artisan
County: Down
Posts: 1465

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IrishNews on Cavanagh "exploited every ounce of his considerable football acumen when he engineered the free kick which earned Tyrone a draw".
What a noble way to describe a dive ! Give me Joe Brolly's straight talking all day long over this contrived journalistic BS.




It seems anything 'the man' does this year will be
scrutinized and falsified by those that don't like
him! Everybody (Madden included) is entitled to their
opinion!
'The man' won his free fairly as the replay clearly
shows.
Maybe you should taake a look closer to home; at some
of the antics of yer own county!
Plainly put, it was most un-aristocratic behaviour
from Ulster's royalty! LOL ;)

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 19/05/2014 13:07:55    1589955

Cacmcskilly we should have won but we didnt throw it away.
We were the better team but at two points up we werent
safe.look at the first Tyrone goal from a high ball that
could have happened again.

But I hope justice is done in Newry and Down progress but
they deserved to go through and deep down the Tyrone people
know that.no offence.Tyrone never at one stage at the match
cut through the Down defence as Down did to the Tyrone defence
in that twenty minute spell.The football was a joy to behold.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 19/05/2014 13:09:25    1589956

Soft free , engineered free , call it what you like , these things will always happen in football . Swings and roundabouts . Fact of the matter was Tyrone were pressing for the final 3 minutes after being handed a way back into the game by Down and it's the gauntlet they ran . If that free by Down had been landed (I don't like criticising a player but it was a horrific miss), Tyrone , in my opinion , would not have scored again . They would have had to chase a goal and would have been relying on luck , probably lumping the ball into the forwards with plenty of Down men back . That miss put a bit of a spring back into their step and they showed a bit of composure to get the two points needed . Down have probably missed the boat but you never know with them .

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 19/05/2014 13:11:46    1589957

The Ulster Senior Football Championship bloody hell!!

Can the nerves survive another match like that next
week??It was a rollercoaster of emotions.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 19/05/2014 13:12:35    1589959

No recriminations for O'Hare for missing that free.It was from
a slight angle and a pressure kick.

He showed the guts to score a goal straight after the second
Tyrone goal that was crucial for Down at that stage.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 19/05/2014 13:16:27    1589965

Aye but Zinny - the point is not about a ref getting a decision wrong as no one is perfect, it's the fact that there have consistently been wrong decisions made from this new rule came in to place. It's the fact that before the introduction of the new rules we seen inconsistent refereeing not only from week to week/game to game but within the one game. Now you add further confusion in to the mix we have and will continue to have decisions like the ones yesterday being debated as there will more than likely be more 'brain freeze' moments or as they say in the Scottish soccer scene, honest mistakes.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/05/2014 13:18:06    1589968

is replay live on tv.we missed a great replay between these sides in 08 and it would be distastrous to miss it

toe2hand (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 19/05/2014 13:20:36    1589970

Immense second half performance from Benny Coulter yesterday.
Legend!!He was clearly half fit but really helped the team win
break ball.

The two Johnstons also had a great impact.Well done James
McCartan.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 19/05/2014 13:29:09    1589979

The point is Offside that no matter what decision a referee gives there will be posters on here saying it was the wrong one, the standard of refereeing is awful, there is no consistency etc etc. I am certain that Coldrick refereed the game honestly yesterday, he made some poor decisions but so did many of the players. I would say the biggest error yesterday was the 21 yard free, most U-12's would fancy scoring that, yet it is always the referee who gets the greatest amount of stick. We should be thankful that these men give up so much of their free time to referee, and I would suggest that while not a perfect referee, Coldrick is still one of the best in the country.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 19/05/2014 13:30:33    1589981

REDANDBLACK30
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But for a 20 min purple patch in the second half Tyrone were in complete control of that game, the only unfortunate thing was that it wasn't reflected on the score board. How you have come to the conclusion that Down were the better side is beyond funny. Enjoy the replay, a home game must be a bit of a novelty in the mourne county, Tyrone to win.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 19/05/2014 13:30:40    1589982

The whole second half Down was the better team.Tyrone
did not hit the heights Down did in that match.U better
hope Down dont play for two halves next week Brend
or its curtains from Tyrone.

