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Both teams should be thrown out of the championship. Imagine if this farce had been televised?

And some people think that fighting during the parade proves that GAA players are not "fairies! FFS, grow up.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 08/06/2014 21:31:18    1600210

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It was clearly planned by Armagh to start and row and hopefully injure the guy who scored nine points against them last year. If it had been jamie clarke in a sling i wonder what all u armaghs boys would be saying. this is a hollow victory for Armagh, i hope tyrone/monaghan knock seven shades of #!'/ out of you!
Jp91 ru Arsene Wenger in disguise? u didnt c any Armagh boys do anything wrong??? Call a spade a spade

rising1916 (Cavan) - Posts: 187 - 08/06/2014 21:35:45    1600216

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I don't endorse fighting or boxing but am genuinely looking forward to TSG to see this row. How many on here giving out will admit the same?

Again it's not a spectacle I encourage but at the same time, it is a spectacle and everyone privately enjoys when fisticuffs like this breaks loose. Not too many care to admit it.

Also generates a lot of controversy and talking points which I enjoy too. You only have to look on here to see how divided opinion is. Who started it? Who were the main culprits? What action will be taken? Questions everyone will debate and disagree on.

Former_Poster (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 08/06/2014 21:50:14    1600231

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Very poor behaviour. There is a problem in the GAA that this kind of "tactic" is allowed and the team doing it is not punished but rather they benefit.

I remember for example Tadgh Kennelly taking out Nicholas Murphy before a match had started or likewise Meath against Tyrone in 1996. People talk about "cynical" tackles but this is a damn sight worse as the player could be out for ages and maybe off work etc. This is what the GAA should be stamping out.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 08/06/2014 21:50:31    1600233

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It didn't look good on the news . look I'm not been holier than thou. I've seen this sort of thing during matches . and while it's not desired at any time . there was kids marching. That's what sickens me.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/06/2014 21:51:04    1600234

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Serious amount of softies posting here.. Nothing wrong with a bit of an aul dust up! Happening forever!

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 08/06/2014 21:52:23    1600235

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hurlingdub
County: Dublin


Both teams should be thrown out of the championship. Imagine if this farce had been televised?

And some people think that fighting during the parade proves that GAA players are not "fairies! FFS, grow up.






Coming from a man who brags about the so-called '12 apostles'!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 08/06/2014 21:52:35    1600237

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Cant believe that Cavan fell for that why didnt the Cavan captain just ask the flag bearers to switch positions. Armagh had them beat after that just like Roy Keane had Vieria beat in the tunnel before that united arsenal game.

muckla (UK) - Posts: 370 - 08/06/2014 21:54:57    1600246

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Ned_Stormcrow
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"You all need to ask why did Armagh line up in CAVAN'S space?"

I think it is fairly obvious why Armagh lined up in Cavans space. To wind them up and disrupt them and generally throw Cavan off their game. And it worked to a T. Bigger fools Cavan for falling for it. In the same way that in the England-Ireland rugby match a few years back, Martin Johnson stood his players where the Ireland players should have been. You have to mentally strong to win anything in sport, and if you can't cope with the opposition messing with your head, then you have no business playing with the big boys.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 08/06/2014 21:55:19    1600247

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When there are no cameras there to capture the
so-called 12 apostles vrawling it it is ok; it
becomes folklore, something to tell the grandchildren.
But in modern times, its all about the women and children;
it shouldnt happen, full stop, but some of the
mock outrage on here is unfounded!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 08/06/2014 21:59:53    1600255

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It was clearly planned by Armagh to start and row and hopefully injure the guy who scored nine points against them last year. If it had been jamie clarke in a sling i wonder what all u armaghs boys would be saying. this is a hollow victory for Armagh, i hope tyrone/monaghan knock seven shades of #!'/ out of you!
Jp91 ru Arsene Wenger in disguise? u didnt c any Armagh boys do anything wrong??? Call a spade a spade


Jamie Clarke was lying on the ground with players kicking him. Was this a ploy by the Cavan men to take out our main goalscoring threat?

