Of course a defender has a right to put his hand in towards a forward's chest or stomach if thats where the ball is. That does not give the forward the right to grab the defender's arm and drag him to the ground.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 18/06/2014 10:49:43    1605415

Seansy48
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3

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Sean Cavanagh and Tyrone have become the biggest lightning rod for discussion in Ireland. Some of you people really do disgust me, anything he or the team does is wrong and seems to undermine the beauty of the game. It's been a 3-4 year process. The length it took for a keeper to take a free only became an issue when Morgan started doing it

Have you been away the last couple of years?

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 18/06/2014 11:16:09    1605431

I really think Tyrone need a fresh start

Time for Mickey to go...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 18/06/2014 11:58:23    1605457

the 'analysis' on the sunday game is non existant. they used the same clip (moane catching cavanagh high) to show him diving and then again to show a bad tackle.
Pictures clearly show the defender wrapping his left arm around cavanaghs waist with his right arm over his shoulder. thats a foul in any sport bar rugby. ignored in the analysis.

The penalty was more of a dive than any of the other discussion points.

The other major issue is that every 2 mins in commentary they refer to each foul with 'oh that was cynical' or 'was that deliberate' and question a black card!
There are 5 black card offences and only 5. people paid to discuss the sport should know that.

speedy12 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 592 - 18/06/2014 14:11:54    1605557

Of course a defender has a right to put his hand in towards a forward's chest or stomach if thats where the ball is. That does not give the forward the right to grab the defender's arm and drag him to the ground.

The easiest way to stamp this out is to issue a black card for the offenders.

ExiledinDublin (Mayo) - Posts: 131 - 18/06/2014 14:27:17    1605572

I think it is a black card offence Exiled, as it is 'deliberately pulling an opponent to the ground'. The problem is that divers tend to be very convincing, and despite an obvious example on Sunday you still have people in here defending the perpetrator.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 18/06/2014 14:47:46    1605592

benjyyy
County: Donegal
Posts: 1016

1603836 If anything the black card encourages it...

Who would issuing a black card to the offender possibly encourage it? If the defender is penalised it is not clear cut that a deliberate pull down occured but when the person in possession catches his opponents arm and pulls him to the ground there can be not doubt but that it was deliberate.

ExiledinDublin (Mayo) - Posts: 131 - 18/06/2014 16:25:29    1605643