Wondering if many here have the British tv stations BBC , Sky etc ? Only rte in my house since a child, never felt the need to get the English ones.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4677 - 25/04/2014 17:53:48    1580030

Everyone else you were debating with was referring to it as soccer. That's why I thought it was odd. GAA people generally refer to it as soccer to differentiate it from Gaelic football. This happens in many other countries outside of Britain. No harm done, though. Carry on.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/04/2014 17:58:39    1580033

just watched tv3 5.30 news
3 days before national league final and no GAA news in the sport section at all
the only mention to he match was by martin king in the weather

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 18:06:53    1580038

Marlon_JD

So, while a publicly funded national broadcaster needs to indulge us in what we want, it also has to have an eye on what we need. Our license fee should pay for more than the lowest common denominator.

Yep again I agree 100%, I don't remember RTE in the 80s though, I was born in the late 80s so that rules me out but I wouldn't have guessed that they were more adventurous then, that is strange but there you go. Regarding soaps well I have to say if they were the only thing left on tele I'd gladly never watch tele again, I can't stand them, utter tripe..........well except for the odd episode of Home and Away of course :-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 25/04/2014 18:12:51    1580040

keeper7

By gum you're right they were all calling it soccer, but anyway I don't mind the term soccer at all to be honest I just call it football.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 25/04/2014 18:16:02    1580041

ormandbannerman
Its not a well made point. Regional newspapers tend to be once/twice weekly and ive never said national news should not cover national news. You seem to think that national news shouldn't cover international news especially relating to some sporting events.
News broadcasts cover what they feel is what is wanted by the public.

no I have never stated they should not show international news point that out to where I posted that please
I stated the national news should show national news first and foremost
tv3 news there less then 3 days before the national league final
which will more then likely be the biggest event taking place in ireland this weekend
had no mention of gaa at all
this is a national news bulletin how do you defend this?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 18:16:10    1580042

there is not Dublin jerseys in every household. don't be so naïve. Yes its part of an identity and many who don't play/watch much gaa have a Dublin jersey but don't think its so widespread to have one/

spoken by the man who lives in clare or tipp
who informed you of this nenaghs scrum halfs brother who was on the cencus committee?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 18:17:49    1580044

Htaem
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hill

You're right, football is over exposed in this country, or marketed far better would be the way to say it, the Gaa doesn't do marketing very well and that is certainly a reason why people in general talk more about football. But regarding the jerseys, I can only tell you what I've seen and it's not just Dublin, across the country you'll generally always see more PL jerseys than Gaa jerseys, that's not always the case of course but in general over time and I'm speaking from experience here, that's what you will see.

I agree 100% the marketing by the gaa is almost non existent
but I cannot agree that in this day and age more soccer jerseys then dublin jerseys around
just look at the sales before christmas of the new jerseys
they were completly sold out almost immediately

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 18:20:21    1580045

Htaem
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hill16no1man

amazing how you will watch spanish and asian
but complained about tg4 showing the matches in irish haha

Ah but here's the thing, Spanish football is presented on Sky in English and Asian films are subtitled in English, TG4 doesn't subtitle me Gaa!!!

haha but you all but implied you would have no problem learning to watch them
surely theres a way to get subtitles on tg4 is there not haha?
never needed it myself and anyway you dont need to see with your ears when watching tg4 haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 18:22:36    1580049

Htaem
County: Meath
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Marlon_JD

So, while a publicly funded national broadcaster needs to indulge us in what we want, it also has to have an eye on what we need. Our license fee should pay for more than the lowest common denominator.

Yep again I agree 100%, I don't remember RTE in the 80s though, I was born in the late 80s so that rules me out but I wouldn't have guessed that they were more adventurous then, that is strange but there you go. Regarding soaps well I have to say if they were the only thing left on tele I'd gladly never watch tele again, I can't stand them, utter tripe..........well except for the odd episode of Home and Away of course :-)

haha now your coming around a good aussie soap
well htaem I never
not an anglesh accent in site haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 18:25:44    1580050

hill

haha now your coming around a good aussie soap
well htaem I never
not an anglesh accent in site haha

Ah Home and Away is top quality, nevermind the accents there's plenty of other reasons to watch H&A, haha ;-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 25/04/2014 18:40:26    1580055

haha yeah but charlie is gone disgraceful
the only copper I ever liked haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 18:51:19    1580058

I used to watch Neighbours when Mrs Mengle held sway.

Memories memories!!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 25/04/2014 18:57:34    1580059

ormondbannerman
County: Clare

25/04/2014 16:25:25 Marlon_JD
True, but hasn't the time to drop the obsession passed too? I mean, there are other cultures, sports, media's out there, do we have to be open to just one. For instance, when people complain about the over exposure of British culture, English soccer etc in Ireland, they're told to move on, stop being narrow-minded, stop being insular, and move on from the past. And deservedly so in some cases. But if someone suggest 'why don't we mix things up, have more exposure to Bundesliga, Spanish football etc, and not just EPL?', as someone did above, they get told 'because of our shared past with Britain'. So much for moving on. If someone suggests 'why don't we have a wider representation of European media in Ireland, more French and Spanish movies on or TV etc', they get told 'oh the language barrier, sure we're an English speaking country'. So much for not being insular. The rest of Europe cross pollinates their media, using sub-titles, dubbing, or in some cases, just improving their language skills. We can't? We can, but we won't, because the people who bang on about being insular the most (and I'm not necessarily referring to anyone here), seem to just want to replace one type of insularity with another. So if people want to move on from the past, and want other people to do the same, then great. But taking an a la carte approach to what we should move on from is not the best way to do it. Why should the time for the obsession with English soccer have passed? Yes there is other cultures, sports and we are not open to just one. Irish culture is most affected by british/English culture do to simple history/georgraphy. Its the truh though. People wont change in mass to Spanish/german leagues do to language issues in part of travel etc. Ease of access to Britain over spain, Germany
We don't have much more European media etc do to language barriers. we can but we choose not to as its more difficult/expensive.