There was nothing hollow about this defeat. Armagh rose to the occasion very well and deserved their victory. I expected Cavan to put up a sterner test but no doubt the next game will be a massive step up.

I never said Armagh players didn't anything wrong. But when your captain is shoved in the chest what do you expect to happen? I find it laughable that you manage to absolve all the Cavan players. Maybe when you calm down tomorrow you will review your viewpoint.

JP91 (Armagh) - Posts: 316 - 08/06/2014 22:02:41    1600260

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Exactly this.

I think it is fairly obvious why Armagh lined up in Cavans space. To wind them up and disrupt them and generally throw Cavan off their game. And it worked to a T. Bigger fools Cavan for falling for it. In the same way that in the England-Ireland rugby match a few years back, Martin Johnson stood his players where the Ireland players should have been. You have to mentally strong to win anything in sport, and if you can't cope with the opposition messing with your head, then you have no business playing with the big boys.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2575 - 09/06/2014 08:16:43    1600264

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So I sent kids to bed early and sat up late to watch this vicious row last nite and I was shocked... It was total handbags!! As Tomas said on tele, I'd be surprised if anyone gets suspended.

Traditionally the home team are at crowd side of the parade so band must have got that wrong, Armagh were well entitled to stand there. The physicality is started by the Cavan lads so they only have themselves to blame and instigated it.
You could see smaller lads from both teams not getting involved so I don't know why dunne was anywhere near it.. Also interesting to hear that he has a HAND injury.. Interesting to hear how he picked that up.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 09/06/2014 08:37:00    1600270

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I wonder what Sky would have made of it.....

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 09/06/2014 08:53:44    1600281

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Ned_Stormcrow
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"You all need to ask why did Armagh line up in CAVAN'S space?"

Because it worked for them before Ned. They did exactly the same against Monaghan in 2004 (after being caught cold in 2003). McGeeney lined up on the wrong side for the parade in Clones. And just like Cavan yesterday, Monaghan took the bait and started a row they couldn't finish. It set the tone for the day and a hammering ensued. Deja Vu...

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1209 - 09/06/2014 09:04:57    1600293

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The PC police are out in force as predicted. Gaelic football is generally tedious to watch so a brawl is a welcome distraction. No one died and the show went on so I don't see any problem with it. People in this country nowadays love nothing more than being outraged so I am sure this topic will be forgotten soon and next week they will be outraged over something else.

hurlinortoggin (Tipperary) - Posts: 30 - 09/06/2014 09:14:29    1600301

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So the Orangemen go somewhere they shouldn't have went to march and there is something about flegs - just a normal summer. Seriously though, some sensationalists on here when you actually see the footage. Lot of handbags and nothing else, move on.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 09/06/2014 09:24:30    1600308

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Have not seen it yet so can't comment. Have the Sunday Game recorded, did they show the brawl last night?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11581 - 09/06/2014 09:28:17    1600312

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A couple of things need pointed here.

Armagh were standing in the right place. They had been designated to stand on the outside. The flag bearers were standing in the wrong place.

It was Cavan who instigated the thing by coming over and go right for the Armagh players. Did Cavan need to come over and do this? If the flag bearers were told to move, they would have. But Cavan were the ones who made the big deal of it and reacted by automatically kicking and punching when they came over.

This puts to bed any notion that Martin Dunne was targeted. He and the rest of the team have no else to blame but themselves for him getting injured.

And it's rich to hear Cavan fans say that Dunne was targeted, when three of their players went straight for Jamie Clarke, pull him to the side, two of them proceeded to punch him on the ground.

So lets get a few things straight before making accusations and fans from other counties jumping on board with it.

PatrickArmagh (Down) - Posts: 42 - 09/06/2014 09:51:07    1600336

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Shocking scenes to be fair. Grimley trying to make light of it.

Anyone scene the young chap from the marching band nearly getting flattened?

Well done Armagh. Quite obvious what they were at.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 09/06/2014 09:54:03    1600338

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