounding the stadium. They have a plan to spend €11 million doing up the area behind the Canal End, alongside plenty more ongoing spending, and it is only by hosting these type concerts that they can afford to do this. I certainly, as a GAA member, would not want a large % of proceeds from games being spent on doing up houses in the local area because there is plenty money needed in clubs throughout the country, but have no problem with a lot of the concert proceeds being spent in this way. That is why a lot of local residents are in favour of these concerts, as they see the benefits Croke Park bring to the area. The problem is no matter what you do there will be people who will try to cause trouble, and on this occasion these people seem to have been successful.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 09/07/2014 19:27:04    1616538

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I still think they will go ahead and I hope they do because I am losing the will to live, it is cringy.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8388 - 09/07/2014 19:33:44    1616542

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Hillman have you something against line dancing or did you not get a ticket, do the calculations if all 5 go ahead and each person spends on average 100 euro that's 40 million at least but like you said the Yanks coming in and the European fans will probably bring their own sandwiches with them......good point

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 899 - 09/07/2014 19:38:38    1616545

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Just the other night,
at a Wicklow football game,

(Chorus)

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2929 - 09/07/2014 19:48:46    1616547

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09/07/2014 14:21:42
hill16no1man
Offside_Rule so 400 thousand people dont get to see a concert
there is roughly the same figure 400 thousand people unemployed in this country
yet there is not half the fuss made
the economy would be far better off if that was fixed
That is completely off topic and not related to this discussion
09/07/2014 14:26:37
hill16no1man
moylagh the fault of this lies solely on brookes himself
it has come out today the reason why he said 5 or none
nothing whatsoever got to do with supporters
more the fact that when they sold 5 nights
they upscaled their whole set and he claims 3 nights wouldnt make him the money
it isn't just brooks fault at all. Its his, croke park management, gaa, and residents who couldn't make compromise or make decision fair to all


09/07/2014 14:29:46
hill16no1man
ormondbannerman that money is hypotetichal it doesnt exist
its like saying if my horse wins i will have x amount but he has to actualy run first
buisnesses didnt lose money because it would only be money they might have made
where as if the people who both the tickets werent getting there money back for it
now they would have lost money
nonsense and that money isn't hypothetical at all. It does certainly exist.
Businesses have lost money as a result. added stock In prep for concerts etc..

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/07/2014 20:26:13    1616560

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09/07/2014 16:07:07
brendtheredhand
The thing is, most major events are vastly oversubscribed, demand will always heavily outweigh supply but you don't see Glastonbury putting on another three days just so nobody's disappointed. The GAA misjudged the mood of the residents, rode roughshod over them and now they pay the pied piper I'm afraid.
wrong analogy there brend to be fair. Glastonbury isn't fair or right comparison to 1 day concerts by Garth Brooks....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/07/2014 20:27:35    1616561

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Keep them coming Snuf. You are bang on in what you are saying and a very welcome antidote to the shrill hysteria that is currently engulfing the country.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 09/07/2014 20:39:07    1616565

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Ormond, Dublin will lose money. However a lot of the money that would have been spent in Dublin will be spent around the country in the places of residence of the ticket holders. Very little of the money projected to have been spent by ticket holders living in the country will be spent outside the country. So how then can it be deemed to be revenue lost to the country ? Overseas visitors may not now come. That certainly is projected revenue lost but I doubt it would remotely approach the fifty million euro people are saying will be lost.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 09/07/2014 20:44:43    1616567

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Low lie the Field of Croke Park
Where once we watched U2 in the Dark
Our love was on the wing
Whilst we listened to Bono sing
Now it's so lonely round the Field of Croke Park

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 09/07/2014 20:50:39    1616570

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Two words - Get Metallica!!!!! :)

Adler (Monaghan) - Posts: 754 - 09/07/2014 20:59:12    1616575

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Keep them coming Snuf. You are bang on in what you are saying and a very welcome antidote to the shrill hysteria that is currently engulfing the country.
Greengrass
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Yes indeed Greengrass, but watch as 'trivial people' with their 'trivial faux outrage' try and make a 'worlds most important news' headline out of this mere pimple on the surface of internation opinion!!!!

Brazils humiliating defeat is thousands of times over a bigger story and the world has moved on and forgotten about it already!!

'Trivial people' with 'trivial faux outrage'!!!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 09/07/2014 21:08:58    1616579

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The biggest fiasco is that this toss is still being bantered about all over social media, it pales in comparison to most scoops but there is something about the poeple of this country, a lot of them seem to disregard perspective. We don't have to go that far back to know what I'm talking about, Saipan or Thierry Henry ring a bell?? My God, that became very nauseous indeed!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8753 - 09/07/2014 21:36:00    1616592

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Very ell said Snuf. Watch too as those who are uncomfortable with their country of origin talk about us being a "backward country". There is nothing backward about confronting the arrogance of big business.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 09/07/2014 21:37:47    1616594

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realdub
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1616592
The biggest fiasco is that this toss is still being bantered about all over social media, it pales in comparison to most scoops but there is something about the poeple of this country, a lot of them seem to disregard perspective. We don't have to go that far back to know what I'm talking about, Saipan or Thierry Henry ring a bell?? My God, that became very nauseous indeed!


Ba ha as you post about it on an internet forum..the ironing is delicious! ;)

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 09/07/2014 21:58:35    1616608

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Seconds away round 7.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 10/07/2014 08:02:00    1616613

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The 5 will go ahead. Perhaps staggered but they will go ahead

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2014 09:41:14    1616644

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Has the mass hysteria hit the stage where we're equating a concert being cancelled with losing a job/long-term unemployment?

Seemingly so MarlonJD - if someone makes a ridiculous comparison then it deserves an equally ridiculous counter arguement - and on that note,

Hill6 - not strictly true that those 400,000 unemployed wouldn't get one cent (compared to the people who had their tickets refunded). They would still be entitled to between 10,000 and 18,800 cents per week in Job Seekers from the Government.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 10/07/2014 09:42:09    1616646

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realdub
County: Dublin
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1616592 The biggest fiasco is that this toss is still being bantered about all over social media, it pales in comparison to most scoops but there is something about the poeple of this country, a lot of them seem to disregard perspective. We don't have to go that far back to know what I'm talking about, Saipan or Thierry Henry ring a bell?? My God, that became very nauseous indeed!
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Thats bad enough RD, but when all the main media outlets in Ireland are running with this as their top story for days on end AND the elected leader of the country personally involves himself in the issue then perspective has well and truly gone out the window, here lies the real tragedy and national embarrasment.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 10/07/2014 10:04:45    1616653

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Last night I finally heard some 'fellow learned people' speak about this issue on the Vincent Browne show. They did not mention the words economy, enjoyment, hotels, etc. What they did mention were terms like "the rule of law", "democratic right", "fair and reasonable", "honouring agreements" etc!!
In essence, I found on the Vincent Browne show 'fellow learned people' who understand the real roots and fundamental principles of this issue, just as I have been pointing out, instead of the 'but what about the economy' and 'we will be an international laughing stock' trivial merchants I have found on this board!
'Learned people' recognise what this is all about......'Trivial people' speak about the economy!!!

The fundamentals of 'LAW' and 'DEMOCRACY' do not pander to or even recognise words like 'economy'!!!!......Dont you people get that?

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 10/07/2014 10:13:27    1616656

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