That twenty minute spell u refer to highlighted the brilliance
Down can reach that this declining Tyrone team cant.Its just
that we also have bad halves like the first half.So its matters
not what tyrone do. If Down play like we can we win,if we dont
play like the first half we lose.Simple as that.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 19/05/2014 13:38:56    1589995

The monaghan people will be delighted with yesterdays result
and good luck to them.They know Down and Tyrone will have
another tough match before they play them no matter who wins
it will take a lot out of them before that match.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 19/05/2014 13:46:13    1590011

No recriminations for O'Hare for missing that free.It was from
a slight angle and a pressure kick.

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Slight angle me backside...

He Bottled it.

Simple as.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 19/05/2014 13:51:15    1590025

As i said, Neither team deserved to win.

Tyrone lost concentration at 7 up

And Down during the 4 minutes of injury time at the end gave away two very cynical free kicks.

Would have been a travesty had either team emerged from that victorious.

That said, Tyrone will win the replay.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 19/05/2014 13:53:16    1590030

The question that I am asking myself is what shape would Tyrone football be in if they lost S Cavanagh through whatever way s.g injury or retirement.

muckla (UK) - Posts: 366 - 19/05/2014 13:57:48    1590039

I am not for one moment questioning his integrity Soma. It does however highlight an issue within the GAA which those who run should maybe look to address rather than glossing over and maybe hold them to account, like they do in other sports.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/05/2014 14:07:31    1590061

Wayno Coldrick decided on a draw with that last free.He could
have let that go.There was very little in it.It is described
in The Irish News today as "soft-ish".But it was given.I dont
think Rooney would thought a free as soft as that would be given
in the last minute when the game was in the melting pot so he
felt he could stop Cavanagh's run.But it was given and its a replay.

I would have taken a draw before the start-Down are a very tough
nut to crack in Newry so Im positive-but not complacent about
the replay.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 19/05/2014 14:10:19    1590067

19/05/2014 13:46:13
REDANDBLACK30
County: Down
Posts: 442

The monaghan people will be delighted with yesterdays result
and good luck to them.They know Down and Tyrone will have
another tough match before they play them no matter who wins
it will take a lot out of them before that match.

I was confident of our chances watching it, but after finishing a draw that means our opponents will have two tough championship games under their belt by the end of may, while we will be coming in cold after a long wait. Another competitive game is always helpful, and the winners still have 3 weeks to rest so I wouldn't think a lot will be took out of them. Not sure what to think now, Saturday night will be interesting anyway.

patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 19/05/2014 14:14:45    1590075

Fair enough Pat K but if the match goes to extra time next week
like the last Newry replay in 2008 that Down won by a point it
will take so much out of them.

I take your point though on the fact that its good to get
Championship intensity matches under your belt.Suppose that
there is also a momentum factor and three weeks recovery period.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 19/05/2014 14:21:04    1590084

How do you hold the referee to account though Offside? You could refuse to give him any further games this year to referee in the championship, but if we accept that he is one of the best in the country, which I think he is, then the referee you replace him with is inevitably worse. Unless you believe there are better referees out there refereeing club games who don't make mistakes and whose decisions are consistent with all other top class referees? I don't think these men exist I am afraid, largely because the abuse that referees get for making honest mistakes is completely disproportionate and discourages many gaels from taking up the job. It is a tactic used by many managers these days to detract from criticism of their own team and their own decisions to blame the referee - the soft target. Even Tyrone fans are saying that Mickey Harte, who many believe to be the best manager in the country, made many bad decisions yesterday. Coldrick will be disappointed with some of his decisions and hope to go better the next day, the same as many of the players. Players, managers and supporters should concentrate on improving what they can improve, which is the standard of football and referees in their own county.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 19/05/2014 14:24:07    1590090