The Gate Keeper

People forget how magical a player Joseph was
http://youtu.be/MoAdjKvP4Po?t=1m21s

Yes Anthony Tohill was a formidable presence. I would paint Joseph in the same light as Mr Mulligan, a character that every county needs but was an inferior football when compared to someone like Peter Canavan.

4KHDoneill (Derry) - Posts: 182 - 22/05/2014 16:03:54    1591957

bumpernut

Try hitting the mute button then when he speaks!

No good, Brolly is that bloody dull and boring that the mute button doesn't even work when he's speaking!

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 22/05/2014 16:04:27    1591958

I think posters are losing the run of themselves here with all the PC and Anti Sexism stuff...
Some are taking it way too seriously imo. Time to chill.
I am sure Joe meant no offence to anyone. Just Joe being Joe for the publicity, and by God is he getting plenty of publicity..

RTE are gonna be left in the half-penny place anyway when the Sky coverage gets going...
GAA coverage needs freshening up and I think SKY could be a breath of fresh air.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4241 - 22/05/2014 16:13:13    1591964

This Sky thing was always going to be a controversial issue from the word go, and this thing about what Joe said is being blown up out of all proportions.
All he was doing was making a comparision, as in, - -

The beach babe, he was referring to was possibly Pamela Anderson, although there were others, was a life guard on some beach or other in a TV series.
Ms Wyse is a sports presenter for sky TV that will be televising and reporting on some gaa games.

So technically speaking he got it wrong as they both do totally different jobs, albeit on tv.
Talking about Political correctness/incorrectness it's gone mad.

A Wyse man said to me one time, he would prefer to be "correct/incorrect" than be "Politically/Incorrect.

- - - Carry on Joe, regardless.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3179 - 22/05/2014 16:23:29    1591968

I am sure Joe meant no offence to anyone. Just Joe being Joe for the publicity, and by God is he getting plenty of publicity..

Thats the statement right there that gives carte blanche to the likes of Brolly to be able to continue generally winding up and throwing personal insults under the guise of "just a bit of craic"! Whether he meant it or not, he put it out there on a social media forum used by millions, the inference was clear as far as I was concerned, this girl has simply got the gig as a result of her looks. If he wanted to attack Sky then attack Sky, if he wanted to attack Sean Cavanagh the footballer then do so and not attack Sean Cavanagh the man. He crosses the line time and time again and people just waive it away with a shrug and a "sure thats just Joe" and "sure didn't he apologise afterwards", too late afterwards, its like I said, already out there, be it on Twitter or Youtube, and once its there it cannot be retracted.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/05/2014 16:35:30    1591975

royaldunne
County: Meath
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As a father of daughters. I find his comments not only distasteful but disgusting. In my opinion Rachel is ten times the pundit that he is, women have to put up with this **** in every aspect of their work. Now brolly obviously suffers from SMALL man syndrome, and really is only desperately trying to keep his job, that hopefully rte will limit from now on. If anything it proves that the gaa were right to sign up with sky, with guys like this on our great free (€160) to air gaa station.

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Ah for the love of God. It's time that the Charlie Churches and Ivana Baciks gave it a rest. All he was saying is that Sky were trying to make their coverage sexy. Look that's a compliment to Wyse and in the context of her show, and profile, you couldn't buy this kind of publicity. You can't open your mouth these days without somebody crying racism, sexism or sectarianism. Brolly called it as he saw it and I'm sure as most people see it but are afraid to say so. He has apologised, probably unnecessarily, so people need to move on.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4743 - 22/05/2014 17:43:10    1592021

Nicely put, Tearintom. No one had a problem with Peter Canavan, Paul Early, Jamsie O'Connor or Nicky English as analysts it was just the whole "Ryanair" feel to the coverage & presentation.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 22/05/2014 17:49:20    1592031

Outside of the rights or wrongs of what Brolly said, people are missing out on the bigger picture. That is to bring Baywatch back to the minds of Irish lads everywhere. Baywatch, what a show!!

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 22/05/2014 17:51:22    1592036

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
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1591975 I am sure Joe meant no offence to anyone. Just Joe being Joe for the publicity, and by God is he getting plenty of publicity..