I wasn't talking about an obsession with English soccer. But in general, you've just provided a perfect example of the neo-insularity I was talking about. Thanks?

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 25/04/2014 19:22:42    1580062

hill16no1man
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just watched tv3 5.30 news
3 days before national league final and no GAA news in the sport section at all
the only mention to he match was by martin king in the weather

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Fair play to Martin. Have seen him at a couple of Dubs games and he always gives a shout out to the Bohs as well. A genuine supporter of local sport I would say.

Anyway, back on topic and how in God's name the Moyes story could made the top headline ahead of stories that include....

- the Ukraine crisis and the WW III story
- updates on one of the worst ferry disasters in decades
- updates on the worst airplane disasters in living memory
- update on the conditions of the greatest racing driver in history

...not withstanding...

- national interest issues such as the imminent collapse of government candidates in the up-and-coming local and European elections
- the water charge debacle
- the Shatter/Garda situation
.....and so on

Still this is Ireland. Since when did we ever treat matters of real global and national concern with seriousness. Isn't that what got us into the financial mess in the first place. Somebody else will deal with it!

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4749 - 25/04/2014 20:33:54    1580072

25/04/2014 17:18:13
hill16no1man
for every one person I know who went to england once or twice a year I know ten more who go to croker to see dublin nearly every time they play there. so if the irish news is ment to cater to demands of the public and not just news from ireland
shouldnt the meath chronicle have reports from dublins match against derry this weekend as im sure
a huge proportion of meath people will be tuned into their tv set to watch that match
should they not be catring for them people by your logic? You have(yet again) not read a post of mine properly or are incapable of understanding a somple point.
Irish news(national) not local caters to demands to public with coverage of soccer abroad again. There is no need for local papers which are weekly or in some cases twice weekly covering the premiership as they come out 3/4 days after games and the time has passed for reports on premiership games from a Saturday for a match report to only hit the shelves on a Wednesday.
Are you sure a huge proportion of meath people will be watching Dublin derry this weekend how can you so positively say that? What backs up that so many will?
25/04/2014 17:53:48
bad.monkey
Wondering if many here have the British tv stations BBC , Sky etc ? Only rte in my house since a child, never felt the need to get the English ones. don't there is many at all.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 25/04/2014 20:52:28    1580078

25/04/2014 18:06:53 hill16no1man
just watched tv3 5.30 news
3 days before national league final and no GAA news in the sport section at all
the only mention to he match was by martin king in the weather 2 days.... and the league finals will get plenty of coverage tomorrow and Sunday.
Their is a huge amount of live sport and very big games tomorrow that will get precedence over a game on Sunday

25/04/2014 18:16:10 hill16no1man
no I have never stated they should not show international news point that out to where I posted that please
I stated the national news should show national news first and foremost
tv3 news there less then 3 days before the national league final
which will more then likely be the biggest event taking place in ireland this weekend
had no mention of gaa at all
this is a national news bulletin how do you defend this? national news should show the biggest storys first. That doesn't mean irish stories first.
3 days is a large amount of time so they wont cover it as their is other events preceeding it that will take precedence and it will get coverage tomorrow/sunday

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 25/04/2014 20:58:42    1580080

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 7184

You have(yet again) not read a post of mine properly or are incapable of understanding a somple point.
Irish news(national) not local caters to demands to public with coverage of soccer abroad again. There is no need for local papers which are weekly or in some cases twice weekly covering the premiership as they come out 3/4 days after games and the time has passed for reports on premiership games from a Saturday for a match report to only hit the shelves on a Wednesday.
Are you sure a huge proportion of meath people will be watching Dublin derry this weekend how can you so positively say that? What backs up that so many will?

so you are running with the hare and hunting with the hound on this to suit your own story
its ok for local media to put local sport first
but you dont think national media should put national sport first
yet they are the same people they are catering for.
well for starters the half of meath is filled with a lot of dubs nowadays
ashbourne,ratoath and dunboyne have huge amount of dubs living there
then the fact that a lot of meath people in general will be watching the match as they have big interest in gaa

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 21:04:29    1580082

ormanbannerman

don't there is many at all.

you dont think many people have bbc and utv in ireland?
seriously your having a laugh sure it came in on the analog
and is on upc and sky digital packages now

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 21:06:40    1580084

ormondbannerman
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25/04/2014 18:06:53 hill16no1man
just watched tv3 5.30 news
3 days before national league final and no GAA news in the sport section at all
the only mention to he match was by martin king in the weather

2 days.... and the league finals will get plenty of coverage tomorrow and Sunday.
Their is a huge amount of live sport and very big games tomorrow that will get precedence over a game on Sunday

come off it will you mnster rugby are playing at an almost identical time on sunday too
yet they got coverage on that bulletin
liverpool v chelsea is also on sunday at similiar time and it got coverage

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/04/2014 21:09:24    1580085