Thats the statement right there that gives carte blanche to the likes of Brolly to be able to continue generally winding up and throwing personal insults under the guise of "just a bit of craic"! Whether he meant it or not, he put it out there on a social media forum used by millions, the inference was clear as far as I was concerned, this girl has simply got the gig as a result of her looks. If he wanted to attack Sky then attack Sky, if he wanted to attack Sean Cavanagh the footballer then do so and not attack Sean Cavanagh the man. He crosses the line time and time again and people just waive it away with a shrug and a "sure thats just Joe" and "sure didn't he apologise afterwards", too late afterwards, its like I said, already out there, be it on Twitter or Youtube, and once its there it cannot be retracted.


Totally agree.

I work with women in sport and this bull**** is what they put up with all the time. It's disgusting and he should lose the RTE gig over it. It's hard enough encouraging young women to take an interest in sport and participate, without a v high profile sports pundit objectifying them like this. It's the same state of mind that lost Andy Gray his job.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2574 - 22/05/2014 18:17:13    1592054

Christ this is becoming a bit like 'Saipan' again;
there is the 'for' and 'against' Brolly brigade!
I'd say he's lovin it!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 22/05/2014 18:22:22    1592059

Intelligent man like Brolly should know there is other ways to attract the attention he craves than acting like a 12 year old.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3610 - 22/05/2014 18:51:40    1592070

mike03 22/05/2014 17:51:22
Outside of the rights or wrongs of what Brolly said, people are missing out on the bigger picture. That is to bring Baywatch back to the minds of Irish lads everywhere. Baywatch, what a show!!

Agreed..What a show!! I remember going to mass on Saturday evenings back in the day thinking.. Will ya hurry up father til we all get home and watch some baywatch!! They still do reruns on sky, up around channel 180. Men and movies or something

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 523 - 22/05/2014 18:53:11    1592071

Damothedub
County: Dublin
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1591801 22/05/2014 12:09:42
keeper7
County: Longford
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"no one does expensive wrapping paper like sky"

Isn't that one of the main reasons why the EPL is so annoyingly popular here? Could that also work for Gaelic games? We all agree that the GAA is almost devoid of any marketing nous, then half of us object when they try something different or progressive!

Youve missed the point completely , raised originally by Hill , its TV3 but in a fancy dress , now before the dress went on the PRODUCT was deemed weak , but the wrapping paper or dress suddenly makes it quality , might work for some not myself .

Ah but Damo maybe it was the Manager that was deemed weak, who knows the players might get a new lease of life with more freedom under a new manager who knows ;)





manager .

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 22/05/2014 20:34:57    1592116

We'll see joe on sky yet, he's made for it and would up ship at the drop of a hat.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 261 - 22/05/2014 21:16:19    1592134

Reading some of the stuff around here you'd think Sky was popular, or even good its not (MO). It has SUBSCRIBERS willing to pay through the nose for dross, it doesn't need to be popular, just needs the shillings. Poor Joe, very right to question her credentials, but the wrong way to do it.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 22/05/2014 21:58:28    1592150

Is RTE really better than Sky? Given how sports broadcasting has been moving I think it's more a case of RTE being left behind. In general their commentary is dreadful for most sports and the production values are nothing in comparison to sky. Sky has more money and has got decent analysts and an actual presenter to present the coverage, the fact that its not Michael Lyster should have nothing to do with it. Sky had itself myred in a sexism controversy however I've seen very few women involved in any of Rtes coverage. Then sky put forward a female presenter and leave it to Joe to make a daft sexist comment nothing being said about having a rugby league player as a presenter too.

glantine.guard (Limerick) - Posts: 33 - 23/05/2014 12:23:17    1592287

The rugby league dude is only there because he knows how to use the fancy gadgets and gizmos

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/05/2014 19:09:50    1592568

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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1592568 The rugby league dude is only there because he knows how to use the fancy gadgets and gizmos

Hill your priceless :)

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 23/05/2014 20:44:29    1592604

Athcliath thanks Haha
But being honest they basically stated that the other day as they said he's well used to using the equipment already as he uses them presenting rugby league for sky and they didn't want a situation where the analyst was focusing too much on equipment and not giving his opinion

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/05/2014 20:58:00    1592610

Rachel put him back in his box there today he must feel about 2 foot talk at this stage then again it's how brolly we are talking about here.

duke_raul (Tyrone) - Posts: 993 - 24/05/2014 14:14:43    1592739